donsig
Low level intermediary
BTW< this should not be a constitutional amendment. Make it a law or a standard but leave this out of the big book.
Constitutional Amendment: Free the Slaves
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Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
Why would we want a self-imposed handicap?
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
Yes, but a challenge that didnt need to be there is not fun to deal with. Diety vanilla is my thing, its not a real challenge for me, but I dont do anything to weaken myself in a game, its just not a good Idea.
Sarevok: the point isn't "Is this the best thing we can do on our path to victory?". This point is more role-playing. Some of the citizens (including me) see that we are treating our slaves badly. We think ofourselves as noble people, gentlemen, with high morals. We can't bear to watch this any longer. We have to treat them better.
Than we translate this to the ingame; pay for upkeep, don't sacrifice them, don't disband them etc.
If we'd want to play perfectly we'd never do this. But we don't want to play perfectly, we want fun and enjoyment. These things are the main reason we only chose Monarchy-level. That level allows us to do those things, for the greater good of our Nation.
Than we translate this to the ingame; pay for upkeep, don't sacrifice them, don't disband them etc.
If we'd want to play perfectly we'd never do this. But we don't want to play perfectly, we want fun and enjoyment. These things are the main reason we only chose Monarchy-level. That level allows us to do those things, for the greater good of our Nation.
Forgive me when I'm wrong, but English is not my native language.
Wouldn't it be grammatically correct to say "They think..., They can't ..., They have .." because it is only those "some of the citizens" and not "we all".
It does not at all conflict with my self-esteem to have foreign workers. We just need not call them slaves.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
indeed, I never have heard them called or myself though of them as slaves until you posted this up.
I'll second that.Originally posted by tao
It does not at all conflict with my self-esteem to have foreign workers. We just need not call them slaves.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Originally posted by tao
It does not at all conflict with my self-esteem to have foreign workers. We just need not call them slaves.
Or we can call them "Migrant Workers" (spelling?)
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
"Immigrant workers"
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
well... I suppose they just dont want pay...
donsig
Low level intermediary
So, are we so poor we cannot afford to pay all our workers? There is also the old adage of getting what you pay for. Those workers who do not get paid do not produce as much as those who do get paid. Can we not afford to pay them all and anjoy the benefits of increased productivity?
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
Originally posted by tao
Not at all. All workers work for free. The native ones just work another shift on payed overtime.
I like it tao!
Tell you what - if the foreign workers work the same overtime and double their productivity, then we'll pay them the same as our native workers.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
how would we do that in the game?
Why can't we take on extra workers who work half as much productivity for zero pay in addition to the ones who give full productivity for full pay? As for the foreign workers we already have, it's not like paying them (or rather their governments) will increase their productivity.
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
Quite - as they never will work quicker, we don't need to pay them more so carry on as we are!
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