Construction researched but no siege workshop

[zxcvbnm]

The problem is that if they don't have any other bombardment nor penalty/risk from fireballs then they'll use fire to bombard, which is not very elven. Treants bombarding along with some fire penalty would force the player to choose different strategies instead of burn-it-all.

 

[Randolph]

I'm not sure I follow why it's so "unelven" to use fire magic for war. Wood elves would certainly learn to appreciate and respect the distructive power of fire. Sure they wouldn't be pyros at home, but bombarding an enemy city with fireballs doesn't strike me as out of theme.

 

[zxcvbnm]

If an enemy city is in the middle of forest, then bombarding it with fireballs is quite unelven, because the explosion should ignite the forest by any common sense

 

[EvilBob22]

The Ljosalfar are based more on the Scottish Seelie Court rather than the high fantasy/Tolkien/D&D tree-hugger elves. They are more fit to air or even earth magic, but there is nothing out of character for them to use fire.

Edit: Scottish? Wait, I could be wrong about that, maybe Irish or something...

 

[zxcvbnm]

Celtic.
FoL worships nature in its all ways, and hurting sacred trees is a crime punishable by death.
It just feels strange that they don't use the force of nature itself when sieging but risk forest fires.

 

[Calavente]

but they have synergy with FoL.. making them more of a tree-hugger tolkien kind...

I have difficulties (but habits are coming) to think of alfars as tree hugggers... if they are, why are they alfars and not elves?

as I have read a book inspired on nordic alfars .., very different from tolkien/fantasy elves.

...ljosalfar and dokkalfar (svartalfars) ljos had power over inanimate/un-living matter. and svart over living matter (even dead corps that have still some living cells)...
in FfH lore that would make
svart would have power over : nature/mind/body/death (strength).
ljos would have power over : fire/earth/water/air/enchantment ..Etc.
most spiritual mana are not adressed but mind as you control the body of another..

wouldn't it be fun ??

sorry for the disgression...

 

[zxcvbnm]

They are not tree-huggers, they worship the nature in good and ill. The forces of nature are as much death as life but they don't want to tip the scales anyhow.

 

[onedreamer]

If an enemy city is in the middle of forest, then bombarding it with fireballs is quite unelven, because the explosion should ignite the forest by any common sense

a fireball is not a nuke, a fireball directed towards city walls have the same effected of ignited catapult projectiles and would hit city walls not any forest inside the city, assuming you can have a forest inside a (not elven) city.

 

[zxcvbnm]

If you are in a dense forest even hurling the fireball through it (either ground level between trees or high above going through the leaves) will have a risk of ignition
When it hits the walls to weaken them it must explode to have any effect and explosions have a notorious connnection of spreading fire to near flammable objects.

 

[onedreamer]

First off, in the traditional D&D fireballs don't hurl but simply explode where the mage wants. Second if you were inside a dense forest you wouldn't be able to target city walls at all. Third, city walls can be damaged by the sheer force of the impact of a projectile against the walls, no need of an explosion, but of course a fireball does explode. Ultimately though (fourth), no city wall of a non-elven city would be built at less than 50-100 meters from the forest, hence there couldn't be a significant amount of sparkling from the explosion of a mere fireball that would reach the forest and start a fire.

 

[zxcvbnm]

If they just explode somewhere how can they have a force of impact?

Second if you were inside a dense forest you wouldn't be able to target city walls at all. Third, city walls can be damaged by the sheer force of the impact of a projectile against the walls, no need of an explosion, but of course a fireball does explode. Ultimately though (fourth), no city wall of a non-elven city would be built at less than 50-100 meters from the forest, hence there couldn't be a significant amount of sparkling from the explosion of a mere fireball that would reach the forest and start a fire.

Now that's something I didn't take into account. But if a mage casts fireball in a forest, where does he go so he can aim? What about forest guardposts?