Crime Rates

[Panda]

As others have allready stated, the media over-emphazises crime.

Also to consider -

2000 years ago, a fixed chariot race in Rome caused a riot that was put down by the Praetorian guard. 10,000+ dead.

The last football riot put left some 30 people injured.

I think it's safer these days.

 

[EdwardTking]

Canada and New Zealand possibly...but your posts makes it sound like they ddint quite ship all the ingrates off the island...

Nah, I am still here!!

If you have a link on that I certainly would like to see it just as an bit of trivia for myself.

This is a little out of date:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

 

[salty mud]

As others have allready stated, the media over-emphazises crime.

Also to consider -

2000 years ago, a fixed chariot race in Rome caused a riot that was put down by the Praetorian guard. 10,000+ dead.

The last football riot put left some 30 people injured.

I think it's safer these days.

They were barbarians!

What I'm getting at is the gangs and yobs who attack and injure for no reason. *cough* *chavs* (Got to get some medicine for that cough) Also, they are very intimadating.

What gets me angry is the way they attack old ladies and gentlemen, or mug them and abuse them. Its sick

I am STILL disgusted at a story I heard a few years ago where a teenager killed or seriously injured a young boy and left his body in a burning tip. That is wrong, and he wants hanging who did it.

All hail, the return of Capitol Punishment!

 

[Sahkuhnder]

Yes, it is illegal to carry a protective weapon. It is also illegal to injure burglars. What type of horsehockey law is THAT?

That is the exact point I was trying to make. It is not illegal to carry a protective weapon if you are "trained how and when to use it and are mature enough for the responsibility" as soldiers, police and some types of private guards, both here and in the UK, are allowed guns for the protection of themselves and others.

I believe that having it illegal to injure a burglar that no longer poses a threat is fine, but also agree with you that any other burglar should be fair game.

EDIT - edited for clarity.

 

[sysyphus]

That is more to do with the fact that the leftwing softies here
foolishly abolished capital punishment and it is illegal for civilians
to carry fire arms so that the criminals will rob one with impunity,
and the government won't deport convicted foreign criminals who
feel free to swarm to Britain like flies to a piece of smelly chite.

Setting the UK aside, the last comparison I saw of crime rates was
that Canada and New Zealand were lower than USA and Australia.

You'll note that Canada and New Zealand are the biggest left-wing softies among the five countries in question here, and of the five only (parts of) the USA practises capital punishment.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

As others have allready stated, the media over-emphazises crime.

Also to consider -

2000 years ago, a fixed chariot race in Rome caused a riot that was put down by the Praetorian guard. 10,000+ dead.

The last football riot put left some 30 people injured.

I think it's safer these days.

Actually, it was only 1500 years ago, and it was in Constantinople.

 

[Tycoon101]

Actually, it was only 1500 years ago, and it was in Constantinople.

1206 AD methinks was when the Crusaders ransacked Constantinople. The Church replied accordingly and excommunicated the Crusaders.

Crime was much better punished years and years ago. Now we are too lenient. More jail time, and usage of the death penalty are what we need to happen more often.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

More jail time, and usage of the death penalty are what we need to happen more often.

Oh yes, this will really help... .
Do you think criminals are thinking "Well, if they catch me I'll get eight years but that's OK. If They'd give me ten years I would rethink my plan..."
No, they simply won't take the punishment into account because they do not plan to get caught.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

1206 AD methinks was when the Crusaders ransacked Constantinople. The Church replied accordingly and excommunicated the Crusaders.

I think we were talking about the Nika riots, which was a sports riot that took place in Constantinople on January 18, 532. And it was 30,000 dead fans.

Crime was much better punished years and years ago. Now we are too lenient. More jail time, and usage of the death penalty are what we need to happen more often.

True. There's too much emphasis today on rehabilitation, which is ridiculous. If a convict wants to rehabilitate himself, he'll do it because he wants to, not because someone coaxes him. Criminals are not reasonable people that suddenly see the error of their ways when confronted, or else they wouldn't be criminals. They only understand brutal force. By offering something different than brutal punishment, you only grant the criminal a means of manipulating it.

 

[.Shane.]

We Brits exported convicts to the colonies
that became the USA.....

Um... No.

Only one of the 13 US colonies had a significant "importation" (for lack of a better word) of convicts, and that was Georgia, which was the last colony founded. The convicts brought over were debtors, not violent criminals, and they were a small portion of the overall colonial population.

 

[Shylock]

we will descend into the kind gun culture of the USA with everyone shooting at everyone else

Indeed. They was an all out war at my school with Ak-47s and RPGs even for no apprent reason. I myself shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.

 

[Sidhe]

1206 AD methinks was when the Crusaders ransacked Constantinople. The Church replied accordingly and excommunicated the Crusaders.

Crime was much better punished years and years ago. Now we are too lenient. More jail time, and usage of the death penalty are what we need to happen more often.

Not quite they did nothing when Jerusalem was sacked and most of the population man woman and child was slaughtered by the crusaders. I think we're in a better place now.

And the death penalty does not discourage murder, evidence shows that lifting the death penalty decreases the level of murder and reintroducing it increases it, sorry it's a dead law that holds on because of ignorance.

 

[Blazer6]

/sigh
How do people come up with these reasons on why the death penalty doesn't work? How does a sentence applied after the crime is committed, supposed to act as some sort of shield against future crimes? Why single out the DP when all sentences have yet to eradicate crime?
The Death Penalty is just that, nothing more.

 

[sysyphus]

If detterence isn't the reason why have punishment at all then?

 

[Tycoon101]

I never said that the death penalty discourages murder. I should have said that it wipes the scum off the streets.

We'll SHOVE the fear o' God into them. Even if it costs the lives of thousands of criminals. Long jail times also keep them from society enough that they loose chances to become repeat offenders.