Adler17
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New deadline: Tomorrow morning.
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Cumulative PM-based History Quiz II
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Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Time over, no more PM please. A solution comes at once.
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Prussian Feldmarschall
Solution:
1. Raphael.
2. Elephant! Caesar´s ancestor killed an Elephant in the Punic wars. The Carthagian word for Elephant was Caesar, so he got this name. A common but wrong answer of this question is the origin from caedere- to cut or the Caesarean cut.
3. The word Deutsch originally means belonging to the people. It has no real people like the Franks, Finns or British since the German people consisted of several Germanic, Slavic and Baltic tribes but all having the same language and culture.
4. Ottokar II. Przemysl, king of Bohemia and twice nearly German emperor. He fought with the Teutonic order in Prussia. To honour him the city Königsberg was named after him. So the Teutonic order, and the coat of arms of Bohemia and Königsberg are clear. Rudolf von Habsburg was the one who beat him in the 2nd elction to become emperor and finally also in the battle, where Ottokar was murdered.
5. Surfing and Hawai´i.
6. Katana, Wakizashi and also Tanto, although latter I forgot include in the points. However no one had a disadvantage
7. Frederic the Great of Prussia. As crown prince he wrote the Antimacciavell but only a few years later with the attack on Silesia he acted in the traditionsof Macciavelli. Later he regretted this attack.
8. They were all freemasons.
9. The sloop HMS Egret became famous as the first ship being sunk by guided missiles in 1943.
10. Adelbert von Chamisso. Chamisso island is a small island in the Kotzebue sund in Alaska.
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1. Raphael.
2. Elephant! Caesar´s ancestor killed an Elephant in the Punic wars. The Carthagian word for Elephant was Caesar, so he got this name. A common but wrong answer of this question is the origin from caedere- to cut or the Caesarean cut.
3. The word Deutsch originally means belonging to the people. It has no real people like the Franks, Finns or British since the German people consisted of several Germanic, Slavic and Baltic tribes but all having the same language and culture.
4. Ottokar II. Przemysl, king of Bohemia and twice nearly German emperor. He fought with the Teutonic order in Prussia. To honour him the city Königsberg was named after him. So the Teutonic order, and the coat of arms of Bohemia and Königsberg are clear. Rudolf von Habsburg was the one who beat him in the 2nd elction to become emperor and finally also in the battle, where Ottokar was murdered.
5. Surfing and Hawai´i.
6. Katana, Wakizashi and also Tanto, although latter I forgot include in the points. However no one had a disadvantage
7. Frederic the Great of Prussia. As crown prince he wrote the Antimacciavell but only a few years later with the attack on Silesia he acted in the traditionsof Macciavelli. Later he regretted this attack.
8. They were all freemasons.
9. The sloop HMS Egret became famous as the first ship being sunk by guided missiles in 1943.
10. Adelbert von Chamisso. Chamisso island is a small island in the Kotzebue sund in Alaska.
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Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Ending score:
Ciceronian 8 pts.
YNCS 7 pts.
Ciceronian did not answer all questions the first time but did so today. That´s why he took the lead. However only 2 answerers is a bit too low, that´s why I extended the quiz.
Ciceronian, your turn.
Adler
Ciceronian 8 pts.
YNCS 7 pts.
Ciceronian did not answer all questions the first time but did so today. That´s why he took the lead. However only 2 answerers is a bit too low, that´s why I extended the quiz.
Ciceronian, your turn.
Adler
Ciceronian
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Woohoo! ![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
My first win on the PM-based quiz! Only one competitor, but he was the respectable YNCS, who has always landed in front of me until now!I will post a quiz either later today or tomorrow once I have finished celebrating.
Seriously, I just want to come up with a quiz which matches the high standard of all the previous ones!
Ciceronian
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OK, finally, after hours of work, I've completed my quiz. I've made use of lots of pictures, and I think it should be fun. There's lots of easy points, so I encourage everyone to submit, but there are a couple of questions which really separate the wheat from the chaff. I admit it is relatively Eurocentric, but otherwise it is fairly broadly distributed. The quiz is too large to post in one post, so here it comes in two parts. And remember, no research allowed!
I don't have a deadline yet, it depends on whether I will be able to go online next week. I will post a deadline later, but try and submit as soon as possible please.
1. How, according to legend, did Empedocles die? (1 point)
2. Name each of the people in pictures 1 to 3. (3 x ½ point) Which person is connected to these pictures? (1½ points)
3. Which two large cities starting with the same letter were razed by the Romans in 146 BC? (2 x ½ point)
4. What event is depicted in picture 4? Name the event (1 point) and give a brief description of what is taking place (1 point). Name two of the people in the picture (2 x ½ point)
5. I was a philsopher and I killed myself. A native American tribe has the same name as I do. What is my name? (1 point)
6. Which Russian national hero, depicted on picture 5, beat the Teutonic Order at the battle on Lake Peipus? (1 point) How did he gain his surname? (1 point)
7. Who wrote the following: (1 point)
8. The Thirty Years War was fought between Catholic and Protestant countries on each side. Which was the first major power to break this pattern and fight for the other side, whose religion they did not follow? (1 point)
9. From which culture are the artifacts depicted in pictures 6 and 7? (1 point)
10. From which culture does this myth stem: (1 point)
I admit it is relatively Eurocentric, but otherwise it is fairly broadly distributed. The quiz is too large to post in one post, so here it comes in two parts. And remember, no research allowed!I don't have a deadline yet, it depends on whether I will be able to go online next week. I will post a deadline later, but try and submit as soon as possible please.
1. How, according to legend, did Empedocles die? (1 point)
2. Name each of the people in pictures 1 to 3. (3 x ½ point) Which person is connected to these pictures? (1½ points)
3. Which two large cities starting with the same letter were razed by the Romans in 146 BC? (2 x ½ point)
4. What event is depicted in picture 4? Name the event (1 point) and give a brief description of what is taking place (1 point). Name two of the people in the picture (2 x ½ point)
5. I was a philsopher and I killed myself. A native American tribe has the same name as I do. What is my name? (1 point)
6. Which Russian national hero, depicted on picture 5, beat the Teutonic Order at the battle on Lake Peipus? (1 point) How did he gain his surname? (1 point)
7. Who wrote the following: (1 point)
He also said that (???) awakened me from my dogmatic slumbers. Who was ??? (1 point)??? said:
8. The Thirty Years War was fought between Catholic and Protestant countries on each side. Which was the first major power to break this pattern and fight for the other side, whose religion they did not follow? (1 point)
9. From which culture are the artifacts depicted in pictures 6 and 7? (1 point)
10. From which culture does this myth stem: (1 point)
??? said:
Ciceronian
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11. Who is widely recognized as the first king of Norway? (1 point)
12. A new type of question: Pictures 8 to 10 show three different people. In each of their lives there were several key events, like their birth, publication of their most famous work or their death. There is a decade in which all of these people experienced such an event. Which decade was this? (2 points)
13. Pictures 11 to 14 show four different buildings. Name each of them (4 x ½ point) and name the cities they stand in (4 x ½ point). Which of these cities is, not for geographical reasons (like so-and-so is not on a major river), the odd one out and why? (2 points)
Good luck and have fun everyone!
EDIT: 25 points in total btw.
12. A new type of question: Pictures 8 to 10 show three different people. In each of their lives there were several key events, like their birth, publication of their most famous work or their death. There is a decade in which all of these people experienced such an event. Which decade was this? (2 points)
13. Pictures 11 to 14 show four different buildings. Name each of them (4 x ½ point) and name the cities they stand in (4 x ½ point). Which of these cities is, not for geographical reasons (like so-and-so is not on a major river), the odd one out and why? (2 points)
Good luck and have fun everyone!
EDIT: 25 points in total btw.
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
I´ll PM you later. I have little time now. Good quiz. 
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Richard Cribb
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Very good quiz. I expected no less, but still. 
I will see if I can submit tomorrow evening.
I will see if I can submit tomorrow evening.
Ciceronian
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Yes, you're right, I also like the quiz myself. It offers types of questions which have never been asked before, like the decade search.
And it works a lot with pictures, which makes it a more interactive experience, examining the pictures and such. But there are still bog-standard short questions about kings and battles aswell.
And no submissions yet. This is probably because the thing looks quite intimidating and people need to ponder a lot before submitting.
And it works a lot with pictures, which makes it a more interactive experience, examining the pictures and such. But there are still bog-standard short questions about kings and battles aswell.
And no submissions yet. This is probably because the thing looks quite intimidating and people need to ponder a lot before submitting.
thetrooper
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Nice quiz Ciceronian! What about the deadline?
Ciceronian
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The following was written in the first post of the quiz:thetrooper said:
As it looks at the moment, I will have an internet access in my holiday place next week, *but* it may not get set up until some time during next week. So I will probably be off from Sunday morning to perhaps Tuesday or so, let's see. So let's say the deadline will beCiceronian said:
Thursday 18.00 CET
for now. You can take your time for submissions, and on request I may postpone the deadline. Until then, happy guessing and give the "puzzle" questions some thought!
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
Sydhe submitted the quiz bit by bit, scoring 12 points in total.
Amongst others, he managed to crack #12.
Amongst others, he managed to crack #12.
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
I will briefly be absent. I may be back as soon as Monday, but it may take a while longer. Until then, just PM your answers. I'll reply as soon as I can.
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
Plotinus submits his answers to this slightly theologically-themed quiz, and struggling very valiantly with the wordly questions. The scoreboard now reads:
Plotinus 13.5
Sydhe 12
Their answers complemented each others so nicely that most questions have already been cracked, except for nos. 2, 11 and 13. I must reiterate that the answer to no. 13 is not that for geographical reasons, but has something to do with the history of the cities.
I hope more submissions come soon. Try to keep the deadline but I will be flexible as I am unsure when I will be able to post again. It should be soon though. Until then, submit, submit!
Plotinus 13.5
Sydhe 12
Their answers complemented each others so nicely that most questions have already been cracked, except for nos. 2, 11 and 13. I must reiterate that the answer to no. 13 is not that for geographical reasons, but has something to do with the history of the cities.
I hope more submissions come soon. Try to keep the deadline but I will be flexible as I am unsure when I will be able to post again. It should be soon though. Until then, submit, submit!
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
Since I have very rare access to the 'net from my holiday location, and I'm using a Mac 
, which is a real pain, I wasn't able to PM most people individually on their answers. The answers will also not be too detailed for the same reason. Sorry for that. Now we come to the solutions and the grand winner... the great, ingenious, unbeatable historian luceafarul! 
He was of course the hot favourite for this one, but thanks to lots of submissions had lots of competion. The final standings are:
Luceafarul 17.5
Plotinus 13.5
(Adler 13.5)
Thetrooper 12
Sydhe 12
Oryctolagus 8.5
Adler managed to tie for the silver medal with Plotinus, but was competing just for fun so to say as he had hosted the previous quiz. Thetrooper ties for fourth place with Sydhe thanks to a good effort. The wooden medal to Oryctolagus, who must have been in a hurry, but nevertheless figured out some tough ones.
Solutions:
1. Empedocles, Greek philosopher in Sicily, came up with many brilliant ideas which are known to be correct today, and was the last Greek philosopher to write in verse, but met an unfortunate end when he threw himself into the volcano Etna to prove his immortality. Of course he was wrong.
2. The first picture shows Richard Wagner, German composer. The second is Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher. The last picture, which nobody found out, shows the Greek God of wine and feasting Dionysos. Hence the fourth man is Friedrich Nietzsche, German philosopher, a friend of Wagner in his earlier days, and a contemporary of Schopenhauer. Incidentally Schopenhauer called Nietzche a 'clumsy charlatan'. They disagreed on the question of will, Schopenhauer thought it was the source of all evil while Nietzsche thought it was the source of all of man's strength. Nietzsche wrote about Dinoysos in his books, and was fascinated by the different aspects of him, for instance Apollo, the god of art and music. So one could have recognized Dionysos by working backwards from Nietzche as an answer. Nobody managed to identify Dionysos.
3. In 146 BC, the Romans ended the 3rd Punic War by razing Carthage and broke Greek resistance by razing Corinth. Arguably the beginning of a new age of imperialism for Rome.
4. The picture shows the Cadaver Synod of 897, where Pope Stephen VII put his predecessor Formosus to trial posthumously for various allegations. He actually had him dug up again and present in the courtroom, and he condemned him to being stripped of his papal garments and had him thrown into the Tiber. All of Formosus' edicts were anulled.
5. Seneca
6. The required man is Alexander Newsky, who gained his name by beating the Swedes at the river Neva.
7. The extract is from Kant's essaz 'What is Enlightenment?'. Kant, after reading the British philosopher David Hume, said that he had awakened him from his dogmatic slumbers.
8. France, a Catholic country, joined the Protestant side.
9. Most people said India, which earned them half a point. Nobody actually said the Indus culture, a rival to the Mesopotamian and Nile cultures of the time. I'm glad the second picture didn't get modded!
10. This is a Maori creation myth.
11. Harald Fairhair was the first king of the Norwegians around 900, uniting them for the first time.
12. The first picture depicts Hieronymus Bosch, Dutch painter, died 1516. The second shows Martin Luther, who nailed his 95 theses to the door of the church of Wittenberg, my birthplace, in 1517. Thomas More is the 3rd person, and he published his most famous work 'Utopia' in 1516. So the answer is obviously the 1510s. Quite a few got this answer, although some had a narrow miss with the 1500s.
13. The first picture is the Leaning Tower of Pisa in the same town. The second one is the Peter's Dome and Square in the Vatican, Rome. The third, which nobody recognized (it was hard) was the Papal Palace in Avignon. The last picture is the Eiffel Tower, Paris. Nobody figured out the odd one out though. During the Great Schizm of the Church in the Middle Ages, there were two popes at the same time, in Rome and in Avignon. A synod was called up to settle the matter and it produced a third pope, who set up residence in Pisa. So there were three popes from three cities at the same time. Hence the odd one out is Paris, which has nothing to do with the popes. I'm surprised Plotinus didn't get that one, but nobody did, probably because Avignon was dificult to recognize.
So it's luceafarul's turn next. He told me he may pass, in that case Plotinus would be able to take it. But first, let's see if luceafarul is willing.
, which is a real pain, I wasn't able to PM most people individually on their answers. The answers will also not be too detailed for the same reason. Sorry for that. Now we come to the solutions and the grand winner... the great, ingenious, unbeatable historian luceafarul! He was of course the hot favourite for this one, but thanks to lots of submissions had lots of competion. The final standings are:Luceafarul 17.5
Plotinus 13.5
(Adler 13.5)
Thetrooper 12
Sydhe 12
Oryctolagus 8.5
Adler managed to tie for the silver medal with Plotinus, but was competing just for fun so to say as he had hosted the previous quiz. Thetrooper ties for fourth place with Sydhe thanks to a good effort. The wooden medal to Oryctolagus, who must have been in a hurry, but nevertheless figured out some tough ones.
Solutions:
1. Empedocles, Greek philosopher in Sicily, came up with many brilliant ideas which are known to be correct today, and was the last Greek philosopher to write in verse, but met an unfortunate end when he threw himself into the volcano Etna to prove his immortality. Of course he was wrong.
2. The first picture shows Richard Wagner, German composer. The second is Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher. The last picture, which nobody found out, shows the Greek God of wine and feasting Dionysos. Hence the fourth man is Friedrich Nietzsche, German philosopher, a friend of Wagner in his earlier days, and a contemporary of Schopenhauer. Incidentally Schopenhauer called Nietzche a 'clumsy charlatan'. They disagreed on the question of will, Schopenhauer thought it was the source of all evil while Nietzsche thought it was the source of all of man's strength. Nietzsche wrote about Dinoysos in his books, and was fascinated by the different aspects of him, for instance Apollo, the god of art and music. So one could have recognized Dionysos by working backwards from Nietzche as an answer. Nobody managed to identify Dionysos.
3. In 146 BC, the Romans ended the 3rd Punic War by razing Carthage and broke Greek resistance by razing Corinth. Arguably the beginning of a new age of imperialism for Rome.
4. The picture shows the Cadaver Synod of 897, where Pope Stephen VII put his predecessor Formosus to trial posthumously for various allegations. He actually had him dug up again and present in the courtroom, and he condemned him to being stripped of his papal garments and had him thrown into the Tiber. All of Formosus' edicts were anulled.
5. Seneca
6. The required man is Alexander Newsky, who gained his name by beating the Swedes at the river Neva.
7. The extract is from Kant's essaz 'What is Enlightenment?'. Kant, after reading the British philosopher David Hume, said that he had awakened him from his dogmatic slumbers.
8. France, a Catholic country, joined the Protestant side.
9. Most people said India, which earned them half a point. Nobody actually said the Indus culture, a rival to the Mesopotamian and Nile cultures of the time. I'm glad the second picture didn't get modded!
10. This is a Maori creation myth.
11. Harald Fairhair was the first king of the Norwegians around 900, uniting them for the first time.
12. The first picture depicts Hieronymus Bosch, Dutch painter, died 1516. The second shows Martin Luther, who nailed his 95 theses to the door of the church of Wittenberg, my birthplace, in 1517. Thomas More is the 3rd person, and he published his most famous work 'Utopia' in 1516. So the answer is obviously the 1510s. Quite a few got this answer, although some had a narrow miss with the 1500s.
13. The first picture is the Leaning Tower of Pisa in the same town. The second one is the Peter's Dome and Square in the Vatican, Rome. The third, which nobody recognized (it was hard) was the Papal Palace in Avignon. The last picture is the Eiffel Tower, Paris. Nobody figured out the odd one out though. During the Great Schizm of the Church in the Middle Ages, there were two popes at the same time, in Rome and in Avignon. A synod was called up to settle the matter and it produced a third pope, who set up residence in Pisa. So there were three popes from three cities at the same time. Hence the odd one out is Paris, which has nothing to do with the popes. I'm surprised Plotinus didn't get that one, but nobody did, probably because Avignon was dificult to recognize.
So it's luceafarul's turn next. He told me he may pass, in that case Plotinus would be able to take it. But first, let's see if luceafarul is willing.
Richard Cribb
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That's the sort of stories opera librettos come from! Thanks for the lesson, I had no idea of this fascinating tale!Ciceronian said:
I will decide tomorrow. I am going abroad on Wednesday, and just like you I will have only sporidically access to internet then. I am now intending to rest on my laurels and decide tomorrow if I will make one or pass it to our excellent friend Plotinus.
Have a nice evening everybody.
sydhe
King of Kongs
I knew of the Synod but couldn't remember the names of the Popes. Stephen was strangled a few months later because of the trial (a number of popes were murdered around then). Poor Formosus was exhumed at least once more, and beheaded, reinstated retroactively as Pope a couple of times and condemned a couple of times. It took a century or two to straighten everything out.
thetrooper
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Ciceronian said:
aka Harald Finehair (Medieval Scandinavia, Birgit & Peter Sawyer, 1993).
I must admit that I haven't seen the Finehair reference elsewhere (luceafarul?). Doesn't matter though - Fairhair sounds more... right (maybe because of the rhyme).
The Norwegian word is Hårfagre btw (fager ~ fair as in "the fair sex"). Poor Harald!
Richard Cribb
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thetrooper said:
Shaggy Harald is probably the best, I don't think his hair was neither so fair nor so fine eventually...
And except for a plethoria of articles on-line I also don't know any other references, but then I usually stick to Norwegian historians on this topic.
I didn't have time for writing much yesterday, and forgot to say this yesterday:
Kudos to our excellent quiz-master Ciceronian for a most inventive, informative and quite demanding quiz.
It is a good thing that the level is constantly raised, even if that makes it more demanding for us who have to stitch together new quizes...I am working on a quiz right now, but I may have to pass it since I really should waste my time elsewhere right now. So either I post one tomorrow or I will just PM Plotinus so he can step in. Just stay tuned!
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