Cyber Nations
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taillesskangaru said:
Using resources can boost population count, getting certain improvements (like a hospital, clinic, etc) getting certain events can boost population, and soldiers boost population (they boost supporter count but are not taxpaying citizens)
Other then that unfortunately infrastructure is the only reliable way to boost your population
Bluemofia
F=ma
Which is why I have 508.07 infrastructure. (and it is still not enough)
greenpeace
Peacelord
IMO there isn't ever really "enough" infrastructure because the more you buy the richer you become (unlesss you buy so much infrastructure that it you make less money with the infra, but that is a very far fethced goal).Bluemofia said:
also, I'd like to ask a question that probably doesn't have an answer, but I'll ask any way, construction says "reduces infrastructure cost -5%," does that mean -5% off the initial purchase or -5% off of infrastructure upkeep?
Bluemofia
F=ma
Enough for me is when I have enough citizens to be powerful, but not enough for people in the game to nuke me. (I'm like Bismark. Want power, but know when to stop)
Don't know. Probably initial purchase, since my logic is that you construct the infrastructure once. To make repairs, you don't use buldozers much, and that is seperate.
Don't know. Probably initial purchase, since my logic is that you construct the infrastructure once. To make repairs, you don't use buldozers much, and that is seperate.
greenpeace
Peacelord
In my previous calculation I came up with 95% off infrastructure. However, what I overlooked was TWO resources, those are:
Aluminum, -7%
Rubber -3%
which is a total of -105%,
In my opinion, however, Construction said -5% off Infra cost so I think that means -5% off Infra UPKEEP thus making it an even -100% (otherwise you would money from buying Infrastructure
)
Isn't that cool? That means you could in theory buy infra forever and only have to about upkeep costs being more than gain from infra purchase. Plus the fact that your population would be unhappy due to shortage of police (military) and population density (not enough land). A funny thought: you expand to the first postition overnight, but you only have a thousand or so troops
nuke: ).
EDIT: New and unfortunate news, factories now only give -8% which translates to -20% infastructure or -75% total
Newer news: The bonus resources have gotten asphault which gives -8% infrastructure raising our total to -83% which still is unfortunate compared to what we use to have.
*Sigh* now lumber is only -6% now brining our total to 79% off
Aluminum, -7%
Rubber -3%
which is a total of -105%,
In my opinion, however, Construction said -5% off Infra cost so I think that means -5% off Infra UPKEEP thus making it an even -100% (otherwise you would money from buying Infrastructure
)Isn't that cool? That means you could in theory buy infra forever and only have to about upkeep costs being more than gain from infra purchase. Plus the fact that your population would be unhappy due to shortage of police (military) and population density (not enough land). A funny thought: you expand to the first postition overnight, but you only have a thousand or so troops
nuke: ).EDIT: New and unfortunate news, factories now only give -8% which translates to -20% infastructure or -75% total
Newer news: The bonus resources have gotten asphault which gives -8% infrastructure raising our total to -83% which still is unfortunate compared to what we use to have.
*Sigh* now lumber is only -6% now brining our total to 79% off
Bluemofia
F=ma
greenpeace said:In my previous calculation I came up with 95% off infrastructure. However, what I overlooked was TWO resources, those are:
Aluminum, -7%
Rubber -3%
which is a total of -105%,
In my opinion, however, Construction said -5% off Infra cost so I think that means -5% off Infra UPKEEP thus making it an even -100% (otherwise you would money from buying Infrastructure
Isn't that cool? That means you could in theory buy infra forever and only have to about upkeep costs being more than gain from infra purchase. Plus the fact that your population would be unhappy due to shortage of police (military) and population density (not enough land). A funny thought: you expand to the first postition overnight, but you only have a thousand or so troops
EDIT: New and unfortunate news, factories now only give -8% which translates to -20% infastructure or -75% total
Newer news: The bonus resources have gotten asphault which gives -8% infrastructure raising our total to -83% which still is unfortunate compared to what we use to have.
*Sigh* now lumber is only -6% now brining our total to 79% off
And with the changes to the bonus resources, I don't have everything needed anymore. Oh well. Time to rework the massive trade networks...
greenpeace
Peacelord
lol, I just found this post in the IRON forums
p.s. there's no hope for the infra reduction thing, reductions multiply (with only improvemnts adding and a few resources adding as well).
p.s. there's no hope for the infra reduction thing, reductions multiply (with only improvemnts adding and a few resources adding as well).
Bluemofia
F=ma
I'm wondering if I should buy a nuke...
Because I have the stuff needed, just that I need about 50 more infrastructure, and I'll get that in 3 or 4 days.
Because I have the stuff needed, just that I need about 50 more infrastructure, and I'll get that in 3 or 4 days.
greenpeace
Peacelord
wow your good! Anyway I definently recomend getting a nuke or three to prevent people declaring wra esp. if you are a rogue. But with the aircraft and all, you may want to spend money on those to (they can do basically everything a CM can and also can take out CM's as well as fighters being able to take down other fighters and bombers.Bluemofia said:
Bluemofia
F=ma
greenpeace
Peacelord
your 194 days old and you aren't affiliated with an alliance! Join an alliance already! I, of course, suggest IRON, the alliance you will least likly to be attacked in. Other alliances are on the brink of starting a world war, IRON on the other hand does not need to worry. Plus if you join you will get the money to buy three nukes right away, so join now.Bluemofia said:But I read that if you get a nuke, people would grief you. And I haven't had anyone declare war on me for a long time, so that's not bothering me.
I'm just waiting for aircraft. Then I'll be stocking up on them.
BTW, my nation again: Nicronia
Bluemofia
F=ma
I'm too lazy to join an alliance.greenpeace said:
So... What do I have to do to join IRON?
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
I got very bored with it very fast
greenpeace
Peacelord
greenpeace
Peacelord
thats not true, in IRON you can attack non-allied (and also non-orange) nations if you want to (all you have to do is tell your squadron commander that your going to do it). Also if you get attacked you might not be your own state, you'll just be rubble (some alliances destroy aggressive rogues).Stylesjl said:
oops sorry about the double post
Bluemofia
F=ma
So I don't need to be on orange team to do so?greenpeace said:
greenpeace
Peacelord
Although you they probably won't expell you they really want you to be on the orange team.Bluemofia said:
Bluemofia
F=ma
Now that I don't want to do, because I've got all my trades worked out already.greenpeace said:
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