Dark Age Britain

[Ingvina Freyr]

Any Ideas on Scandinavian Settlements

Here's the result of a quick search on the internet. I haven't checked the content, just copied and pasted...

Scandinavian settlements and placenames in Ireland
The Skellig Islands off the coast of Kerry. Wicklow on the east coast of Ireland. Howth on the north side of Dublin Bay. Dalkey on the south side of Dublin, on the coast. Leixlip on the river Liffey, west of Dublin. Lambay a small island off the coast of Dublin. The Saltee Islands, on the south coast of Wexford. Smerwick at the Dingle peninsula in west Kerry. Dursey Island off the coast of Cork.Strangford on the north/east coast near Belfast . Carlingford on the Irish Sea north of Dun dalk. Wexford at the south/east corner of Ireland. Waterford on the south coast of Ireland.

Scandinavian settlements and placenames in Orkney
The Parish of Birsa, later Birsay, from Birgis, Bergis, or Byrgis The Island of Burray, from Borgarey Cubbie Roo's Castle, from Kolbein Hruga Dingieshowe from Pingshaugr, in Deerness, on the Mainland The Island of Eday from Eioey The Island of Eynhallow, from Eyin helga The Parish of Harra, later Harray, from Harad, Herad, or Herao The Island of Gairsay from Gareksey The Island of Hoy, from Haey The town of Kirkwall from Kirkwaa or Kirk Voe The Mainland from Meginland The Island of Stroma, from Straumsey The Island of Stronsay, from Strjonsey Tingwall, from Pingvollr, the probable site of the principal thing, in Evie, on the Mainland The headlands of Veness, Warness, and Fersness on the Island of Eday The Island of Wyre, from Vigr

Scandinavian strongholds and placenames in England
York (Jorvik), Ingoldsby, Grimsby, Lincoln, Nottingham, Derby, Stamford, Leicester and also the Hebrides, the Isle of Man, the Shetland islands

 

[The Thracian]

Ok so scandavia had english settlements so their challenge is that their settlements are spread around

Just to say I'll be doing my map making at half-term

 

[laughingwarlock]

If you were going to use Wales, I'd highly advise you use Llwelyn ap Gruffudd as a possible leader. He was the last great king of Wales before Edward I finally shattered the kingdoms independence. It was under his rule that the Welch Kingdom was more united then it ever was.

Wales was a very divided nations because land of the father was shared equally among all sons, rather then just the oldest. So a single province could be divided into many within a few generations. Also, England’s marcher lords held considerable footing there for a time as well. I don’t know how you could involve this intense decentralization into the game though.

But anyway, I’d seriously advise using Llwelyn ap Gruffudd as the Welch leader. After all, he was the only one who wore the title “Prince of Wales.”

 

[Craig_Sutter]

I'm not certain, but the welsh leader may be outside the timeline of this scenario... what date would he have been prominent? Within the scenario's timeline? I'm not certain if the creator intends to go beyond what would have been the Norman Invasion... 1066 ad... there are no Normans in the scenario. But he'd be the final authority, natch.

Sounds good, otherwise.

 

[PeeJay2K2]

Machynlleth, Llanelwy and Caerdydd should be added to the list of Welsh cities. I'll try and think of some more historically significant towns.

EDIT: Also, if you want a leader from before 1066, go for Gruffydd ap Llywelyn and/or Hywel Dda. Hywel was the first leader of Deheubarth (West Wales) back in about 920AD, then Gruffydd was Prince of Gwynedd until about 1063.

EDIT 2: Dunno if archery was around back before the turn of the 2nd Millennium, but Wales' UU should probably be some sort of archer.

 

[Starship]

Hello. Looking forward to trying your scenario out. One thing I would recommend...check out the Rood and the Dragon scenario for Civ III. It might help with initial ideas, possible uu's, etc..

 

[The Thracian]

I can do alot of things but I'd need somebody to create leaderheads and Units. The map-making I'll start tomorrow. Thanks for the welsh leader suggestion.

 

[The Thracian]

Any Infomation about scripting as I'd like to script the scandivian raids.Just to say I'm not that good at all at modding. If anyone was to take up the mod on my ideas it would be great and I would help out in Research and Advanced Editing eg. leaders, dates and calendar

 

[Mozza]

This website may be of use to you:

http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/

Took this from there:

 

[The Thracian]

Thank You. I still hope somebody can make the map and I help with editing and research.

Current Debate: 3rd settlement for east anglia, Thetford, Elmham and ?

 

[Kaiser Mac Cleg]

Sorry, but I can't help you with that, I can help you with Wales though. The most powerful principalities in Wales were Gwynedd, Powys and Deuheubarth (Dyfed) so I would reccomend those if you are going to split the factions up more. Also, the peoples of Cornwall, Manau and the southerb Scots all spoke Welsh.

 

[SaepesGenistae]

If you wanted to use authentic Old Norse names for Viking settlements in Ireland, here are a few I know of:

Wicklow = Vikingrló
Waterford = Vaðrefjörðr
Wexford = Eskifjörðr

There are probably lots more, but research would be needed.

 

[Kaiser Mac Cleg]

Yes, authentic names...

For Wales you could have

Caer Yn Arfon
Bangor
Aber(gwyngregyn)
Dolwyddelan
Dolbadarn

(All in Gwynedd)

I don't know much anout dark age settlements in the other pricipalities, sorry.

 

[PeeJay2K2]

Gwynedd would also have contained Rhuddlan and Llanelwy. Not sure about their significance in the Dark Ages, if any, but they're pretty significant in terms of the overall history of Wales if that helps

 

[The Thracian]

I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to work on this guys. Hopefully someone can take up the idea as I'm really busy

 

[zimtallist]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but i have to ask. Thracian, are you saying you're not working on this map anymore? if so, is someone?

 

[The Thracian]

dunno if anyone is. Hope somebody takes the idea up.

 

[zimtallist]

Well, i will if noone else steps up to do it, i would really like to play this thing,

 

[wgauld]

I like the sound of this scenario, hope to see a finished product soon, keep up the good work.

 

[zimtallist]

Ok well im going to pick this scenario back up then, if anyone or the creator wants to give me advice or help please feel free, and if someone thinks this scenario needs a mod they should also speak up, because i dont have any modding experience and dont know if this scenaro needs a mod.