Dear Fireaxis. I've had enough!!!

[donhenriko]

Well, if you're lucky enough to find a handful of patient friends to play with, I can see how MP could be your preferred environment. No big deal, it's reasonable for them to want a fun game for their playstyle too. <shrug>

I have alot of patient no quitting players to play with. The problem is that we have to reload the game every 30 min or so.

Personally, I can't play SP anymore. After having played alot of MP, I can never go back to SP. Put quite simply, the challenge isnt there.

 

[Tabarnak]

Who plays MP? I'm sure you'll say something like "I do!" but the odds of getting any significant amount of "good" players in one game for 4-6hrs to get even a single satisfying game are so astronomically low that for them to even consider investing in MP seems ridiculous.

The biggest advancement in Civ multiplayer was when they put options for the AI to jump in a players place when they leave and even then barely anyone ever tried multiplayer.

I'd reconsider this if they somehow came up with a well paced scenario that played out over say an hour. However, that's not why I buy a civ game. <.<

More people play mp than you think. Many of them play only with people they know, playing different games like the first to spaceship, diplo, etc. They often set games which you can't see in the lobby(privates). Personnally i rarely wait more than 10 min to get in a 6 payers game. I'm in ET time and play after midnight. You can play under many servers.

But in ladder games and FFAs it's war oriented because humans are not dumb. They know what to do(from decent players) and it's usually more difficult and challenging than playing the AI. Other victories conditions need modern techs, so resisting all the way to this situation and try to win by science for example, against humans, is almost an exploit.

The problem is Firaxis told that we would have a great mp environment since september(or a bit later with early patches) which is still not the case. That is a major fail and why fewer people play mp.

 

[civnoob13]

Sorry - I misread the poll - I thought it was asking about civ 5 itself, not MP, hence I wrongly voted for 'extremely good'. I wouldn't have voted otherwise; I haven't played MP.

 

[donhenriko]

More people play mp than you think. Many of them play only with people they know, playing different games like the first to spaceship, diplo, etc. They often set games which you can't see in the lobby(privates). Personnally i rarely wait more than 10 min to get in a 6 payers game. I'm in ET time and play after midnight. You can play under many servers.

But in ladder games and FFAs it's war oriented because humans are not dumb. They know what to do(from decent players) and it's usually more difficult and challenging than playing the AI. Other victories conditions need modern techs, so resisting all the way to this situation and try to win by science for example, against humans, is almost an exploit.

The problem is Firaxis told that we would have a great mp environment since september(or a bit later with early patches) which is still not the case. That is a major fail and why fewer people play mp.

We have a Steam group called "No Quitters" which is by invitation only. We get good games every day, and epic games quite often. The problem is not to find dedicated players, it is to get that god damn game working without having to reload every 30 min.

Btw. We do reload every time it crashes. Without exceptions. We do it, but it is very annoying.

 

[Tabarnak]

We have a Steam group called "No Quitters" which is by invitation only. We get good games every day, and epic games quite often. The problem is not to find dedicated players, it is to get that god damn game working without having to reload every 30 min.

Btw. We do reload every time it crashes. Without exceptions. We do it, but it is very annoying.

I'm an admin of a group called ''Patient civ players''. I'm awared of the No Quitters group, some of my steam friends are already in. I will check and send an invite form right now. I almost tried to join this group days ago but i got buzy about something else at same time. Let's play one someday!

Edit : 4 of my friends are members : Nemesis, MAKAVELI, mav99 and swordspider aka The great general.

My steam name is Tabarnak2010. I need someone to invite me first.

Ok done. Nemesis have sent me an invite. I'm in tha group lol

 

[donhenriko]

give me your steam name, and Ill send you an invite. But, be aware, you will be kicked if you quit

 

[Tabarnak]

give me your steam name, and Ill send you an invite. But, be aware, you will be kicked if you quit

I usually make people quit...if you know what i mean...i checked some banned players and i know few of them. Fortunately they didn't quit in my games played, reason why they are still friends. If the player offers no resistance, i call this a quit. If he fight until capital is down and have really no chances to come back i don't call this a quit(still, AI can be exploited).

 

[Skwink]

I play Civ for SP.

 

[Astax]

I have actually boycotted civ V. I tried the demo just to make sure. It is garbage, and in no shape or form is it better than civ 4 in MP. Not a single aspect of the game is better. Civ 4 is still awesome btw, and I do still play it occasionally.

 

[TagoMago]

cIV lan party with old friends....now that's a good time. I'm fortunate I guess in that I have friends who play civ, we go all the way back to civII and ctp hotseat. I can say that we are eagerly awaiting the arrival of MP fixes (among other things) for ciV. While I can see why multiplayer isnt a priority since most people would have bought the game regardless, it's certainly a factor if you want to create a long-lived game with a great community.

 

[Yzman]

I play with 3 people from work and our games always work fine.

 

[Koolhan]

I picked very bad, only because they should have it fixed by now. Stumbles out of the gate are to be expected, but not this late after so many patches. Granted, MP is and should never be the focus in Civilization, however in this day and age it should still be a working feature. Civ4 had a tremendous amount of issues too, but Civ5 seems almost worse(in that sometimes games won't even start). I really hope the next patch deals with MP, and soon. MP is a good way to give a game longevity and strengthen the community, but Civ5 dropped the ball so far.

 

[wcbarney]

Sorry - I misread the poll - I thought it was asking about civ 5 itself, not MP, hence I wrongly voted for 'extremely good'. I wouldn't have voted otherwise; I haven't played MP.

Same here; except I voted "Very Good."

 

[Luckystrike77]

Civ5 is a great game for multiplayer, perhaps the best in the series, much due to alot more interesting wars. But the unstableness is what ruins it. You can only play trusted people on your friendslist, so you can be sure all meet up again for reloads.

 

[tommynt]

problem is that most players (as all in here) play "dumb" settings.

6 player games with randoms just wont have a good ending - why even setup them?

Ancient is very rush orientated with the liberty sp tree, if u arent good better dont start em or decent players ll just pawn u.

What u gyus should set up:
later game eras games:

U ll be able to go though a lot of tech tree in like 2-3 hours and have WAY more options then in ancient starts. Sure bad players might be overchallenged but if u got some semidecent IQ u ll get into it very fast.

Medi and Indu starts are my favourites, lot different strats and tactis can work - with increased sp points get close to tree finishers kinda fast making choises a bit harder.
You can rush, outtech, wonder whore .. so many options and way faster paced game then anc.

Go with duels or 2-2, FFA just are waste of time usually

 

[Furycrab]

More people play mp than you think. Many of them play only with people they know, playing different games like the first to spaceship, diplo, etc. They often set games which you can't see in the lobby(privates). Personnally i rarely wait more than 10 min to get in a 6 payers game. I'm in ET time and play after midnight. You can play under many servers.

But in ladder games and FFAs it's war oriented because humans are not dumb. They know what to do(from decent players) and it's usually more difficult and challenging than playing the AI. Other victories conditions need modern techs, so resisting all the way to this situation and try to win by science for example, against humans, is almost an exploit.

The problem is Firaxis told that we would have a great mp environment since september(or a bit later with early patches) which is still not the case. That is a major fail and why fewer people play mp.

It's different then SP no doubt, however you're still talking about less than 5% of the games that are actually played. I have no doubt that they are still improving the MP experience, but I'd gamble that it's almost impossible to sift through most of the bugs when you factor in all the people that still play this game with underspeced computers on too high of a setting.

They have sold a ton of copies by now so it stands that a decent amount of people play MP, but if they divide the manpower they have according to how many people play or have played MP in any civ game... You end up with a sorry looking MP division.

Not saying they aren't working on any issues you might have, but you do realize MP civ players are the very definition of a vocal minority.

 

[Guardian_PL]

It's Firaxis fyi

You sir have just made a fool of yourself, well done.



OP, I don't see what's the basis for your frustration - there's so many things inherently wrong with Civ5 that to be angered about yet another issue poorly made is out of place imo.

On the other side, one has to admit that they've got their logic - look at all those fans being ecstatic for the graphs and replay - they're worshipping the devs for it instead of going ", finally".
Short attention spam, short memory - a perfect customer, bred by the corporate world.

 

[Save_Ferris]

You claimed Civs I and II were good games, but you didn't argue about their multiplayer... Civ, in my opinion, is meant for singleplayer. MP doesn't make too much sense in a TBS, anyways.

 

[bryanw1995]

I've never played any civ in multiplayer, but it does seem that civ 5 MP has gotten even less love than usual. Even things like hotseat, PBEM, etc I could at least theoretically play at some point if they're ever fixed.

 

[Zhahz]

Where's the SP only option and would rather see devs focus on SP and ditch MP entirely?

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