Er... who are you actually sending this to?
Also, Poland looks really out of place there, with all due respect to any Polish posters on here. I'd have the Maya/Inca in there instead, just so South America gets representation.
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Er... who are you actually sending this to?
Also, Poland looks really out of place there, with all due respect to any Polish posters on here. I'd have the Maya/Inca in there instead, just so South America gets representation.
Thor Macklin
Warlord
Okay well I genuinely think that either Bulgaria or Serbia be added to such
a list. but if to be realistic here, hungary and poland MUST be added.
But really I say wait for the maya.
a list. but if to be realistic here, hungary and poland MUST be added.
But really I say wait for the maya.
Mao wasn't in the Chinese versions of Civ. They had Taizong instead.
I think that the Papal States (Vatican City) would be an interesting civilization.
Leader:Could be generic Pope, Peter I (as first Pope), Pope Pius XI, Pope John Paul II
Ability: Call of the Faithful (friendlier relations with all neighboring civs) or
Longevity (+5 Production for every 500 years a city is around)
Unique Unit: Swiss Guard (tougher than Pikeman)
Unique Building: Cathedral instead of temple (+4 culture and +2 happiness)
One of the problems with this, though, would be a short city list.
Leader:Could be generic Pope, Peter I (as first Pope), Pope Pius XI, Pope John Paul II
Ability: Call of the Faithful (friendlier relations with all neighboring civs) or
Longevity (+5 Production for every 500 years a city is around)
Unique Unit: Swiss Guard (tougher than Pikeman)
Unique Building: Cathedral instead of temple (+4 culture and +2 happiness)
One of the problems with this, though, would be a short city list.
Shrinking_12
Chieftain
I guess they're just saving the "Age of Discovery" for the next expansion: Spain, Inca, Maya, Dutch, Portugal, Lakota.
So ignoring this I hope: Poland, Arawak, Korea (I know there's Seul but its not the same), Norse, and of course ZULU! (Even when I hate Shaka from Civ IV
).
And obviously! the civ I would Love to see is:
CIV: Mexican Empire (1824)
Leader: Agustín de Iturbide
UA: Viva México! (Extra happiness from Gold, Silver, Spices, Wine, Horses and Wheat)
UU: Zapatista -Calvary- (Ignores Terrain Costs,Starts with the promotion that gives bonus in Hills)
UB: Charreada -Colosseum- Gives 2
and +5 EXP to mounted units
But I Know that's only for Mods or a "Modern Civs " Expansion
, I also would Like Brazil, Australia and Bolivarian.
So ignoring this I hope: Poland, Arawak, Korea (I know there's Seul but its not the same), Norse, and of course ZULU! (Even when I hate Shaka from Civ IV
).And obviously! the civ I would Love to see is:
CIV: Mexican Empire (1824)
Leader: Agustín de Iturbide
UA: Viva México! (Extra happiness from Gold, Silver, Spices, Wine, Horses and Wheat)
UU: Zapatista -Calvary- (Ignores Terrain Costs,Starts with the promotion that gives bonus in Hills)
UB: Charreada -Colosseum- Gives 2
and +5 EXP to mounted unitsBut I Know that's only for Mods or a "Modern Civs " Expansion
, I also would Like Brazil, Australia and Bolivarian.Thor Macklin
Warlord
Mexico will never be added, we WILL get spain, and we already have the aztecs.
Sorry to inform you of this but it's what is the case.
Anyway, getting the info from the first page, here is the list of civs that have
ANY hope of getting in. Most others have no chance
Norse/Vikings
Spain
Mongols
Inca
Carthage
Maya
Portugal
Poland
Dutch
Ethiopia
Zulu
Polynesia
Byzantium
Khmer
Celts
Korea
Dutch
Hebrews
Austria
Hungary
Bulgaria
Sweden
Sorry to inform you of this but it's what is the case.
Anyway, getting the info from the first page, here is the list of civs that have
ANY hope of getting in. Most others have no chance
Norse/Vikings
Spain
Mongols
Inca
Carthage
Maya
Portugal
Poland
Dutch
Ethiopia
Zulu
Polynesia
Byzantium
Khmer
Celts
Korea
Dutch
Hebrews
Austria
Hungary
Bulgaria
Sweden
I suggest replacing Carthage for Phoenicia. At leas one civ should have the Poenicians...
Inca are pretty different form Maya and should be added soon. Mongol already are coming. Spain, of course, and they should come along a colonization feature (like granting independence in cIV for cities across the ocean and getting a vassal state). Norse, ok.
Portugal and Dutch also are a must have for colonization feature.
Khmer! They should return.
I just think there are to much europeans in your list, Thor Macklin, I wouldn't expect so many. Not like (Austria, Hungary, Sweden and Bulgaria), they're not irrevelant, but its just too many to put in a single game. I think we need a good representation of every continent.
Empires like Spain and Portugal should be considered as more than a one-continent empires, both are much more than just Iberian Peninsula.
Zulu, Ethiopia and maybe Carthage (still prefer Phonicia) should complement well the Egypts, Shongai and Arabians as representants of Africa., for example.
Inca are pretty different form Maya and should be added soon. Mongol already are coming. Spain, of course, and they should come along a colonization feature (like granting independence in cIV for cities across the ocean and getting a vassal state). Norse, ok.
Portugal and Dutch also are a must have for colonization feature.
Khmer! They should return.
I just think there are to much europeans in your list, Thor Macklin, I wouldn't expect so many. Not like (Austria, Hungary, Sweden and Bulgaria), they're not irrevelant, but its just too many to put in a single game. I think we need a good representation of every continent.
Empires like Spain and Portugal should be considered as more than a one-continent empires, both are much more than just Iberian Peninsula.
Zulu, Ethiopia and maybe Carthage (still prefer Phonicia) should complement well the Egypts, Shongai and Arabians as representants of Africa., for example.
Öjevind Lång
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Spain, Mongols, Zulu, perhaps the Dutch. I feel no desire for any others.
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Why not all three? They were/are drastically different from each other, and from west African civilizations sch as Mali and Songhai.
Apart from Spain, I think there are quite enough European civs in the game. I'm tired of the whining about how Poland/Denmark/Hungary/Portugal/Ireland must be included, and I'm European. I'm also fed up with people feeling bitter because Israel is not in the game. The Middle East is already represented by Egypt, Turkey and Arabia (and, arguably, Persia). That is quite enough.
Thor Macklin
Warlord
Poland/Denmark/Hungary/Portugal/Ireland
To me, Poland, POrtugal, and hungary are A MUST, why? because the profound
effects each country had on civilization CANNOT be outdone.
And even then, they happen to represent a large bit of ethnic groups that
aren't represented by others.
now for the people who whine about Isreal, just add jerusalem as a city state.
Denmark, Vikings
Ireland, hey I'm mostly irish and I still see no reason to add them. The vikings would
also be sufficient, so would the celts.
To me, Poland, POrtugal, and hungary are A MUST, why? because the profound
effects each country had on civilization CANNOT be outdone.
And even then, they happen to represent a large bit of ethnic groups that
aren't represented by others.
now for the people who whine about Isreal, just add jerusalem as a city state.
Denmark, Vikings
Ireland, hey I'm mostly irish and I still see no reason to add them. The vikings would
also be sufficient, so would the celts.
Shrinking_12
Chieftain
I did say that it couldn't be possible unless someone make a Mod and im not complaining about that. Anyway Spain its one I really want in the game.
@igor
Maos not in chinese? WOOT?
You didn't know that? The Chinese versions of Civs III and IV had Taizong instead of Mao.
Hmmm, I don't know, really. The impact of Carthage was sound, I agree. But the phoenicians were important. They're the father of our alphabet. They traveled through the oceans discovering new people. They also founded Carthage...
Yeah, maybe one then the other one.
This is the correct thread.
But I dont think you get my point. Im talking about representation. You want to put a bunch of eastern Europe nations. It's not that they are irrelevant, some had pivotal roles in very definitive moments of history. But what is their legacy, whta empire they built? Portugal, for example, is not just a piece of land in Iberian peninsula. They were an empire with huge influence not just on western world.
The impact Austria had on Europe wass enourmous, but the impact Spain, Portugal, Dutch and England, for example, had on the whole world is much bigger.
My opinion: instead of putting Austria, Hungary and Poland, put the Huns.
I agree. Spain should come first. IMO, Spain should be in vanila version with Portugal coming soon, but this doesnt matter now...
My opinion. All of them were important. However, Poland should give place to the Huns, very important civ who never appeared in a Civ game, as far as I know. Maya, very important, but could wait, we already have Aztecs and Inca should come first. One of the African nations, Ethiopia or Zulu. Shaka is a classical leader, like Monty.
The other 3 are perfect for me.
I vote for Zulu.
Thor Macklin
Warlord
The huns DID have a major impact on history, but their empire COLLAPSED ENTIRELY
with NO SUCCESOR only 2 years after attila died. The huns, if I am correct. Were
a mongol empire. Besides, there is very little known about them.
But the hungarians were also turkic horsemen, but they are a stronger
european representative of european mongol nation then the Huns are.
with NO SUCCESOR only 2 years after attila died. The huns, if I am correct. Were
a mongol empire. Besides, there is very little known about them.
But the hungarians were also turkic horsemen, but they are a stronger
european representative of european mongol nation then the Huns are.
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There were a few "eastern" invasions in Europe. Think about the Avars, the Bulgars, the Huns, the Magyar and ofcourse the Golden Horde.
But I fear I must say that the influence on history by Poland and Hungary is very local. While I would really like to play them, they do not deserve a spot in Civilization 5.
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The Hungarians were not Turkic. Turkic means speaking a Turkic language, such as Turkish, Kazakh or Uzbek. The Hungarians are Magyars, speaking a Fenno-Ugric language related to Finnish, Estonian, Sami and some very small languages still clinging on in northern Russia.
Winged Hussar
Warlord
I think the first expansion should be the "age of discovery" civs - Spain and Portugal, along with some "new world" civs.
But, Poland should make the cut in future DLCs...
Copernicus (in the game already, along with Marie Curie Slodowska), a style of government first of its kind, 2nd US-style constitution in the world, huge chunk of europe at one point - and when it comes to strategy games, a unique unit which seems to have captured many a gamer's imagination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OoSdnebLxw
But, Poland should make the cut in future DLCs...
Copernicus (in the game already, along with Marie Curie Slodowska), a style of government first of its kind, 2nd US-style constitution in the world, huge chunk of europe at one point - and when it comes to strategy games, a unique unit which seems to have captured many a gamer's imagination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OoSdnebLxw
