Department of Foreign Affairs - Term 3

[chiefpaco]

The new opinion polls are being posted. This will again identify our fellow nations as defined by Foreign Policy. Please consider carefully before voting, as this will determine our perspective for the remainder of the term and possibly part of next term too.

I wish I could have written a little blurb on each civ, but have decided against, for the following reasons:

1. Time - It would take me ages to compile a history on 9 civs.
2. Bias - I could not easily present a fair representation of each civ.
3. Realism - It is up to the individual to consider the actions of other civs, and do research if they are undecided. Perhaps it may be realistic that long ago events may be washed from our memories.
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   That said, I will be happy to assist those searching for answers. Please vote so we may gain an accurate opinion on our fellow nations.
   
   Note that England will not be repolled. That poll was posted as soon as we met them only a few turns ago, during Term 3. When the results of these polls are tabulated (probably by the end of this week) England's votes will be retabulated to update their score.

 

[chiefpaco]

I didn't notice this before and will add this to my turn reports:

Foreign Trade Embargos

[B]Rome[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Greece     Iroquois
Iroquois   Greece (yes, they do)

[B]Greece[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Rome       Iroquois
Aztecs     Iroquois
Zulu       Iroquois

[B]Iroquois[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Rome       Greece
Aztecs     India
Babylon    India

[B]Zulu[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
India      Iroquois
Greece     Iroquois

[B]India[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Zulu       Iroquois

[B]Babylon[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Iroquois   India

[B]Aztecs[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Greece     Iroquois
Iroquois   India

 

[eyrei]

I really hate it when all civs gang up on one other one. I am tempted to begin advocating an aggressive stance towards any nation that declares war on the Iroquois, as it doesn't seem like they did anything to deserve this.

 

[chiefpaco]

Please share your views regarding the FA's next turn proposal and the current crisis of the Iroquois:

Foreign Affairs Proposal for June 18 Turn

Commitment to Iroquois

 

[chiefpaco]

Foreign Relations
Gracious: None
Polite: India, England, Zulu
Cautious: None
Annoyed: Greece, Iroquois, China, Babylon, Rome
Furious: Aztecs

ROP Agreements
(nation, turns left, gpt to us)
Zulu, 0, 0
India, 0, 0
England, 0, 0
Iroquois, 11, 0
Greece, 11, 3
Rome, 0, 0

Other Foreign Pacts
Greece declared war on Iroquois in 1315AD, still continuing.
India declared war on Iroquois via MPP in the following year. Peace negotiated in 1370AD.
China and Iroquois allied against Greece in 1365AD. Hence China declared war on Greece in 1365AD.
Rome and China allied against Greece in 1365AD. Hence Rome declared war on Greece in 1365AD.
India declared war on China in 1365AD (MPP with Greece likely cause).

FA Spending
(Nation, amount, turns to expire)
Iroquois, 1gpt, 11

Foreign Governments
Democracy: England, Rome, Greece, Zulu, China, Babylon, India, Aztecs
Communism: Iroquois
Anarchy: Greece

Foreign Trade Embargos

[B]Rome[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Iroquois   Greece
China      India

[B]Greece[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Zulu       Rome
Zulu       Iroquois
Aztecs     Iroquois

[B]Iroquois[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Rome       Greece
Aztecs     India
Babylon    India

[B]Zulu[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
India      Iroquois
Greece     Iroquois
Greece     Rome
China      Greece

[B]India[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Zulu       Iroquois
Babylon    China

[B]Babylon[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Iroquois   India
India      China

[B]Aztecs[/B]
[I]With       Against[/I]
Greece     Iroquois
Iroquois   India

[B]China[/B]
Zulu       Greece
Rome       India

 

[Shaitan]

I propose that Greece be reranked from Able Partner to Suspect Nation. Their slaughter of the civilians in Tyendenaga was an atrocity of the worst sort and we must not be seen to sympathize with such scum.

 

[chiefpaco]

Proposal accepted. Ranks will be decided again however, for the next chat though.

 

[donsig]

Turn 0
Trade Embargo Greece with straight-up deals with:
China, Babylon, Iroquois, Rome, Zulu

Can we do this while we have current trade agreements with Greece? Do we risk losing our current income from Greece or worse, do we risk war? I think Greece is still paying for medicine (44 gpt).

 

[Shaitan]

Originally posted by donsig


Can we do this while we have current trade agreements with Greece? Do we risk losing our current income from Greece or worse, do we risk war? I think Greece is still paying for medicine (44 gpt).

Signing a trade embargo will break any deal that you have that has a resource involved. It does not affect deals that have only money, diplomatic concerns and/or technology involved.

 

[donsig]

Whew - I was worried for a minute!

We did cancel our luxury exports to Greece during the last turn chat.

 

[chiefpaco]

Furthermore, it would only restrict our luxury and resource trading with Greece. We could still trade technology, gold, and sign a MPP with them, if we wanted to.

 

[chiefpaco]

Foreign Relations
Gracious: None
Polite: India, England, Zulu
Cautious: Rome
Annoyed: Iroquois, China, Babylon, Aztecs
Furious: Greece

ROP Agreements
(nation, turns left, gpt to us)
Zulu, 0, 0
India, 0, 0
England, 0, 0
Iroquois, 3, 0
Greece, 3, 3
Rome, 0, 0

Trade Embargos
We signed against, with, turns left
Greece, (Zulu, China, Iroquois, Rome, Babylon), 12
Greece, (England, Aztecs), 17

Other Foreign Pacts
Greece declared war on Iroquois in 1315AD. Peace agreed in 1390AD.
China and Iroquois allied against Greece in 1365AD. Hence China declared war on Greece in 1365AD.
Rome and China allied against Greece in 1365AD. Hence Rome declared war on Greece in 1365AD.
India declared war on China in 1365AD (MPP with Greece likely cause).
Babylon allied with Iroquois against Greece in 1370AD. Hence Babylon declared war on Greece in 1370AD.
England and Iroquois signed MPP agreement in 1385AD.
Babylon and Aztecs signed MPP agreement in 1385AD.
England declared war on Greece via MPP in 1385AD.
Aztecs declared war on Greece in 1400AD.
Babylon is at war with Greece, via MPP? (1385AD?)

FA Spending
(Nation, amount, turns to expire)
Iroquois, 1gpt, 3, 3gpt, 12

Foreign Governments
Democracy: England, Rome, Greece, Zulu, China, Babylon, India, Aztecs
Communism: Iroquois, Greece

Foreign Trade Embargos
Target - Nations embargoing

Rome - Greece, Zulu

Greece - Phoenatica, China, England, Rome, Iroquois, Aztecs, Babylon, Zulu

Iroquois - Greece, India, Zulu

India - Iroquois, Babylon, Aztecs, China

Aztecs - Greece, India

China - Rome, India, Babylon, Zulu

 

[chiefpaco]

I'll be away much of this weekend (21st-23rd). Padma shall have full power over FA duties, should he be available.

Thanks to Padma and thanks to all,
cp

Please citizens! Vote on whether we should war with Greece!

War with Greece!

 

[Zur]

Eyrei: I really hate it when all civs gang up on one other one. I am tempted to begin advocating an aggressive stance towards any nation that declares war on the Iroquois, as it doesn't seem like they did anything to deserve this.

Vultures they are. They gang up on the weak. As a defender of justice, we must play our part in the global balance accordingly.

 

[chiefpaco]

The latest opinion polls have been tabulated. Thank you for your co-operation. Please refer to post#1 in this thread to find the new opinions.

Here is another link to the scoring sheet I used.
Public Opinion Results

 

[chiefpaco]

Foreign Relations
Gracious: None
Polite: India, England, Zulu
Cautious: None
Annoyed: Iroquois, China, Babylon, Aztecs, Rome
Furious: Greece

ROP Agreements
(nation, turns left, gpt to us)
Zulu, 0, 0
India, 0, 0
England, 0, 0
Iroquois, 0, 0
Greece, 0, 3
Rome, 0, 0

Trade Embargos
We signed against, with, turns left
Greece, (Zulu, China, Iroquois, Rome, Babylon), 2
Greece, (England, Aztecs), 7

Other Foreign Pacts
China declared war on Greece in 1365AD (with Iroquois alliance). Peace achieved in 1425 AD.
Rome declared war on Greece in 1365AD (with Chinese alliance).
India declared war on China in 1365AD (MPP with Greece likely cause).
Babylon declared war on Greece in 1370AD (with Iroquois alliance).
England and Iroquois signed MPP agreement in 1385AD.
Babylon and Aztecs signed MPP agreement in 1385AD.
England declared war on Greece via MPP with Iroquois in 1385AD.
Aztecs declared war on Greece in 1400AD.
Rome and India allied against China in 1430AD. Hence Rome declared war on China in 1430AD.
Aztecs and India allied against China in 1445AD. Hence Aztecs declared war on China in 1445AD.

FA Spending
(Nation, amount, turns to expire)
Iroquois, 3gpt, 2

Foreign Governments
Democracy: England, Greece, Zulu, China, Iroquois, India, Aztecs
Communism: Greece, Babylon
Anarchy: Rome

 

[Falcon02]

Chief, maybe you should redo the Foreign status polls, since the current situation has shifted Public opinion a bit for certian civilizations.

 

[chiefpaco]

Originally posted by Falcon02
Chief, maybe you should redo the Foreign status polls, since the current situation has shifted Public opinion a bit for certian civilizations.

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean public opinion polls? Those I just repolled last week and reset a couple days ago.

 

[Shaitan]

Council Vote in session

chiefpaco, please cast your vote in the Council Vote to approve new Provincial Borders.

 

[chiefpaco]

At War with
Greece declared war on us in 1480 AD.

Foreign Relations
Gracious: None
Polite: India, Iroquois, England, Zulu, Rome
Cautious: None
Annoyed: China, Babylon, Aztecs
Furious: None
Greece does not acknowledge our envoy.

ROP Agreements
(nation, turns left, gpt to us)
Zulu, 0, 0
India, 0, 0
England, 0, 0
Iroquois, 0, 0
Rome, 0, 0

Trade Embargos
We signed against, with, turns left
Greece, (Zulu, China, Iroquois, Rome, Babylon), 1
Greece, (England, Aztecs), 6

Other Foreign Pacts
Rome declared war on Greece in 1365AD (with Chinese alliance).
India declared war on China in 1365AD (MPP with Greece likely cause).
Babylon declared war on Greece in 1370AD (with Iroquois alliance).
England and Iroquois signed MPP agreement in 1385AD.
England declared war on Greece via MPP with Iroquois in 1385AD. Peace achieved in 1480AD.
Aztecs declared war on Greece in 1400AD. Peace achieved in 1480AD.
Rome and India allied against China in 1430AD. Hence Rome declared war on China in 1430AD.
Aztecs and India allied against China in 1445AD. Hence Aztecs declared war on China in 1445AD.

FA Spending
(Nation, amount, turns to expire)
Iroquois, 3gpt, 1, 5gpt, 19

Foreign Governments
Democracy: England, Zulu, Iroquois, India, Aztecs
Republic: Rome
Communism: Greece, Babylon
Anarchy: China