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not all civilizations have unique units. unique units don't have an advantage over other units -- they are simply unique to the civilization.
Discussions about the different Civ bonuses
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not all civilizations have unique units. unique units don't have an advantage over other units -- they are simply unique to the civilization.
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that's true, that's one of the civilization bonuses, though, not a unit bonus!
bonafide11
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Not all Civs have unique units? And unique units aren't better than other units? What makes them unique then? So does every Civ have all the exact same units, but some have different names?
robcheng
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I think she means that unique units aren't modifications of standard units like in Civ 3/4. For example, in Civ 3/4 the Egyptian War Chariot was a modification of the standard chariot unit. But in Civ Rev, perhaps there are no chariots at all, so if Egypt had a War Chariot unique unit, it would truly be "unique".
Its just the name and the graphics (3d model) to get a better variety of graphics I guess.
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The unique units appear to be just civ specific units, where a universal unit has its name and graphical work changed, tomkae it a civ specific unit but with the same stats.
So unique units shouldn't be taken into consideration when choosing you civ, as in previous games, an interesting change.
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Its not official but here are some bonuses that where out there for some time now
From this and the official bonuses that rolled out i see Egypt lost its +50 wonder production and they just gave them a free one to start. India went from not needing the tech to use the resource to requiring the tech at least thats what my opinion is
Yes i know there the old ones but they might give us insight to what the others might be, since the ones released and the old ones are very similar they might not be too far off base.
Well so far they look right they just came out with russia and japan
Well so far they look right they just came out with russia and japan
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I want to find England's bonuses, where can I find them?
Thoughts:
1) If bonuses don't carry over through the ages, I see some of them being not overly useful. For example, the egyptian bonus of +2 to food during the ancient age. What happens if you move into the classical age and now your cities become stagnant or worse, enter starvation mode due to lack of food? I imagnie it won't effect every game, but should have an impact, espically on arid maps
2) Factories providing 3x more production seems a tad over the top. Guess it's good if you like fighting later wars though. If your fighting america though you better take it out early.
3)What wonder does egypt start with? Do you get to pick and choose?
4) If not every civ has unique units, and unique units don't provide any bonuses over normal units...whats the point in having unique units excatly?
5) American Great person randomly chosen? Or do you get to pick and choose? Seems pretty powerful.
1) If bonuses don't carry over through the ages, I see some of them being not overly useful. For example, the egyptian bonus of +2 to food during the ancient age. What happens if you move into the classical age and now your cities become stagnant or worse, enter starvation mode due to lack of food? I imagnie it won't effect every game, but should have an impact, espically on arid maps
2) Factories providing 3x more production seems a tad over the top. Guess it's good if you like fighting later wars though. If your fighting america though you better take it out early.
3)What wonder does egypt start with? Do you get to pick and choose?
4) If not every civ has unique units, and unique units don't provide any bonuses over normal units...whats the point in having unique units excatly?
5) American Great person randomly chosen? Or do you get to pick and choose? Seems pretty powerful.
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June 3rd in any gaming shop.
1) Bonuses do carry over to every age
3) My guess is it will be random, but i suppose either is possible
4) What's the point in having every unit exactly the same.
If your going to put the effort into making unique units to give the game more flavor and depth, actually do that and make the units unique to each civ. Just giving it a different graphic and name and keeping the same stats as the equivalent non-unique unit is pointless.
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changing the anme and graphic of a unit is enough to give the civ's a different feel.
The civs are already very different, including unique units that also have unique stats, will not only make your civs harder to choose, but will also limit the amount of UU's to each civ, and make balancing the different civ's harder than it needs to be.
The civs are already very different, including unique units that also have unique stats, will not only make your civs harder to choose, but will also limit the amount of UU's to each civ, and make balancing the different civ's harder than it needs to be.
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They added a lot of depth and strategy with the civ bonuses, more than enough to account for the loss of depth and strategy that comes from removing unique units or rather blandenising unique units.
The Civ bonuses have made each Civ far more unique then any of the other Civ games.
Simply put the Civs in Civ 3, and Civ 4 were not very unique or historical. This problem looks to be solved now. With major huge bonuses like America getting 3x production from facotires in the modern age, India having access to all resources, and Mongols getting 50% extra trade from captured cities. This will make playing as different Civs a very unique experience.
Simply put the Civs in Civ 3, and Civ 4 were not very unique or historical. This problem looks to be solved now. With major huge bonuses like America getting 3x production from facotires in the modern age, India having access to all resources, and Mongols getting 50% extra trade from captured cities. This will make playing as different Civs a very unique experience.
Martinus
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As others already answered, the bonuses carry over. Furthermore, there is no starvation in the game and the tile gains represent only the stuff you need to grow.
