[NFP] Domination Victory Elimination Thread

[Arithmion]

Alexander/Macedon [19] 18+1 Literally all of his bonuses are geared toward war.
Amanitore/Nubia [16]
Catherine/France [15]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [15]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
Jayavarman/Khmer [6]
John Curtain/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lady Six Sky/Maya [0] Eliminated. Good Civ, fun to play as, but actively discouraged from expansion. She is unlikely to take any enemy that is across an ocean. Also any game where you start next to the coast is probably not going to be a win for most people.
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [18]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [15]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [3]
Saladin/Arabia [15]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [17]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [23]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Tamar/Georgia [3]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[The Highwayman]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [16]
Catherine/France [15]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [15]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
Jayavarman/Khmer [6]
John Curtain/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19] [18+1] The classical rush is amazing - you just need 200 gold to start. The opportunity cost is locking down 1 suze, which isn't unrealistic to get and keep. Lasts the whole game as long as you can keep making the $$$ to re-up the levy.
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [15]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [3]
Saladin/Arabia [15]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [17]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [23]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Tamar/Georgia [ELIMINATED] [3-3] Nothing in the kit suggests she has any real advantage on offense. Walls are great for D at least.
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[BenitoChavez]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [16]
Catherine/France [15]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [15]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
Jayavarman/Khmer [3] = 6 - 3. No bonuses to war and the UU is pretty weak.
John Curtain/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [15]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [3]
Saladin/Arabia [15]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [17]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [24] = 23 + 1. By far the most powerful civ in all aspects except maybe diplo. This shouldn't even be close
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Jewelrunna]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17] (16 +1). The Pítati Archer is the best unique unit in the game, full stop. It's extremely hard to stop a rush of these, which Nubia can do because they get a bonus to building them. Even beyond that, a bonus to building ranged units is really good throughout the whole game. They should not be in the same conversation as Chandragupta and Teddy.
Catherine/France [15]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [15]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
Jayavarman/Khmer [ELIMINATED] (3 - 0). Just gonna put this one out of its misery, because the Civ is pretty bad in general. Domrey is cool, but impractical in most circumstances. Let's move on.
John Curtain/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [15]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [3]
Saladin/Arabia [15]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [17]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [24]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Kmart_Elvis]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16] (15+1) She gets a really strong and consistent CS bonus. She starts off with +3 CS, across the board, with any other civ. If you have a Special Agent do listening post missions against a target civ, that's an additional +6, bringing it up to +9. That's for everything - melee, cavalry, navy, etc. And you can fight anywhere and at any time. It's not for just 10 turns, or just on your continent, or against civs in a golden age.
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [12] (15-3) On the other hand, France's alt leader isn't as hot. France itself doesn't have much going in way of domination, except for Catherine's cool spy/diplomatic visibility bonuses. Technically she can conquer other cities without firing a shot, but it comes very late in the game and is more of a gimmick.
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtain/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [15]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [3]
Saladin/Arabia [15]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [17]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [24]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Equilin]

What? Why does a science civ like Maya get out early? Science = better units = faster to late-game quick domination (bombers). Why is the Maya out before Georgia or Sweden or China or Brazil? Their bonuses allow turtle into dom better than others with direct science/culture bonuses (sans Korea maybe), and it's really for dom victory not some short early conquest either.

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [12]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15] Is the misspelling on his name intentional?
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12] (15-3) What? you're getting a refund upon recruiting GG or GAdm? That's not needed. The rest of the bonuses only help in science/culture which is indirectly dom, but not much.
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [3]
Saladin/Arabia [15]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [17]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25] (24+1) a welcome to the newest addition of civ, with GG stacking, movement bonuses, free GGs here and there
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Josephias]

I think I will give it a go:

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [12]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [12]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Robert the Bruce/Scotland [0] (3-3) ELIMINATED. Another of the early underescorers that goes out. As commented Enlightment suffers from war, and bonuses to wars of liberation isn't what you expect when you are the conqueror. Personally, I've struggled getting scottish military to be on par with other civs when playing as Robert.
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18] (17+1). On the other hand, and ignoring Bolivar (haven't played it yet)... oh, my! Shaka and the Zuls make war easy. Once you are rolling, you can actually triple your army on the go with a clever use of Isibongo, and half-priced ikandas are hepful to give you a go at the start... and on the long run... was it a bug, or corps and armies can be cheaper to build than single units?
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12][/QUOTE]

 

[Leucarum]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [12]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18] (17+1) Somewhat outclassed recently but he's still a solid warmonger.
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [15]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9] (12-3) Russia is better served going for an RV or CV than domination. Particularly now that Cavalry have lost some of their edge with the changes to walls/rams.
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[kryat]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [9] (12-3) I guess it helps being able to mop up loose cities after conquest, but there’s very little here to help take cities in the first place. Slowly taking over the world by loyalty can win a domination game, but sadly, the military is a much more efficient and reliable way to do it.
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16] (15+1) There’s definitely better warmongers on this list, but there’s many, many, who do it worse than Gorgo. She has a great incentive to always be fighting, watching little numbers pop up whenever something dies. Free wildcard slot means running more red cards too.
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [9]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[enKage]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [16]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [6] (9-3) France is weak civ in general and while Catherine has some strength buffs from diplovisibility, this lady offers nothing
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10] 9+1 Time to level up injustice. Don't be mistaken by peaceful design. If there is victory condition Cree are below average civ, it is religious and mainly tourism. 1) Potential for 40 strength ancient unit and it is not so hard to reach one or two level3 Okihctitaws. And this means death to at least one neighbour before the end of classical as you don't fear Xbows anymore 2) Higher production than average civs as you don't care about growth and housing 3) Once you hit cartography (obvious Cree beeline) what happens before the end of classical, you swim in gold for easy upgrades and buying units (or buying infrastructure while building units) 4) You know whole map somewhere around end of classical/ beginning medieval, so can manage domination route better 5) Easy counter of loyality pressure, just get a trader. Not top15, but there are so many weak domi civs left at 15 points, that I have to fix it
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[The Highwayman]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17] [16+1] Not nearly as good as Simon now, but Fall of Babylon can be heavily exploited throughout the game. The Immortal is almost a best of both worlds melee and ranged unique. Internal trading and tile improvement supplement culture and gold. Well above average I believe.
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3] [6-3] Loyalty flipping is an impractical way to dominate the map. Catherine's ability is much better. Come to think of it, so are all the others that remain.
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [4]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [19]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[bengalryan9]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [12]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [1] (4-3) She's another leader where if you go for domination you are essentially ignoring her strengths. I suppose Caroleans have some use but it's not a huge window of opportunity and you'll either need to invest heavily in anti-cavalry ahead of time or hard build them.
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10] People have a huge tendency to exaggerate how easy it is to get the ambush promotion with recon units... it's not, and it's even harder when we're talking about scouts where you'd have to get there early. Okis get a free promotion, but it doesn't really change anything because it just means they won't be leveling up on barbarian units like a normal scout would. You still need to get those second and third promotions through exploration and or attacking another civilization, just like you would with a normal scout. In a perfect world I guess you could get *some* use out of them towards domination, but there are so many other UUs or abilities available on this list that give you better results with way less work. Their civ and leader abilities offer very little when it comes to domination, and the mekewap isn't enough to save them here. I'm spreading my downvotes around at this point, but the Cree are certainly deserving.
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [20] (19+1) Janissaries are great as is the extra governor, plus you get stronger/easier to produce siege weaponry and help with loyalty. Strong.
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [15]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Weraptor]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [15]
Gandhi/India [9] (12-3) Surely Gandhi has better focus than petty war. He gets a boost to faith for every empire at peace that founded a religion, right?
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [1] At least Caroleans are somewhat decent with proper preparation.
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16] (15+1) Also a great choice for a domination snowball.
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[MarigoldRan]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16] [15+1]. +18 Hansa easily. +24 Hansa if you're good. +30 Hansa potentially. Commercial districts also provide money for unit upgrades.
Gandhi/India [9]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kristina/Sweden [1-3 = ELIMINATED] They're a culture civ, not a domination civ.
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [6]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Equilin]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [16]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16]
Gandhi/India [9]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [3] (6-3) the only bonus that contribute to dom are extra build charge and builder into terracotta (i dont think there are other early wonders that contribute much to dom) which are very indirect and small, plus defensive UI/UU and they get my downvote
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [21] (20+1) siege units have become increasingly important and so do his bonuses to them, and some other bonuses to assist in conquest as well
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Francel]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [17] (16+1) - Elvis maybe a great point about Catherine. The combat bonus is consistent and can be increased even higher.
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16]
Gandhi/India [6] (9-3) - I think he deserves to be downvoted, because his abilities are maximized when he is not at war; plus, there are no specific combat advantages beyond the UU
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kupe/Maori [15]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [12]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [3]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Drivingrevilo]

Good to see another one of these threads - something to pass time with under lockdown!

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [17]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16]
Gandhi/India [6]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kupe/Maori [16] (15+1) I don’t think he’s actually the best (Hungary or Persia get that nod for me), but since no one has mentioned him I thought I’d start with Kupe. It may seem that peaceful Tourism is the way to go, but boy can Kupe do aggression. Instant access to Galleys & Quadriremes, huge production boost to almost any city he founds, and an absolutely terrifying unique unit, the Toa. Sure, it arrives a tech later, but i.) it doesn’t require iron, ii.) it can be pre-built & upgraded from warriors, iii.) it has the most consistently powerful bonus, I.e. weakens adjacent troops by 5 strength, and iv.) as if it needed anything else, it can pop down a Pā fort when in trouble. Settle capital, immediately produce a few ships, find your nearest & weakest neighbour, and swarm them with Archers & Toa. Bam, you’ve got your domination snowball going.
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [9] (12-3) He has the slowest early game of any Civ, so you’re not going to be doing early conquering. And although he is certainly capable of sweeping the map in the late game - instant buying tank armies with gold, anyone? - it still isn’t really advisable. His whole playstyle revolves around international trading, and what’s the one thing you can’t do when at war with the whole world? International trading.
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [3]
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[Leucarum]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [17]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [15]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16]
Gandhi/India [6]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kupe/Maori [16]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [9]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Qin Shi Huang/China [0] (3-3 Eliminated) It's not that China can't dominate. With extra builder charges, eurekas and a few well placed wonders they can do just anout anything... But there are victory conditions which they are much better suited for (all of the others) hence my downvote here.
Seondeok/Korea [15]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [22] (21+1) Finally got around to trying out the ottomans a few weeks ago in an MP and they are a lot more fun than I expected! Also damn good at domination...
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[TCBB]

To me, voting for Gran Colombia in its current state feels wrong. Let’s be honest: the great general / commandante generale stacking is going to be nerfed at the next patch. So is it really fair to include Bolivar here....?

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [17]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [12] Like every Civ, you can definitely achieve domination as Cleo if you really wanted to. In this regard, it’s worth stating that Maryannu archers are a solid unit for early warfare. However, it’s more a question whether you‘re incentivised to go domination. And for Cleo, you’ll have a much easier time of it pursuing other victory types. In particular, declaring war on the world means they can’t trade with you, ruling out one of Egypt’s most powerful bonuses. All in all, she’s much better suited to a peaceful playstyle than a warmongering one.
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16]
Gandhi/India [6]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [18]
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kupe/Maori [16]
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [9]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Seondeok/Korea [16] The best Civ for a reason. With science as good as Seondeok’s, you’ll reach Musketmen, Hwacha, and Cuirassiers while the AI still has Swordsmen, and you’ll reach Tanks while theyre still rolling around with Pikemen. Unstoppable.
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [22]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]

 

[kryat]

Alexander/Macedon [19]
Amanitore/Nubia [17]
Catherine/France [17]
Chandragupta/India [16]
Cleopatra/Egypt [12]
Cyrus/Persia [17]
Dido/Phoenicia [15]
Eleanor/France [3]
Eleanor/England [15]
Frederick/Germany [16]
Gandhi/India [6]
Genghis Khan/Mongolia [19] (18+1) A bit obvious, but he’s one of the few that can give Bolívar a run for his money. The spycraft to get his best bonuses is fun too.
Gilgamesh/Sumeria [16]
Gitarja/Indonesia [15]
Gorgo/Greece [16]
Harald Hardrada/Norway [16]
Hojo Tokimune/Japan [16]
Jadwiga/Poland [12]
John Curtin/Australia [15]
Kupe/Maori [13] (16-3) I don’t see Kupe as great for domination. The toa are great for a while, and he’s ok for a while on archipelago, but Kupe lacks the punch many others have.
Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
Mansa Musa/Mali [9]
Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [19]
Montezuma/Aztec [16]
Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [15]
Pachacuti/Inca [13]
Pedro/Brazil [12]
Pericles/Greece [15]
Peter/Russia [9]
Philip/Spain [16]
Poundmaker/Cree [10]
Seondeok/Korea [16]
Shaka/Zulu [18]
Simón Bolívar/Gran Colombia [25]
Suleiman/Ottomans [22]
Teddy Roosevelt/America [16]
Tomyris/Scythia [16]
Trajan/Rome [16]
Victoria/England [15]
Wilhelmina/Netherlands [12]