Drafting a constitution

To amend the constitution
1) Any citizen has the right to put forward a motion to amend the constitution.
2) Any citizen can call for a motion to amend the constitution; and for it to be legal, either the original forwarder or the seconder must be a Founder citizen.
3) The motion is then put to all citizens of MIA for a vote; a majority of 2/3 votes of the population deem the amendment passed.
4) The constitution is then amended and becomes law.
 
some of this depends on the turns in a term. So i designated it using slashes (i.e. 20/25) the first is assuming a 20 turn term, and the 2nd a 25 turn one.

7)The election process
a) during turns 15/20 a thread shall be opened for nominations. Any citizen may nominate any other citizen, inculding themselves, for any position that is up for election. The nominee then must accept the nomination.
b)on turn 18/23 a poll shall be held for each position, with the names of every nominee that accepted. The poll must be open for 48 hours, although it is recomended it is open for 72. A simple majority is required to elect someone to a position; not including abstains.
c)Once turn 20/25 ends, a new term has begun and the new leaders shall take their positions.
d)any tie shall be broken by the sitting Team Captain, unless the Team captain is running in said election, in which case the tie shall be broken by the President. If both the President and Team Captain are running the tie shall be broken by a simple majority of the Foreign, Defense and Domestic Minister.

8) No person may hold the same elected office 2 terms in a row or hold more than 1 office at the same time, except in cases where the position would otherwise not be filled.

9)In the event the President resigns or cannot play the save on a certain day, the line of sucession shall be:
Team Captain
Domestic Minister
Defence Minister
Foreign Minister.

10)If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President shall appoint a replacement, subject to the same regulations provided in Artcile III section 8.

11)Any leader can delegate powers of their office as they see fit, as long as the delegation does not conflict with any other rules
 
at this point, all sections have been written. Barring any more changes or requests for changes The following should be put to poll in about 24 hours:

Article I - The Constitution

1)This constitution shall govern the manner in which Team Missing in Action (M.I.A.) makes decsions, and acts upon them in order to play our turn of the save provided to us in through the Multi-Team DemoGame (MTDG).

2)This constitution shall regulate all members of M.I.A. and have no weight in the proceedings of other teams, nor the administrators of the MTDG. When there is a conflict percieved between this constitution an the constitution of the MTDG, The MTDG constitution shall overule the constitution of M.I.A.

Article II - Citizens

1)A citizen shall be defined as any person who has joined M.I.A. and has not withdrawn from the game.

2)A citizen of M.I.A. is made up of the following classes - Founder, Natural and Refugee, and also a Resident.

2.a)A Founder citizen is defined as a person who has joined M.I.A. before the first turn has been played, and has not withdrawn from the game. [once the game starts we'll use a date]

2.b)A Natural citizen is defined as a person who has joined M.I.A. after the first turn has been played, and has not withdrawn from the game. [once the game starts we'll use a date]

2.c)A Refugee is defined as a person, who was originally a citizen of another team, who has joined M.I.A., and has not withdrawn from the game.

2.d)A Resident citizen is defined as a Lurker or a Refugee. These citizens may engage in discussion and vote in general polls, but not vote in elections.

3.)Any Refugee who wishes to become a Natural citizen may ask the President Or Team Captain to sponsor them to become Naturalised and gain the right to vote and to hold office. If either agrees, a poll shall be taken among the remaining Founders. After 72 hours if a majority of votes cast favour the naturalization of the refugee, that person shall be defined as a Natural citizen with all the rights that title holds.

4) Once refugees have joined M.I.A., for any refugee to be elected to office that refugee get 1 Founder of M.I.A. to sponsor his candidacy, and must have at least 1/5 of the votes from the Natural citizens of team M.I.A.

5)All Citizens have the right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right to free speech, the right to a fair trial, the right to representation, the right to demand satisfaction and the right to vote in general polls.

Article III- leadership

1) The president shall be the designated player; meaning Hhe plays the save. When playing the save he has the responsibility to carry out the decsions of other leaders. He is responsible for workers, city management, and powers and responsibilities not specified to other leaders. This position shall be elected every term.

2)The Team captain shall Represent our Team in the UN, Shall maintain order in the team. This position shall be elected every other term.

3)The Domestic Minister shall be Responsible for settlement, sliders, research, wonders, and government changes, and all duties and powers affecting the economy not specified to other leaders. This position Shall be elected every term.

4)The Defense Misister is responible for all miltary units. He is reponsible for the building, upgrading and the placement of units. This position shall be elected every term.

5)The foreign Minister Acts for a Diplomat when one is absent or someone cannot fill the position; Determines trades and declarations of war, peace, alliances, and MPP. All dealings with other nataions must be approved by the minister. He appoints a single diplomat to every remaining team, unless he cannot find anyone willing to fill the position. This position shall be elected every term.

6)The Diplomats to other teams are appointed by the Foreign minister. They shall be responsible for discussions and trades with other teams.

7)The election process
a) during turns 15/20 a thread shall be opened for nominations. Any citizen may nominate any other citizen, inculding themselves, for any position that is up for election. The nominee then must accept the nomination.
b)on turn 18/23 a poll shall be held for each position, with the names of every nominee that accepted. The poll must be open for 48 hours, although it is recomended it is open for 72. A simple majority is required to elect someone to a position; not including abstains.
c)Once turn 20/25 ends, a new term has begun and the new leaders shall take their positions.
d)any tie shall be broken by the sitting Team Captain, unless the Team captain is running in said election, in which case the tie shall be broken by the President. If both the President and Team Captain are running the tie shall be broken by a simple majority of the Foreign, Defense and Domestic Minister.

8) No person may hold the same elected office 2 terms in a row or hold more than 1 office at the same time, except in cases where the position would otherwise not be filled.

9)In the event the President resigns or cannot play the save on a certain day, the line of sucession shall be:
Team Captain
Domestic Minister
Defence Minister
Foreign Minister.

10)If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President shall appoint a replacement, subject to the same regulations provided in Artcile III section 8.

11)Any leader can delegate powers of their office as they see fit, as long as the delegation does not conflict with any other rules

Arctile IV - Ratifying and amending the Constitution

1)This constitution Shall take effect once a poll has been taken of all citizens of M.I.A. This poll must be open for 72 hours, anonymous, obtain a 2/3 majority in favor (not including absatians) of adopting, and at least 50% of citizens must vote (including abstains).

2)Ameding the consititution
a) Any citizen has the right to put forward a motion to amend the constitution.
b) Any citizen can call for a motion to amend the constitution; and for it to be legal, either the original forwarder or the seconder must be a Founder citizen.
c) The motion is then put to all citizens of MIA for a vote; a majority of 2/3 votes of the population deem the amendment passed. The poll must be open for 72 hours and have at least 50% of citizens who voted in the last contested election vote.
d) The constitution is then amended and becomes law.
 
Took the liberty of spell checking, fixing gramma, slightly rewording and adding a couple of minor clauses.
ie. Article III - 2 and Article IV - 2 - Section e


Article I - The Constitution.

1) This constitution shall govern the manner in which Team Missing in Action (M.I.A.) makes decisions, and acts upon them in order to play our turn of the save provided to us in through the Multi-Team DemoGame (MTDG).

2) This constitution shall regulate all members of M.I.A. and have no weight in the proceedings of other teams, nor the administrators of the MTDG. When there is a conflict perceived between this constitution an the constitution of the MTDG, The MTDG constitution shall overrule the constitution of M.I.A.

Article II - Citizens.

1) A citizen shall be defined as any person who has joined M.I.A. and has not withdrawn from the game.

2) A citizen of M.I.A. is made up of the following classes - Founder, Natural and Refugee, and also a Resident.

a) A Founder citizen is defined as a person who has joined M.I.A. before the first turn has been played, and has not withdrawn from the game. [once the game starts we'll use a date]

b) A Natural citizen is defined as a person who has joined M.I.A. after the first turn has been played, and has not withdrawn from the game. [once the game starts we'll use a date]

c) A Refugee is defined as a person, who was originally a citizen of another team, who has joined M.I.A., and has not withdrawn from the game.

d) A Resident citizen is defined as a Lurker or a Refugee. These citizens may engage in discussion and vote in general polls, but not vote in elections.

3) Any Refugee who wishes to become a Natural citizen may ask the President Or Team Captain to sponsor them to become Naturalised and gain the right to vote and to hold office. If either agrees, a poll shall be taken among the remaining Founders. After 72 hours if a majority of votes cast favour the naturalization of the refugee, that person shall be defined as a Natural citizen with all the rights that title holds.

4) Once refugees have joined M.I.A., for any refugee to be elected to office, that refugee must get 1 Founder of M.I.A. to sponsor their candidacy, and must have at least 1/5 of the votes from the Citizens of team M.I.A.

5) All Citizens have the right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right to free speech, the right to a fair trial, the right to representation, the right to demand satisfaction and the right to vote in general polls.

Article III- Leadership.

0) A term is defined as 20/25 game turns.

1) The President shall be the designated player; meaning he plays the save. When playing the save he has the responsibility to carry out the decisions of other leaders. He is responsible for workers, city management, and powers and responsibilities not specified to other leaders. This position shall be elected every term.

2) The Team Captain shall represent team M.I.A. in the UN and shall also maintain order in the team. This position shall be elected every other term.

3) The Domestic Minister shall be responsible for settlement, sliders, research, wonders, and government changes, and all duties and powers affecting the economy not specified to other leaders. This position shall be elected every term.

4) The Defence Minister is responsible for all military units. He is responsible for the building, upgrading and the placement of units. This position shall be elected every term.

5) The Foreign Minister determines trades and declarations of war, peace, alliances, and MPP. All dealings with other nations must be approved by the Minister. He appoints a single Diplomat to every remaining team. He must act as a Diplomat when one is absent or someone cannot fill the position. This position shall be elected every term.

6) The Diplomats to other teams are appointed by the Foreign Minister. They shall be responsible for discussions and trades with other teams.

7) The election process, where all citizens of M.I.A. are eligible to vote.

a) During turns 15/20 a thread shall be opened for nominations. Any citizen may nominate any other citizen, including themselves, for any position that is up for election. The nominee then must accept the nomination.

b) On turn 18/23 a poll shall be held for each position, with the names of every nominee that accepted. The poll must be open for 48 hours, although it is recommended it is open for 72. A simple majority is required to elect someone to a position; not including abstains.

c) Once turn 20/25 ends, a new term has begun and the new leaders shall take their positions.

d) Any tie shall be broken by the sitting Team Captain, unless the Team Captain is running in said election, in which case the tie shall be broken by the President. If both the President and Team Captain are running, the tie shall be broken by a simple majority of the Foreign, Defence and Domestic Ministers.

8) No person may hold the same elected office 2 terms in a row or hold more than 1 office at the same time, except in cases where the position would otherwise not be filled.

9) In the event the President resigns or cannot play the save on a certain day, the line of succession shall be:
Team Captain
Domestic Minister
Defence Minister
Foreign Minister.

10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President shall appoint a replacement, subject to the same regulations provided in Article III section 8.

11) Any leader can delegate powers of their office as they see fit, as long as the delegation does not conflict with any other rules.

Article IV - Ratifying and Amending the Constitution.

1) This Constitution shall take effect once a poll has been taken of all citizens of M.I.A. This poll must be open for 72 hours, anonymous, obtain a 2/3 majority in favour (not including abstentions) of adopting, and at least 50% of citizens must vote (including abstains).

2) Amending the Constitution.

a) Any citizen has the right to put forward a motion to amend the constitution.

b) Any citizen can call for a motion to amend the constitution; and for it to be legal, either the original forwarder or the seconder must be a Founder citizen.

c) The motion is then put to all citizens of MIA for a vote; a majority of 2/3 votes of the population deem the amendment passed. The poll must be open for 72 hours and have at least 50% of citizens who voted in the last contested election vote.

d) The constitution is then amended and becomes law.

e) If the vote fails, the unsuccessful amendment cannot be proposed until 2 Terms have passed.
 
I don't like that. If no one wants it it won't get proposed, and if people want it, there's no sense in denying it.

Should we put in a section about what we require votes to do? Like war, peace, tech, etc.? or should we just leave that unwritten, and let the principlas of democracy take over- you don't like it, elect someone else (and you can be sure they'll listen to every poll any citizen puts up
 
Reason for Article IV 2.e is to make it difficult for a bunch of subversive refugees in tying up our resources with needless and constant voting for amendment changes which may be designed to water down Founder rights. ;)
:lol: Pretty Paranoid ... Yes :eek:

In regards to your followup question ... I suggest leave it ... we can always amend the Constitution ...
 
fe3333au said:
Reason for Article IV 2.e is to make it difficult for a bunch of subversive refugees in tying up our resources with needless and constant voting for amendment changes which may be designed to water down Founder rights. ;)
*Pretty Paranoid ... Yes :eek:

In regards to your followup question ... I suggest leave it ... we can always amend the Constitution ...

then enact an amendment when the refugees come. Are you really saying a new thread every 72 hours is going to spam up the forum to the point we cant function? You have to be kidding me.
 
ybbor said:
I don't like that. If no one wants it it won't get proposed, and if people want it, there's no sense in denying it.

I agree. It seems to be an unecessarily intrusive clause.

On another note, Article III Section 10. It just doesn't feel quite right. Maybe the nominated replacement should be put to a 50/50 vote?
 
peter grimes said:
I agree. It seems to be an unecessarily intrusive clause.

On another note, Article III Section 10. It just doesn't feel quite right. Maybe the nominated replacement should be put to a 50/50 vote?

how about a compromise? the president can nominate someone in the interim while the nomination process starts again.
 
10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President shall appoint a replacement, subject to the same regulations provided in Article III section 8

8) No person may hold the same elected office 2 terms in a row or hold more than 1 office at the same time, except in cases where the position would otherwise not be filled.

How would you reword ??

10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President shall appoint a replacement, and that position is voted on by the citizens, subject to the same regulations provided in Article III section 8
 
10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President or Team Captain shall temporarily take on the responsibilities of that vacancy. An election to fill the vacant position will be held at the earliest possible time.
 
fe3333au said:
10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President or Team Captain shall temporarily take on the responsibilities of that vacancy. An election to fill the vacant position will be held at the earliest possible time.

fine, I'll support that language

keep in mind they can still do the essentailly same thing through the delegation clause of article III section 11

And artcile II secton 0 is covered by 7 c
 
fe3333au said:
10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President or Team Captain shall temporarily take on the responsibilities of that vacancy. An election to fill the vacant position will be held at the earliest possible time.

This is much better. There is a little redundancy vis-a-vis the delegation of tasks, but this way the Pres. can't simply appoint without taking into consideration the will of the people.
 
ybbor said:
Should we put in a section about what we require votes to do? Like war, peace, tech, etc.? or should we just leave that unwritten, and let the principlas of democracy take over- you don't like it, elect someone else (and you can be sure they'll listen to every poll any citizen puts up

I think this is a smart move. I think declaring war (unless attacked) should be up for a vote. I think an offer of peace should default to accept unless overridden by 2/3 majority. As for techs, that's what the forum discussions are for. But war and peace are too consequential to leave to one viewpoint.
 
Constitution Ongoing Draft II
>Replaced Article III.10

Article I - The Constitution.

1) This constitution shall govern the manner in which Team Missing in Action (M.I.A.) makes decisions, and acts upon them in order to play our turn of the save provided to us in through the Multi-Team DemoGame (MTDG).

2) This constitution shall regulate all members of M.I.A. and have no weight in the proceedings of other teams, nor the administrators of the MTDG. When there is a conflict perceived between this constitution an the constitution of the MTDG, The MTDG constitution shall overrule the constitution of M.I.A.

Article II - Citizens.

1) A citizen shall be defined as any person who has joined M.I.A. and has not withdrawn from the game.

2) A citizen of M.I.A. is made up of the following classes - Founder, Natural and Refugee, and also a Resident.

a) A Founder citizen is defined as a person who has joined M.I.A. before the first turn has been played, and has not withdrawn from the game. [once the game starts we'll use a date]

b) A Natural citizen is defined as a person who has joined M.I.A. after the first turn has been played, and has not withdrawn from the game. [once the game starts we'll use a date]

c) A Refugee is defined as a person, who was originally a citizen of another team, who has joined M.I.A., and has not withdrawn from the game.

d) A Resident citizen is defined as a Lurker or a Refugee. These citizens may engage in discussion and vote in general polls, but not vote in elections.

3) Any Refugee who wishes to become a Natural citizen may ask the President Or Team Captain to sponsor them to become Naturalised and gain the right to vote and to hold office. If either agrees, a poll shall be taken among the remaining Founders. After 72 hours if a majority of votes cast favour the naturalization of the refugee, that person shall be defined as a Natural citizen with all the rights that title holds.

4) Once refugees have joined M.I.A., for any refugee to be elected to office, that refugee must get 1 Founder of M.I.A. to sponsor their candidacy, and must have at least 1/5 of the votes from the Citizens of team M.I.A.

5) All Citizens have the right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right to free speech, the right to a fair trial, the right to representation, the right to demand satisfaction and the right to vote in general polls.

Article III- Leadership.

0) A term is defined as 20/25 game turns.

1) The President shall be the designated player; meaning he plays the save. When playing the save he has the responsibility to carry out the decisions of other leaders. He is responsible for workers, city management, and powers and responsibilities not specified to other leaders. This position shall be elected every term.

2) The Team Captain shall represent team M.I.A. in the UN and shall also maintain order in the team. This position shall be elected every other term.

3) The Domestic Minister shall be responsible for settlement, sliders, research, wonders, and government changes, and all duties and powers affecting the economy not specified to other leaders. This position shall be elected every term.

4) The Defence Minister is responsible for all military units. He is responsible for the building, upgrading and the placement of units. This position shall be elected every term.

5) The Foreign Minister determines trades and declarations of war, peace, alliances, and MPP. All dealings with other nations must be approved by the Minister. He appoints a single Diplomat to every remaining team. He must act as a Diplomat when one is absent or someone cannot fill the position. This position shall be elected every term.

6) The Diplomats to other teams are appointed by the Foreign Minister. They shall be responsible for discussions and trades with other teams.

7) The election process, where all citizens of M.I.A. are eligible to vote.

a) During turns 15/20 a thread shall be opened for nominations. Any citizen may nominate any other citizen, including themselves, for any position that is up for election. The nominee then must accept the nomination.

b) On turn 18/23 a poll shall be held for each position, with the names of every nominee that accepted. The poll must be open for 48 hours, although it is recommended it is open for 72. A simple majority is required to elect someone to a position; not including abstains.

c) Once turn 20/25 ends, a new term has begun and the new leaders shall take their positions.

d) Any tie shall be broken by the sitting Team Captain, unless the Team Captain is running in said election, in which case the tie shall be broken by the President. If both the President and Team Captain are running, the tie shall be broken by a simple majority of the Foreign, Defence and Domestic Ministers.

8) No person may hold the same elected office 2 terms in a row or hold more than 1 office at the same time, except in cases where the position would otherwise not be filled.

9) In the event the President resigns or cannot play the save on a certain day, the line of succession shall be:
Team Captain
Domestic Minister
Defence Minister
Foreign Minister.

10) If there is a vacancy in a position mid-term, the President or Team Captain shall temporarily take on the responsibilities of that vacancy. An election to fill the vacant position will be held at the earliest possible time.

11) Any leader can delegate powers of their office as they see fit, as long as the delegation does not conflict with any other rules.

Article IV - Ratifying and Amending the Constitution.

1) This Constitution shall take effect once a poll has been taken of all citizens of M.I.A. This poll must be open for 72 hours, anonymous, obtain a 2/3 majority in favour (not including abstentions) of adopting, and at least 50% of citizens must vote (including abstains).

2) Amending the Constitution.

a) Any citizen has the right to put forward a motion to amend the constitution.

b) Any citizen can call for a motion to amend the constitution; and for it to be legal, either the original forwarder or the seconder must be a Founder citizen.

c) The motion is then put to all citizens of MIA for a vote; a majority of 2/3 votes of the population deem the amendment passed. The poll must be open for 72 hours and have at least 50% of citizens who voted in the last contested election vote.

d) The constitution is then amended and becomes law.

e) If the vote fails, the unsuccessful amendment cannot be proposed until 2 Terms have passed.

Regarding III.0 and III.7.c - keep them both or if absolutely required I suggest reword section 0 as the word is used virtually from the start of Article III.

Article V - Game Actions which require a 2/3 Consensus prior to Implementation.

1) The following actions require a 2/3 majority from a vote from Citizens are;

a) The Declaration of War with another team, unless Team M.I.A. has been directly attacked.

b) An offer of Peace which is instigated by the population. This will follow the rules as per Article IV which are required to amend the Constitution.

c) The granting of Rights of Passage to another team.

d) Entering a Mutual Protection Pact with another team.

Discussion???
 
May I suggest only 1/2 for game events. But 2/3 for constitution changes and the like.

We dont want to get bogged down because we have a few players too scared to go to war.
 
Meleager said:
May I suggest only 1/2 for game events.

That seems sensible. I'm also wondering if the citizens should have a say in RoP and MPP. Does this remove too much power from the foreign, domestic, and pres?
 
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