Dramatically improved World Map

[nantonio]

Great Job with the modifications unSounder!

I used a sattelite image of Europe as a reference for accuracy and added a few mods. Here they are (They concern mostly southern europe and northern africa):

- Cyprus: Changed the size and shape. Added hill and Goodyhut.
- Greece: Changed the shape. Added mount Olympus (Where would the Gods live?) and hills in Northern Greece.
- Turkey: Changed grasslands to plains. There is a small connecting land between Greece and Turkey now (The Black Sea used to be a lake in 4000BC).
- Italy: Snow covered mountains instead of mountains in North Italy (Alpes).
- Scotland: Added more hills.
- Sardinia and Corsica: Changed shape, plains instead of grassland.
- Sicilly: Changed shape, added hills.
- Nile river: The delta of the Nile has been changed to grassland and plains were added along the river instead of desert.
- North Africa: Changed portions of it from grassland to plains.
- Spain: plains instead of grassland.
- Portugal: Changed the shape slightly.


It's amazing how much more there is to be done!

 

[Phorever Phalanx]

satyajedi - great map!

Almost every game I've started has had a Barbarian village very close. I usually lose my worker or get the city ransacked. Once it even started me next to the Barb village and my settler was killed for the quickest possible loss.

Questions -

Does the PC pick starting locations, or can you indicate them on a map?

What is the Barbarian activity set at on the map?

Can we modify the rules to clear out Barbs within 5 spaces of starting positions (your own civ is settling down after beating up other nomads)?

 

[CrayonX]

I think it's awesome people are corraborating on getting an accurate world map. I'm going to have a go at some adjustments to a few places as well, and if it's worth it I'll upload it here.

Good work guys!



crayonx

 

[Ale]

Is it possible somehow to start with americans in america? I have tried it many times without any luck. Help me

 

[admiralspock]

This is a good idea that modifing this map little by little.
Since we all hail from different backgrounds make modiciaftion to your place of expertise and post the map and the next person modifies that and ...
Than we will have the ultimate map

 

[admiralspock]

For my part I have forseted nothen Iran and have deserted some parts of afghanistan (Herat and southern afghanistan). I also have took some oil off of Saudi Arabia and give some to Iraq and Iran.
The distance from Caspian Sea and the Persian Gult just looks too wrong. It is infixable unless someone redesigns the whole region.
Keep making improvements

 

[Risbinroch]

great map, I use it, but a few suggestions.

- It isnt tundra in Norway... at least NOT in the southern parts. But tundra is anyway a bit drastic even in the northern parts of Scandinavia.
- Iceland should be larger.
- make an island up in the north (Svalbard) with coal. + a few fish around...
- In the gulf I think there should be just a little grassland, as any civ that starts there in my game always struggles a bit.
- Since tundra is liveable, I think most of Greenland should have montains instead, just so it doesnt pop up realy big cities there..
- should be even more montains/hills in Norway.
- Should be alot of rivers in Finland because of their 1000s of lakes.
- should be more pine forests than ordinary forests in scandinavia.
- more fish on the westcoast of norway.
- Australia is a bit to "green" should have more desert.
- If Ireland is connected to England so should Denmark be to Sweden, as you could practily swim across...
- Is it realy tundra in northern South America?
- Isn't there oil in the south of Texas?

anyways a good map, I use it with a couple of changes.

 

[admiralspock]

Since you are the "expert" on Northen Europe, why don't you make the changes and post the new map called world map 1.3

 

[diser]

Since I come from Sweden I see myself as an expert on the subject of Scandinavia and therefore I've improved the parts that Robinroch thought wasn't good enough. Here is what I changed:

- I took away some of the tundra in Scandinavia.
- I've enlarged Iceland.
- I've changed the forests in "The North" to pine forests.
- On the coast of Norway is it now a lot of fish.
- I've created Svalbard north of Norway.
- There is now a lot of mountains in Greenland.
- Scandinavia has more hills.
- Finland has some rivers. ( And about that: "1000s of lakes" thing; Sweden has more...)

 

[JaySar]

Hey man, great work!

Maybe you can fix Holland, though, it's barely recognizable...
(I'm dutch I admit it... But hey, can't blame me, right?)

JaySar

 

[diser]

On request, I've fixed parts of Europe (+Holland) and put more mountains in Scandinavia.

Enjoy!

 

[diser]

I'm thinking of changing this wonderful map a little. Here's some suggestions:

- Move New Zeeland a little more south and also make it smaller.
- Make some islands at Australia; New Hebrides, Fidji etc.
- Improve the Australian landscape.

Please post more suggestions of improvements and I'll try to fix the map later today...

 

[diser]

Here's some more changes to the map we all love and uses...

- I've moved New Zealand some southwest, made it smaller and put some djungle on it.
- There now exists small islands northeast of Australia and New Guinea. (Can't name them all.)
- Some of Australias djungle is changed to forest.
- I've added the Simpson Desert (Australia).
- The hills in Eastern Australia have been put together.

Enjoy!

 

[JipJap]

by the way, norway has aluminium

 

[homer]

The Simpson desert!!!! Doh!!!!


I think the flanders forrest is next to the Simpson desert!! (with a much nicer civilization in it of course)
:crazyeyes

 

[Frozen_Lava]

Well sorry to say that, but the last tip I can give to let you have a map that look better is to download Marla's map.

On Satya's map, Japan can land on California by trireme, to be clear, there's no pacific ocean, Africa is reduced to let more space for Europe which gives a look awful to that continent, there's too many land in general for only few seas, and there's generally a really poor accuracy in terrain's distribution.

If you want an enormous map with lot's of lands and few seas, download Satya's map. But if you want a map of the earth, download Marla's one.

Frozen Lava: Map reviewer.

 

[nantonio]

You have a point Frozen_Lava, but what you are saying is not entirely true.

The cost of having a more accurate Pacific Ocean comes at the expense of land detail. For example, the Meditterenean looks TERRIBLE on Marla's map, while it is quite accurate on Satya's, especially after the mods.

Also the fact that you can reach America from Asia on a trireme is not entirely bad. This is probably one of the ways people arrived on the American continent and the Pacific islands (like Hawaii).

So it all comes down to preference. Personally, I prefer a more accurate land than an accurate sea.

 

[Risbinroch]

I must say I agree with nantonio, it's way better to have an accurate land mass, the other map mentioned is rather poor I think, but if someone like it...

But it's alway room for improvements. But all in all, it's a very good map. Using the save game editor all civs can start in their correct places too... Get's a bit crowded in Europe though.

 

[TrailblazingScot]

The resource allocation on this map is my main fault with it...

CONSIDER: that each strategic resource can forfill and ENTIRE EMPIRE...

Thus tiny little deposits of aluminium, saltpeter shouldn't be considered...e.g the aluminium in the USA...in 1980 A.D (real life) 93 % of American aluminium came from the rest of the world.

Aluminium is MAINLY obtained from australia, Brazil, Jamaica, Guinea...

Canada should have iron in it -Sudbury mine (I think, one of the largest iron mines in the world)

Afghanistan is a joke...as is Eastern Iran.

Japan is virtually fully dependant on all major resources from abroad...


I don't have the time just now to fully research the resources (but when I get back from geologising in Cyprus I will have) I will shake up the resources...hopefully people will get there before me...

 

[MoggieNZ]

Hi Diser, I noticed your changes to New Zealand which I thought were pretty good, just one of your comments (I havn't had a change to run the map yet) you said you placed some jungle. Theres no jungle in New Zealand as it is a temperate enviroment. only forests, mountains, lakes and plains. I can have a go at it if you like

Keep up the good work everyone