english UHV?

[Sovietof17]

Just curious, has anyone completed it post-plague? Or even pre-plague? I can't seem to even come close. I settle Australia, Africa, and Asia, and its 1670 already. Game over.

 

[McA123]

I've done it pre-plague several times.. And I think I probably could post-plague. As England, you're not in danger of invasions, so what difference does the plague make? I always thought it was an easy UHV.

 

[Mowque]

not always out of danger, once France attacked and wiped me out as England.

 

[Barak]

Seems one of the issues is that plague destroys any settlers you stockpile and also reduces city size and therefore production abilities.

I struggle to get the cities built in Asia.

 

[McA123]

Usually, I grab Scandinavia first off. I build London, Plymouth and Dublin. Skip Newcastle or whatever. it's worthless. Send your extra settler for Oslo or Lulea. Concentrate on getting astronomoy, civil service and guilds. Once I have galleons built up, i usually assign a unit to each of my 3 good cities. Dublin builds workers, London builds longbowmen and Inverness builds settlers, and I put one of each on each galleon. India goes down easy 9 games out of 10, a few knights, some cannons/cats and some musketeers are usually all it takes. If you don't think you can take India in time, take Indochina. It's usually untouched at this point of time and falls down easily. Circumnavigation is ridiculously easy, and I don't think I've ever not gotten the third goal without trying very hard not to. I play Monarch, btw.

 

[Sovietof17]

wait a second here.

I was under the impression you have to build cities. Not conquer someone elses. Is that correct, or not correct? It says "found 3 cities on every continent". Dont your 3 cities London, Dublin, and Plymouth count as 3 cities in europe?

Also, do cities settled on islands, lets say, in the caribbean, count as cities in North america? Do cities settled in malaysia count as Asian cities?

Also, does anyone know what techs count as "putting you into the industrial age?"

 

[werttrew]

wait a second here.

I was under the impression you have to build cities. Not conquer someone elses. Is that correct, or not correct? It says "found 3 cities on every continent". Dont your 3 cities London, Dublin, and Plymouth count as 3 cities in europe?

Also, do cities settled on islands, lets say, in the caribbean, count as cities in North america? Do cities settled in malaysia count as Asian cities?

I was able to get this one done by 1655, but that was pre-plague. I made a beeline for Astronomy as soon as I started as England.

At least in the earlier versions you only had to control three cities per continent, not build them yourself. Conquering Pagan, for example, counted as an Asia city.

No, you don't need to settle Europe, because the British Isle counts.
Yes, islands count. You can settle the Carribean or Falklands for the New World, for example.
Malaysia I'm not sure if it counts as Australia or Asia. Singapore definitely counts as Asia.

 

[Rhye]

no it's "found" 3 cities

 

[Lord Apolon]

Well I just did it in the post-plague environment. It's 1610 and I just finished the settlement goal and also used a Scientist to pop Sci Method to hit Industrial first (I had a feeling someone else was getting close, and plague had just hit so I didn't want to take the chance).

My cities in the UK are London, Inverness, Newcastle, and Dublin. Plymouth is useless and Dublin isn't great even when it isn't sharing Ireland with another city.

After Optics and circumnavigating (easy) I beelined for Astro since it takes a long time to research. I got that right after the Black Death ended, after hitting everyone in the world (except isolationist Japan, grrr). Then all cities became colony-machines. Every galleon had a settler and a defender, and most had a worker; a few had explorers or Christian missionaries for culture.

My order was Australia first (farthest away), Africa (best undeveloped land), SE Asia (biggest pain), and South-Central America (3 turn journey at most).
For Africa I did only two settlers because the city with gold, cow, copper, sugar, and crabs on the east coast grew quite quickly and could build its own settler. I could have tried the same in Australia but growth there was much slower before culture and a bunch of workers.

I decided to leave India alone since it would take too many knights and I didn't have the time for that. Instead, just 3 knights were able to burn Angkor and Pagan; I rebuilt the latter on the same spot and Angkor on the sugar to get coastline. Singapore was easy (I would have settled Phillipines but Japan got there first!).

I went for Central America to 1) have a Panama Canal and 2) didn't want to lose cities to America. Plus, lots of luxuries, moderate growth potential, and a base to crush the Aztecs, Inca, or both and create a united colonial empire in the West.

And that's it. The colonial era started right after a plague and ended just as another one began tearing apart Europe but before it hit any of the colonies. I don't think much luck played a part except that no one declared war on me (until just at the end, Arabia declared war). I could do it again.

Hardest thing was building culture in the colonies (started by whipping theatres, then switched to caste for the artists), but that isn't necessary for the goal. But now they are on their way to being productive, and once the plague and war is over the <b>British</b> empire will continue to expand until the Sun never sets on it. Getting to the modern era first shouldn't be a problem.

So... yes, it can still be done post-plague. Just be careful and build lots of galleons.

 

[McA123]

If you skip Newcastle, Dublin is a great city.

 

[Sovietof17]

laugh. i have no idea how you achieved this. my economy crashes and burns to the grounds with the crushing weight of so many cities.

Well I just did it in the post-plague environment. It's 1610 and I just finished the settlement goal and also used a Scientist to pop Sci Method to hit Industrial first (I had a feeling someone else was getting close, and plague had just hit so I didn't want to take the chance).

My cities in the UK are London, Inverness, Newcastle, and Dublin. Plymouth is useless and Dublin isn't great even when it isn't sharing Ireland with another city.

After Optics and circumnavigating (easy) I beelined for Astro since it takes a long time to research. I got that right after the Black Death ended, after hitting everyone in the world (except isolationist Japan, grrr). Then all cities became colony-machines. Every galleon had a settler and a defender, and most had a worker; a few had explorers or Christian missionaries for culture.

My order was Australia first (farthest away), Africa (best undeveloped land), SE Asia (biggest pain), and South-Central America (3 turn journey at most).
For Africa I did only two settlers because the city with gold, cow, copper, sugar, and crabs on the east coast grew quite quickly and could build its own settler. I could have tried the same in Australia but growth there was much slower before culture and a bunch of workers.

I decided to leave India alone since it would take too many knights and I didn't have the time for that. Instead, just 3 knights were able to burn Angkor and Pagan; I rebuilt the latter on the same spot and Angkor on the sugar to get coastline. Singapore was easy (I would have settled Phillipines but Japan got there first!).

I went for Central America to 1) have a Panama Canal and 2) didn't want to lose cities to America. Plus, lots of luxuries, moderate growth potential, and a base to crush the Aztecs, Inca, or both and create a united colonial empire in the West.

And that's it. The colonial era started right after a plague and ended just as another one began tearing apart Europe but before it hit any of the colonies. I don't think much luck played a part except that no one declared war on me (until just at the end, Arabia declared war). I could do it again.

Hardest thing was building culture in the colonies (started by whipping theatres, then switched to caste for the artists), but that isn't necessary for the goal. But now they are on their way to being productive, and once the plague and war is over the <b>British</b> empire will continue to expand until the Sun never sets on it. Getting to the modern era first shouldn't be a problem.

So... yes, it can still be done post-plague. Just be careful and build lots of galleons.

 

[Edungeon]

I belive that the best for England is to play with a Specialist Economy. Building farms all over the place, just Manchester and Dublin have cottages. This way my colonies grow up a lot faster, and i don't need to wait for cottages.

And with my economy is bad, i just force Merchants in the cities that have spare pop, it gives normally 12,9gp (with Royal Exchange, Grocer and Bank) so you don't go bankrupt.

Becouse of the Specialist Economy my colinies always go after happy resources, i take Silver, Spices and Cotton in America; Gold, Gems and Whales in Africa; Sugar in Australia. I always settle in the first empty space in Asia, so i don't search "best spot" for a city =\.

I don't build Workers, i use the free ones to go to a colony just to grab the resource and then move he to the next one.

The last game with England I was hit with 3 plagues i.i' one in the beginning, one in while a war with Spain ( wich come in handy ), and one that killed my last settler \o'\ but i manege to get the UHV in time with a little help of Slavery ;D.

 

[Lord Apolon]

Well, it can be done. I carried through the previous game to the end and won in 1814. Yay! Video may have killed the radio star, but Radio created everlasting victory for the United Kingdom and Commonwealth.
I had a mixed economy in England since I'm a fairly mediocre player, but it worked out. By the end, some of the Australian and African colonies were actually more productive than any home city except London!

Challenges:
1. Getting the colonies done in time (duh). See my above post for tips on that. Plague reappeared aroud 1625 but did not recur thereafter, and didn't hit the colonies.
2. The economy: my trick here was that I still had slavery during the colonial period, and my colonies with only one exception settled within a fat cross of a sea resource. Whipped a work boat right away, then a theatre, and the growth from fish/clams/crabs was enough to support the city early on. Later I switched to caste system for artists in S. America and Asia where production was initially lower. Obviously courthouses abroad and royal exchanges at home were a priority.
3. Military! My production was always too busy, and eventually too slow at home, to maintain a real military. Hence I had to play nice. I only had two wars--one against Arabia, where I burned a useless city of theirs and made peace, and one against Aztecs. The Chinese were taking them out so I helped burn cities with the goal of taking Tenochtitlan, but it never happened. Aztecs collapsed and my vast military of 3 cavalry and later 3 grenadiers were never able to take the city. Tragic. Most cities remained defended by longbows, crossbows, and in some lucky cases musketmen right through to the end.
4. My biggest problem: load times! Yikes. My computer is slow so by 1700 the inter-turns were lasting from 2 to 5 (!!) minutes. This almost made me give up but I stuck it through. Electricity->Radio->Win.

Behold my empire, on which the sun has never set, and never shall:

Has anyone else finished it yet? I think I could do a better job and some good conquering if I focused more on production in England, and had a faster computer.

 

[Edungeon]

I already won, using SE and getting a lot of GS to bulb Techs... it was farly easy =\ The only challenge is the colonies in time.

 

[Barak]

I'm trying it in 143 and while I have 3 cities in the Americas, 3 in Australia, three in Africa and three in Asia/Indonesia, it is by 1620, it is not giving me the "Yes". I still get a "Not yet" in 1635.

What did I miss?

 

[Barak]

Clearly, I missed a city in Asia. I settled a fourth city in far east siberia. Either my city across the strait from Singapore or in the Phillipeans did not count as asia.

 

[Lord Apolon]

Barak--check out this thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192549

That has accurate maps from a few versions ago.. the short answer is that Indonesia counts as part of Oceania, not Asia! Only the Philippines are Asian, as far as the SE Asian Islands go.

 

[Barak]

thanks, now I just need to figure out which techs are industrial and which are modern!

 

[Lord Apolon]

The thread tells you that too.

 

[Barak]

ah, i see it now. That is helpfull