vbraun
Raytracing
warpstorm said:
I'm pretty sure that would be one of my first modding goals with Civ4. We just don't know how to play Civ4 to figure out what the AI should do.
Enough with the little things, now, let's talk AI
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I'm pretty sure that would be one of my first modding goals with Civ4. We just don't know how to play Civ4 to figure out what the AI should do.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
I always felt that one of the core misconceptions of Civ3 was that it seemed to be based on absolute results of calculations.
Now, what do I mean?
Have you ever noticed that AI-workers hide in a city where your SOD just showed up? During the fight, it becomes clear that this was the city with the most/best defenders in it. Yet, you took it and gained the workers additionally.
This obviously is complete nonsense.
What the AI should have done was to calculate the threat potential being imposed on any of its cities. Then the city where your SOD was would have got the lowest rating and therefore, the workers would have gone somewhere else.
Even if the algorithm to calculate the threat wouldn't have been 100% perfect, the relation between the various result would have caused the AI to react in a proper way.
Similar examples you find each and everywhere in Civ3, might it be the pathfinding routine or what else.
This is the area, the developers should concentrate on.
As it seems to be likely, we will have to show them, how to do it. Unfortunately, most probably you will at least need the announced SDK, if this would be sufficient.
Now, what do I mean?
Have you ever noticed that AI-workers hide in a city where your SOD just showed up? During the fight, it becomes clear that this was the city with the most/best defenders in it. Yet, you took it and gained the workers additionally.
This obviously is complete nonsense.
What the AI should have done was to calculate the threat potential being imposed on any of its cities. Then the city where your SOD was would have got the lowest rating and therefore, the workers would have gone somewhere else.
Even if the algorithm to calculate the threat wouldn't have been 100% perfect, the relation between the various result would have caused the AI to react in a proper way.
Similar examples you find each and everywhere in Civ3, might it be the pathfinding routine or what else.
This is the area, the developers should concentrate on.
As it seems to be likely, we will have to show them, how to do it. Unfortunately, most probably you will at least need the announced SDK, if this would be sufficient.
Brain
Lost in thought
It's funny that the most criticism comes from the people who don't have the vaguest hint of a clue about how complex an AI system is. In any case, I have started a new thread on the subject if anyone would like to do something about it instead of just complain.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119963
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119963
ThERat
Deity
agree with brain here. Humans can easily take other factors into consideration and not only probability of a victorious fight. That's how we can beat much stronger units using a multitude of units.
A real great AI would one that starts to learn from the Human player and simulate that behaviour. How much harder a game would be that way.
A real great AI would one that starts to learn from the Human player and simulate that behaviour. How much harder a game would be that way.
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