tR1cKy
taking over the world
Uh uh. Sorry pal, but this seems a slogan rather than a coherent thought... lots of n00bs (me included!) have learned a lot with the turn reload.Bluemofia said:
Ethics of reloading?
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rainmaker
Warlord
If I didn't reload I probably would rarely be able to experience the industrial and modern eras. I figure once I can win games without rloading it's time to move to the next level.
I don't consider reloading because I hit the wrong key as unethical. You can learn by trying a stategy and when it doesn't work out going back and have a do over. However, you're not learning if you always reload when you lose an undefended city.
I don't consider reloading because I hit the wrong key as unethical. You can learn by trying a stategy and when it doesn't work out going back and have a do over. However, you're not learning if you always reload when you lose an undefended city.
Crazy Eskimo
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In Civ I, reloading was a way of life for me. Of course, that was when (at least in the Mac version) it was the gateway to a cheat. For whatever reason, it wouldn't remember which of your units had moved during the turn of your save. So, all you had to do was save at the end of your turn, quit, reload, and boom, all your units had their full movement again. It was the original infinite movement! Of course, your cities never got to produce anything, but it was a small price to pay.
In Civ III, I found myself reloading less and less. In the beginning, I was still possessed of the Final Fantasy mentality (i.e. I can't miss anything, I want all the Magicite/Materia/Summons, etc., so whenever I miss one, I'll reload from an earlier save.) However, once I began to get more in the strategy/tactics mode, this fell away, simply because if you miss it in this game, you can get it in the next, and there's no one item that you HAVE to have in order to win or have a complete experience.
On the whole, I think I agree with most people here. Competition, it's flat wrong. One-on-AI, while you're learning, it's a useful tool to see how to fix certain mistakes or how things would play out if you did it differently. However, if you want to master that level, and not make those mistakes to begin with or learn how to recover from them, you can't reload.
In Civ III, I found myself reloading less and less. In the beginning, I was still possessed of the Final Fantasy mentality (i.e. I can't miss anything, I want all the Magicite/Materia/Summons, etc., so whenever I miss one, I'll reload from an earlier save.) However, once I began to get more in the strategy/tactics mode, this fell away, simply because if you miss it in this game, you can get it in the next, and there's no one item that you HAVE to have in order to win or have a complete experience.
On the whole, I think I agree with most people here. Competition, it's flat wrong. One-on-AI, while you're learning, it's a useful tool to see how to fix certain mistakes or how things would play out if you did it differently. However, if you want to master that level, and not make those mistakes to begin with or learn how to recover from them, you can't reload.
bija_konja
Chieftain
Not only am I willing to reload... I also save all my games with the word "multi" in the name so I can see the whole map 
Im a lamer... haha
Im a lamer... haha
Abaddon
Deity
In my opinion you learn more NOT reloading.
Having to learn how to recover from your mistakes or bad luck its a much harsher teacher. But you learn faster and are a better player in the end
Having to learn how to recover from your mistakes or bad luck its a much harsher teacher. But you learn faster and are a better player in the end
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
slozenger said:
Exactly. Also when you know you can't turn back you are less prone to take risk you otherwise wouldn't take. You play more carefull and think about your choices more. I also used to reload but kicked that habit and I now find the game more fun.
For instance when an enemy attacked some cities I didn't defend properly I reloaded and put some units in it. But now I accept the mistake and just try my best to take them back. When you have learned something like that the hard way you'll remember to defend your cities properly the next time.
Desertsnow
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TheBB said:Imagine having the AI reload on you every other turn ...
That's one tech that's NOT going in the game. EVER.
LOL. Just a few turns before you build the UN . . .
"(Soandso) reverses time to (year)."
Then they nuke the city it's in.
Stephan Hoyer
Conquering Civ IV...
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I tend to reload when I miss something stupid. Such as when one of my cities goes into Civil Disorder, I'll reload instead of checking every turn 
. I think that's reasonable.
. I think that's reasonable.CivAssist and MapStat certainly help with that....
ThePrankMonkey
mowing em' down!
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i dont even think of reloading. i just shake my fist at the spearman for destroying a modern armor of mine and move on with my stack of death.
Michelangelo
Prince
I find myself reloading fewer and fewer, now only when I make a very stupid move, by accident and only if it has serious consequences.
But I allways want to play with preserve random seed on, this also helps in staying away from reloading, if I feel tempted again. It wouldn't make much difference, at least not for unfair RNG rolls.
I really don't like to be able to play the scenario's with the Preserve random seed ON. Hey, but you can't have them all.
But I allways want to play with preserve random seed on, this also helps in staying away from reloading, if I feel tempted again. It wouldn't make much difference, at least not for unfair RNG rolls.
I really don't like to be able to play the scenario's with the Preserve random seed ON. Hey, but you can't have them all.
Thunderpants
Chieftain
its ok to do when your trigger finger gets the twitches!
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