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Henri Christophe

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Was said it was the last season, let's watch some numbers about ethnic distribution?
There is 51 leaders and almost 70% are caucasian
25,5% are germanic
Helenics are the same amount of Native Americans or Black

What do you think? This game made his duty to be diverse or this game is obvious Eurocentric-biased?
Do you think Civ 7 will better in diversity or the diversity the game is a reflection of ethinic of players and should still un-simetric forever?
 
The only Caucasian leader in the game is Tamar. :p
 
Please ask, I will be glad to answer
Why is Spain in Germanic, but not Portugal?
Why is Spain in Germanic?
Why is Brazil in Germanic, but not Gran Colombia?
Why is Brazil in Germanic?
Why is France, famous for not being German, in Germanic?
Why is Egypt in Hellenic?
Why is India in "other"?
Why are the Māori in Far East?
How did you decide to lump together Romans, Arabs, Poles, Hungarians (to name a few) together?

I don't know a lot about geography but as someone with a degree in geography this chart makes little to no sense.
 
This chart highlights pretty well why I as a Finnish person don't understand the concept of "race..."

Why are Philip and Pedro Germanic yet Joao and Simon are "other?"
Why is Matthias in same group as Gandhi?
How is Kupe related to Genghis Khan?
Why are caucasians separated but Cree and Mapuche are same? Why are Nubians and Zulus in same group?
Why are Catherine (an Italian) and Eleanor (an Occitan) Germanic? Why is Rome seperated from Spain, France, Portugal etc.?
 
This is beyond a mess...and frankly unhelpful. If you're trying to say that we have too many european/white civs that's one thing. It's also been beat to death and "yes". Of course more representation is the goal (We talk about this all the damn time lol) but there are other (Mostly economic) factors that contribute to civ placement. It runs deeper than that though.

But I would read up on how to divide "caucasians" (Obsolete term tbh) before making a post like this. I would make a southern European group that includes leaders from the south of Europe (Italy+Spain+Portugal), and I would make a separate category for colonial leaders (GC, Brazil, Australia, USA, Canada). I get that some colonial leaders are white...but that's a hot button topic in Brazil and other places regarding "whiteness". It's a hot topic in most non-wholly anglo/germanic/nordic places
 
Also should be obvious but make a SE Asian category and an East Asian category...Maori *can* fit into SE Asia as there is some overlap with them and Indonesia (See melanesia...kinda) but they really should be in a separate category of polynesian/ Oceania

I think OP is trying to say like "Anglo/Germanic/Nordic". But then flagrantly fails to actually implent this...
 
What do you think? This game made his duty to be diverse or this game is obvious Eurocentric-biased?
Given that in the "other caucasian" category, from line 3 down only Tamar would be widely considered "white" (i think at least), and that most would consider Cleopatra mixed race Greek-Egyptian as oppesed to "white",
and given that there seems to be about 50/50 civs that would be broadly seen as culturally "european"/"western" vs civs that wouldn't (the 3 cases that I'd imagine would cause the most contention on which group they belong to are Cleopatra, Tamar, and Suleiman),
and given the natural bias that a 4X game about building an empire will have towards european civilizations,
and given the immense impact that european civilizations have had on world history,

I'd say that there is a veeeeeeery slight bias towards european and european-adjacent civilizations in the current roster. Most of the remaining civs i think could really do with some representation aren't european (just look at my signature)

That being said, I'll echo what others are saying and point out the grouping here seems pretty wack, tho I don't think it's any sort of an attempt at bait. Why distinguish "Germanic" from "caucasian" when "caucasian" is already being used sooooo liberally? Also Kupe as East Asian is contrary to how most people would classify the Maori, which is polynesian.
Also the chart puts Cleopatra in "Hellenic" even tho she's mixed Greek-Egyptian, and also doesn't account for the fact that some of these leaders aren't necessarily racially/ethnically perfectly exemplary of the civilization they lead. Cleopatra in-game leads what is supposed to be a pre-hellenic egypt, and tho Pedro II is white, Brazil as a civilization is heavily influenced by its black and brown populations.
 
Why is Spain in Germanic, but not Portugal?
Why is Spain in Germanic?
Why is Brazil in Germanic, but not Gran Colombia?
Why is Brazil in Germanic?
Why is France, famous for not being German, in Germanic?
Why is Egypt in Hellenic?
Why is India in "other"?
Why are the Māori in Far East?
How did you decide to lump together Romans, Arabs, Poles, Hungarians (to name a few) together?

I don't know a lot about geography but as someone with a degree in geography this chart makes little to no sense.
About Spain and Brazil I look their leader heritage. Philipe II and Pedro II have Habsburgo parents, Habsuburgo are Germanic. But Portugal leader and Gran Colombia don't have Habsburgo parents, so I put as others caucasians

Maori stay in Far East, that I put based on geographical location.

India is other caucasians because they are aryian
this link explain very well why I merge together Romans Arabs and Poles https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Also the chart puts Cleopatra in "Hellenic" even tho she's mixed Greek-Egyptian, and also doesn't account for the fact that some of these leaders aren't necessarily racially/ethnically perfectly exemplary of the civilization they lead. Cleopatra in-game leads what is supposed to be a pre-hellenic egypt, and tho Pedro II is white, Brazil as a civilization is heavily influenced by its black and brown populations.

I don't think Cleopatra is mix race Greek-Egyptian, because, as the Habsubsurgo, the Ptolomaic family make inbreeding relationship. That means she is full helenic greek.
 
About Spain and Brazil I look their leader heritage. Philipe II and Pedro II have Habsburgo parents, Habsuburgo are Germanic. But Portugal leader and Gran Colombia don't have Habsburgo parents, so I put as others caucasians

Maori stay in Far East, that I put based on geographical location.

India is other caucasians because they are aryian
this link explain very well why I merge together Romans Arabs and Poles https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
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