External Consulate - Objectives for Dutch War

[Bertie]

We are about to go to war with the Dutch. The purpose of this war is to deprive the Dutch of certain resources; weaken them; and acquire real estate so we can grow.

The External Consulate suggests our objectives will be met if we take the following 7 cities: Ultrechect, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Holwerd, Arnhem, Groningen, and The Hague. In addition, we suggest after we take these cities that we should negotiate a peace treaty that would include the acquisition of the Republic (if we haven’t already obtained it) or other technology; and as many additional cities as we can squeeze out of the Dutch. (Obviously we won’t turn our back on gold.)

We discussed the question in THIS THREAD. Fanatannian citizens suggest there are 3 ways to ending the war:

1) Acquire the 7 cities; and if the Dutch won’t give us the Republic in negotiations, continue with the war until they will.
2) Acquire the 7 cities and then negotiate a peace no matter what the settlement terms.
3) Eliminate the Dutch from the map.

Please select one option.
This is a public poll and anyone can see your how you voted.
This poll will close 3 days after it was opened.

 

[Ashburnham]

Definately Option 1. Eliminating the Dutch is simply not necessary. We, as a nation, need to cease military building as soon as possible and start improving the infrastructure of Fanatannia. We are supposedly going for a Culture Victory. Taking 7 cities will effectively remove the Dutch as a threat, and gaining Republic is an important step in improving Fanatannia internally. There is a point where the benefits from spending the time to eliminate the Dutch are outweighed by the negatives of continued military spending. Remove them as a threat: Yes. Remove them completely: No!

 

[DaveShack]

I'm for stopping when we can get Republic, or something equally valueable. Note that we might already have it from another source, does that mean stop as soon as the 7 cities are taken?

 

[greekguy]

The Dutch must be totally and completely eliminated.

 

[GenMarshall]

I plan to use the basis of my plans on the outcome of this poll since there are other factors here such as capturing key cities untill we get Republic to exterminating the Dutch.

 

[Kentharu]

i say take the 7 cities and squeeze as much out of the dutch as possible. normally i would say destroy them so they won't be a pain in the ass later but then again we may not have enough forces to do that(im a newb so it doesn't really matter)

 

[Furiey]

I see no point in going out of our way for Delft, so I don't think eliminating the Dutch is on at the moment, that can come later if we wish.

If we already have Republic when we have the 7 cities, I would be looking for something equally valuable instead, rather than a straight peace deal, but we can always look once we have/get nearer to having those 7 cities.

For anyone wondering where these cities are, here's a map:

(cultural borders guessed to 1st expansion if not already there)

 

[Ulyaoth]

So our objeective is just to get to the other sea? I guess opening up room for expansion is too late now. Now, I'd rather we just get our goal of getting there, and see what we can get from them and the risks of continuing. We'll judge from there.

 

[Chieftess]

We should get the cities on the NW side, too. Once we take out a good chunk, if not all of the Dutch, we'll need to build the FP. (Remember, the FP can go anywhere now, but make sure it goes in a place that'll be very productive soon, like Rotterdam -- lots of food for mining desert). BTW, I think we'll need a LOT more than just 7 Dutch cities to stay afloat in Emperor level. Yes, our curragh helped to trade for techs early on, but we can't keep that up forever -- atleast not at our size now.

 

[YNCS]

Take seven cities and whatever else we can get, Republic or some other valuable consideration.

I would agree with Furiey's seven objective cities except that I would take Maastrict and let them keep Haarlem.

 

[Furiey]

Maastrict and Holwerd are 2 more important cities. Maastrict is however still size 1, so I would put it as a top target for getting in a Peace deal either along with Republic or as part of the deal if we get Republic through other means. Holwerd is size 4 currently, so I would probably take that as the next city by conquest if they won't give us enough after the 7 cities. Taking these 2 would clear our route to the North.

Haarlem is size 5 with floodplains for growth and plains for shields. At size 5 we won't get it in a peace deal and It's a city with too much potential to be left in Dutch hands. It deserves to be 1 of the 7.

 

[Nobody]

i vote for the final solution (option)