Fall of the Western Civilization - Preview

[Markus]

Fall of the Western Civilization tells the story of the First World from the outbreak of the war August 1914 to the armistice November 1918. All major theatres of the war are simulated, including the Middle East and colonial Africa.
There are six playable tribes:

Russia (includes Romania)

Italy

Germany (includes Austria-Hungary and Bulgaria)

France

Turkey

Britain (includes Albania, Belgium, Greece, Portugal and Serbia)
The scenario will have five scn-files starting at different years.
Some screenshots:

<img src=http://w1.875.telia.com/~u87514347/efront.jpg>

The Eastern Front

<img src=http://w1.875.telia.com/~u87514347/gea.jpg>

German East Africa

 

[willemvanoranje]

Looks nice, but Königsberg and Danzig are German cities. So you have either the wrong civ or the wrong flag. Germany is black-red-gold (or yellow)

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[Markus]

Today maybe. But this scenario takes place 1914-1918. Don't even bother, the scenario is 100 % historical accurate.

[This message has been edited by Markus (edited April 11, 2001).]

 

[BeBro]

These screenshots, esp. the city graphics, look excellent! Can´t wait to see more, e.g. some more units (perhaps some planes or tanks).
When can we expect the release of the scenario? Or can you tell us more details?

Today maybe. But this scenario takes place 1914-1918

Today for sure

, but of course not during WWI, so your flag is correct

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[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

They are correct, Willem. The Black, Red, and White flag is quite correct for Imperial Germany. This looks to be an impressive collection of scenarios. I too look foward to it's release.

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[Markus]

A few more screenshots.

The map:

<img src=http://w1.875.telia.com/~u87514347/fotwc_map.jpg>

The Turkish war theatre:

<img src=http://w1.875.telia.com/~u87514347/ottoman.jpg>

The scenario will be ready in a few weeks.

 

[BeBro]

Fine pics again. Have you made the cities and units? And have you made other scenarios before?

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[gar13]

looks great! i can't wait to play it!

(just the map alone looks cool as hell! nice job)

 

[das]

It will be greatest WWI scenario, I think.

 

[kIndal]

Scenario looks very good, I like a lot the First World war (in fact I have made a scenario about it) and yours looks fine, i hope to play it soon

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[willemvanoranje]

Oooh! That's black? I thought it was dark blue. Well, anyway, I was wrong about the flag, sorry. About Danzig and Königsberg; they aren't German now, but they were back then. I'm not sure of Danzig, though, I think it was a enclave in Poland with an own government who was pro-German. Am I right Alcibiaties/BeBro?

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[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

At the start of WWI Willem, Poland did not exist as a seperate nation. It was controlled by The Geramn Empire on one side, Imperial Russia on another, and The Austro-Hungarian Empire on the thrid. Danzig was a German city at this time. Warsaw was a Russian city, the Austrians controlled Gallicia. This arrangement went back to the Napolenoic wars. After the Great war, a Poland was created by the allies, and it fought a successful war with the Soviets (circa 1920). Danzig was called a 'free city', to enable the Poles to have an outlet to the Baltic sea. WWII began here, as the German navy started bombarding the Polish garrison on September 1, 1939.

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[BeBro]

You seem unbeatable in this historic questions, Alcibiaties. You should be the official advisor

for Fireaxis´historical Civ3 scenarios (I hope they include any with the game)...

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[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

If only someone would publish my books, Bebro....

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[Lucifer]

100% accurate?

Looking at your big map Britain should have more control over iran, since they did attempt an attack from there on the eastern part of the ottoman empire...

...and prehaps ireland should be moved east a little bit. not so accurate now, uh??uh?

 

[Lucifer]

wheres the usa?

 

[BeBro]

Mhm, Lucifer, I would also be careful with statements like "the scenario is 100 % historical accurate.", because I think that´s impossible in Civ2 - you always have to leave out things.

But I still think this will be a great scenario. The US can be created via events, and the Ireland map thing is nothing that I would call a serious mistake that would spoil the whole scn. Ok, the Iran thing has to be checked, but I think "not so accurate now, uh??uh?" isn´t what I would call constructive criticism...

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[Markus]

Just because I say it is 100 % historical accuarate, doesn't mean it is 100 % historical accurate. And I never said it was geographical accurate.

Good point about Iran anyway, I wasn't sure exactly how to simulate the confused political situation there. I finally decided to make the country complete neutral, but allow foreign troops to pass through the country freely.

[This message has been edited by Markus (edited April 26, 2001).]

 

[thealien_83]

Impressive work here, and I know that I for one will be playing this scenario thoroughly as soon as I get my hands on it. I like the First World war, and anything new on that front is sure to score majorly with me. Aaah, more Ottoman Turks for me!