Feud IV: The Great Revision

[Jehoshua]

OOC: let the chaos commence

 

[Yoshiegg737]

Today's Events​

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Daedalism
A New Philosophy​

Due to the increase of religions and political groups, a swarm of new ideology has sprung up. While these ideas cover almost everything, from divine providence to drinking vodka, it seems to me that something is missing. Not religion, for this is found in the teachings of Islam. Not political purpose, for this can be found among the communists. No, what is missing is a philosophy.
A philosophy is important. Every man needs some purpose to drive him, no matter whether his goals are political or religious. One could argue that Vodkarism is a philosophy, but I personally disagree. Vodkarism is a way of life, and technically a political idea. No what this country needs is a philosophy—and more so, a philosophy that can be adopted regardless of religion or political view. This is where Daedalism comes in.
Daedalism is, in short, the idea the life’s purpose is the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom over pleasure, living a moral life even when it is sour, and the idea that education and learning should be attainable for even the poorest. It is the duty of the learned to pass on their wisdom, and the right of every man to pursue knowledge.
If any man wishes to join this group, he has only to send me a letter requesting membership. He will be accepted, regardless of political view or creed.
With that noted, the one exception I make to the above is Vodkarism. I have no wish to discriminate against Vodkarism, bearing no real animosity against them, but it is impossible for someone to truthfully be both a Vodkarist and a Daedalan. Vodkarism relies heavily on the pursuit of pleasure, Daedalism is the pursuit of knowledge. So I hope that no Vodkarist will be offended if I deny him entrance.
May your wisdom grow,

-Daedalus Caragiv

To The Chief:
"Hey, Chief, it's me! Dmitri Kaminski, you head adviser? Ring a bell? No? Ok, so your a little busy, but I'm sure you'll listen to me eventually. I mean...with all the protests and revolts going on, your life is in danger. But, really, why can't we all get along? I was talking to Niko the other day. Cool guy, minimal input about all this violence going on, y'know? There's still half of Moscow who's opposed to all the fighting, after all.

Anyway, we've met 4 new civilizations today under your rule. I personally went to meet them, since your so busy, and they seemed like nice people leading nice civilizations. Oh, we've discovered two new technologies: Animal Husbandry and Mining. You know those shiny looking rocks outside the village? Yeah! They can actually be used for something! We're calling them "silver" and "gems" at the moment. Oh, and a neutral band of warriors had been formed. We need a leader for them, and please don't use them to quell the uprisings, ok? We need them for other things too."

~ Dmitri Kaminski. Head adviser to the chief.

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Random Events
Unfortunately, there was no random events today

Attempt to slay the rat in the name of the Rahmanist Allah, not Stalin.

13: Quest Complete! Seeing as your the only person who went off to slay the rat, everyone noticed you. They applaud you as the man who single handily slayed the vicious monster. Of course, the rat wasn't THAT vicious, or scary for that matter, but you decided to keep that fact to yourself (+100 Prestige)

Help the 'Talent' girl

20: Flawless Quest Complete! The great Pietr has come again to help all those in need! The 'Talent' girl introduces herself as Marcia Pelletier, an immigrant from Paris. And the shop that Pietr has just helped her build was a shop where you pay money to increase your stats! And, wow, Pietr has so excellently set up shop that Marcia has given him 4 free lessons free of charge. Pietr has gained +5 in Strength, Intelligence, Stamina, and Sociability.

Offer to trade herbs I found that helped repel rats with other villagers for other valuable (or at least tradable goods)

12: Abdul got the higher roll, so you were unmentioned in the slaying of the rat, unfortunately. Although the villagers were pleased to buy your rat repellent items (gain 50 money)

Found Daedalism.

9: You quickly find that founding a new religion is not that easy

Pieter Strijszoon noticed many people of Russia were ill, sick or injured.
I try to set up an apothecary guild, curing the citizens of Russia.
Simon (topsecret)
Daedalus Caragiv (Caragus)
Emmanuele Paolo (West India Man)
Terranski Kaizorvich (Terrance888)
can go to my apothecary shop now to get cured.

Simon goes to a faraway country and gets his cold cured...

16: Success! Pieter Strijdens has opened his apothecary guild! Give the shop a name, and you can go on the front page! And, as your first customer, you cure Simon of his cold for free! Of course, you don't HAVE to charge money for your services if you don't want to...

action: manifest my divine power by striking down the false god stalin with a lightning bolt, simultaneously proving my divinity to the people of Russia.

The villagers faces kind of went like this upon your arrival:

Well, villagers aside, you've still got to face Stalin

"To arms comrades, it is time to overthrow the dictator know as Stalin!"

Emmanuele reminds everyone how they were doing before Stalin became dictator, so they realize that they don't need him

I attack Stalin.

Challenge Stalin to fair elections, arguing he should not be chief as he has done nothing to help the village.

Organize the Belarussians to fight Stalin and assist those who wish to slay Stalin for the good of Russia

Random Number Generates A Strength of 18

Set Holy Army to detain and control any that try to attack Christos.

Sent the holy army and all people of russia to attack the false god and the commies, bring their heads to me and create with their heads a pyramid outside the senate. The head of the false god will go to all russia so all people see how this heretical has failed.

Random Number Generates A Strength of 12

The ultimate clash of the two sides of the army has begun! After the fighting, the supposedly real Allah throws a lightning bolt at the dictator Stalin, paralyzing him. Upon this, the anti-Stalin's perform a rush on the fallen leader as Stalin's supporters flee for their lives at the sudden burst of strength. In the end, the anti-Stalin's overthrow the dictator known as Stalin. In the fighting, Holy Army leader Viktor flees the scene. He cannot be found at the present moment. Currently, Stalin lays paralyzed at the hands of the anti-Stalin's. What will they do with him? Additionally, all 6 leaders of the anti-Stalin's have all gained 20 prestige. After this, Stalin was entered into Pieter Strijdens apothecary to be cured. It is up to Mr. Strijdens to determine what will happen to Stalin. However, a number soon appeared next to Stalin. The number "3". None of the villagers could explain this phenomenon.

Gather a small group of disciples and preach a peaceful doctrine of Islam, all are children of Allah who would not wish His devotees to resort to threats and needless violence

9: Your unable to find some disciples...

Go into the forests surrounding Moscow and gather the spirits of said forest

17: A few hours into your search for the spirits of the forest, you discover a hidden grove. The peaceful spirits here have granted you a new power that only you know what it is. However, you've also released the bad spirits of the forest, who's actions are not yet known.

Day 3​

Current Tribe Leader: None
Moscow Leader: None
Prestige Leader: Vitaliy Kamnev (Spaceman98) with 130 prestige

What is happening right now?
The Stalin uprisings have quelled. But now, we need a new chief! Also, the disposed dictator Stalin is currently in the Apothecary

New Things

• No new jobs today. Mr. Smith was too busy watching the war.
• Marcia Pelletier has opened up the "Talent Store", where you can boost your stats for money. NOTE: Every transaction at this shop does NOT cost an action
• Pieter Strijdens Apothecary has been opened onto the front page. Currently, it is closed as we need a name and whether or not Mr. Strjdens wishes to charge for his services.

Quests

• Once again, we need a new chief. Dmitri Kaminski, is now hiring chiefs!
• Vodka for everyone! Journey to our Somalian neighbors to spread the Vodka love!
• The phenomena of the number above Stalin's head remains a mystery. Journey to Paris to find somebody who may know something! (10 or more intelligence required for quest)
• There's a new Allah, but the believers of Stalin are confused! A riot may potentially commence if you don't quell them.

Post Actions! Go!

 

[Jehoshua]

ooc: and who said that lightning bolt was a bad idea

 

[LordNwahs6]

Spread the philosophy of Daedalism to the town folk.

Also, I want to boost my Sociability skill for 20 gold.

 

[Tycho]

Go to spread the vodka love to the Somalians.

 

[Yoshiegg737]

Also, I want to boost my Sociability skill for 20 gold.

Well, before I forget, I'll do it now

 

[momo1000]

Abdul Rahman:

Use my prestige to take control of the soon to be built Diamond Mine.

Spend 20 Gold on purchasing Sociability lessons from the Talent Shop.

Also, can you update the "Most Prestigious" list?

 

[Yoshiegg737]

Spend 20 Gold on purchasing Sociability lessons from the Talent Shop.

Also, can you update the "Most Prestigious" list?[/B]

I was in the middle of doing that, actually

And I'll do your stat upgrade now

 

[Tycho]

OOC: A question that's been nagging at me for awhile now. Do we gain prestiege if we murder someone?

 

[Yoshiegg737]

OOC: A question that's been nagging at me for awhile now. Do we gain prestiege if we murder someone?

Well, that depends on who your murdering. You can PM me beforehand if you wish to ask whether the person you wish to murder will have negative consequences

 

[Tycho]

Well, that depends on who your murdering. You can PM me beforehand if you wish to ask whether the person you wish to murder will have negative consequences

Was planning to do it because listing my possible murder target would probably not be good...

 

[Jehoshua]

proclaim that Stalin was a false god and that I am Allah (pointing to lightning as a proof), while also explaining fundamentals of the true teachings of Allah to the people so that they may clear their souls of the deceptions of Stalin.

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to sum up the fundamentals of the true teaching I will be explaining in my order, they are

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general principles

:Allah is the only God
:Suffering is caused by selfish desires (example, Stalin wanted power for himself and thus caused suffering)
:Stalin was a deciever, who blinded the minds of the people
:Allah is the most gracious, most merciful
:Allah is inscrutable
:All human beings are children of allah, the most gracious, Allah mourns violence amongst the human family.
:Allah's dominion is spiritual and universal, no earthly nation shalt be ruled directly by Him, for he is the most high, the gracious, the merciful
:The fullness of truth is hidden to all but Allah, all faiths which worship allah and follow his fundamental teachings are to be tolerated as brother faiths to ones own, each watched and judged by Allah, the most gracious, most merciful.
:Allah, the most gracious, most merciful has no qualms with philosophy, so long as it does not reject outright Allah.
:War is just only when it is done righteously by its actors, and when it is initiated for a righteous cause. Only then is it permitted in the grace of Allah.

positive commandments (do these things)

:worship Allah with all your soul, mind and strength
:love thy neighbour as yourself
:give alms to the poor and solace to the suffering
:go forth and spread the worship of allah to all nations
:govern yourselves according to the precepts of Allah, for man has been given intelligence to look after its own governance
:be merciful to your enemies
:do all things well and shun laziness
:act in the ways of peace, and bring serenity to your mind and to others in all things

negative commandments (do not do these things)

:thou shalt not murder
:thou shalt not worship false gods (stalin in particular)
:thou shalt not drink wine, whisky, rum or sake. (vodka is permissable)
:thou shalt not steal
:thou shalt not consort or have relations with the bearbearians
:thou shalt not have relations with your neighbours wife
:thou shalt not consume human flesh
:thou shalt not spread untrue slander about your fellows
:thou shalt not suffer a mime to live amongst you
:thou shalt not blaspheme the name of Allah
:thou shalt not create a likeness of Allah, the incomparable

 

[Red_Spy]

I wish take command of the Russian Government for this turn and this turn only, will you oblige me citizens?

Orders (If they let me do this): Set up a socialist economy for our fledgling nation, and write a Constitution. The New Government is a democracy, with the leader ruling for 3 turns. He is to have a Vice President, who is in charge of the military and production in the cities, while the President manages Science, Spending, Diplomacy. Religion is not part of the government, however the different religions are allowed to preach, and set up churches, as long as they are deemed that they will not harm the state.

I think everyone can agree on this.

For the GM: Its the same order

 

[Caragus]

Spread Daedalism.

Spread the philosophy of Daedalism to the town folk.

Thank you, brother Niko. Maybe our combined influence will do what mine alone did not.

 

[Caragus]

I wish take command of the Russian Government for this turn and this turn only, will you oblige me citizens?

Orders (If they let me do this): Set up a socialist economy for our fledgling nation, and write a Constitution. The New Government is a democracy, with the leader ruling for 3 turns. He is to have a Vice President, who is in charge of the military and production in the cities, while the President manages Science, Spending, Diplomacy. Religion is not part of the government, however the different religions are allowed to preach, and set up churches, as long as they are deemed non-violent, and will not harm the state.

I think everyone can agree on this.

I agree to your proposal.

 

[Jehoshua]

Set up a socialist economy for our fledgling nation, and write a Constitution. The New Government is a democracy, with the leader ruling for 3 turns. He is to have a Vice President, who is in charge of the military and production in the cities, while the President manages Science, Spending, Diplomacy. Russia recognises that there is no God but Allah. All religions are allowed to set up churches, as long as they worship Allah and follow the fundamental teachings of Allah, and so long that they are deemed to not be harmful to Russia.

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This amended proposal would be more pleasing to Allah

 

[Red_Spy]

Allah is the spiritual head and God of Russia. All religions are allowed to set up churches, as long as they worship Allah and follow the fundamental teachings of Allah, and so long that they are deemed to not be harmful to Russia.

I am sorry, but I can not support this. We need to allow people the right to let them decide what they believe rather than force a religion onto them. You may be the Spiritual Head of your Church, but a official religion for the entirety of Russia can not be proclaimed. However, the state will promise you that it will not interfere with your affairs, as long as they are not causing trouble. Would you like to discuss this more?

 

[Caragus]

I am sorry, but I can not support this. We need to allow people the right to let them decide what they believe rather than force a religion onto them. You may be the Spiritual Head of your Church, but a official religion for the entirety of Russia can not be proclaimed. However, the state will promise you that it will not interfere with your affairs, as long as they are not causing trouble. Would you like to discuss this more?

I agree. Leave religion out of politics.

 

[Jehoshua]

ooc: I deleted the spiritual head part before you posted, I decided against that particular wording since it could be interpreted (as you seem to have done) as spiritual headship in a temporal sense of a single church, when in fact I did not intend that.

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Allah is the spiritual head of all churches and all peoples, for there is no God but Allah and all true churches worship only Allah. We would suggest that you alter your proposal as to the suggestion of Allah, for indeed to reject us, is showing utmost ingratitude to us. You would spit before we who smote down the false god with our lightning, we who permitted the people the opportunity to chose their path by casting Stalin out and who through our intercession ensured your liberation from tyranny.

 

[Red_Spy]

What about Daedalists, Rahmanists, Navalists, Communists, Stalinists, and Vodkarians? None of them seem to think you are the god of Russia. By making you God in that manner, it excludes them, and they also make up a large portion of the population. Excluding them would make them angry, leading to violence and strife. Do you want that? We need to stand beside the face we need freedom of religion, not an official church.