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Yeah future tech's just increses your score but I would'nt waste time and money with it.
Final map of Rise of Rome
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HalfBadger
The Great Whackyness
Thanks, if I had known that before, I would have used that money to bribe Carthage to attack Greece, instead of Greece making them attack me.
Lucky Dragon
Triskaidekaphiliac
Well, here's mine. I played as Macedonia, so this looks a bit different then the rest. Everyone else who posted maps seems to have played as Rome, so I thought I'd add some variety to the thread. 
EDIT: Well, there was one other Macedonian victory, and one Persian, but all the rest were Rome...
Notable points:
I started out by colonizing to the north and using my armies to conquer Asia Minor. The plan was to carve out a nice little empire there, then finish up by taking down Rome. Unfortunately, Persia was not cooperative, and I eventually had to eliminate them entirely to rid myself of that menace.
Meanwhile, Rome and Carthage were going at it hammer-and-tongs, and Hannibal was doing a pretty decent job of holding his own. At one point, Rome sicced the Egyptians on Carthage, and Carthage mopped them up without too much trouble.
The Celts did pretty well too, (as you can see from the final map) wiping out the Goths and carving out a large empire for themselves.
By the time I finally finished with Persia and started in on Rome, they had Legionary III units, so my invasion was more difficult than anticipated. Fortunately, the Celts declared war on Rome just a couple of turns before I did, so the Romans were distracted and I was able to hit them from behind. In spite of this fortuituous event, I was running out of time, so I ended up having to attack Carthage in order to accumulate the necessary territory and population.
I can't stess enough how tough those Legionary III units are, but to get a rough idea just how powerful they are, consider those few Roman cities remaining on the map. Those are what was left of Rome when I broke off my campaign with Rome to tackle Carthage. Even with their much more powerful economy, the Celts were unable to take any of those cities due to the Legionary III units.
EDIT: Well, there was one other Macedonian victory, and one Persian, but all the rest were Rome...
Notable points:
- Emperor Difficulty
- I finished with 3 turns to spare
- 20% of world area
- 54% of world population
I started out by colonizing to the north and using my armies to conquer Asia Minor. The plan was to carve out a nice little empire there, then finish up by taking down Rome. Unfortunately, Persia was not cooperative, and I eventually had to eliminate them entirely to rid myself of that menace.
Meanwhile, Rome and Carthage were going at it hammer-and-tongs, and Hannibal was doing a pretty decent job of holding his own. At one point, Rome sicced the Egyptians on Carthage, and Carthage mopped them up without too much trouble.
The Celts did pretty well too, (as you can see from the final map) wiping out the Goths and carving out a large empire for themselves.
By the time I finally finished with Persia and started in on Rome, they had Legionary III units, so my invasion was more difficult than anticipated. Fortunately, the Celts declared war on Rome just a couple of turns before I did, so the Romans were distracted and I was able to hit them from behind. In spite of this fortuituous event, I was running out of time, so I ended up having to attack Carthage in order to accumulate the necessary territory and population.
I can't stess enough how tough those Legionary III units are, but to get a rough idea just how powerful they are, consider those few Roman cities remaining on the map. Those are what was left of Rome when I broke off my campaign with Rome to tackle Carthage. Even with their much more powerful economy, the Celts were unable to take any of those cities due to the Legionary III units.
Frollo
Prince
Good job, Lucky Dragon 
Can't wait to see your map.
Can't wait to see your map.
Lucky Dragon
Triskaidekaphiliac
Frollo
Prince
Wow, I'm impressed
And an interesting civ to choose. I wouldn't dare to play the Greeks myself.
Did you take Carthage from the Carthaginians or from Rome? You never mentioned a war with Carthage, so I'm just wondering.
And an interesting civ to choose. I wouldn't dare to play the Greeks myself.
Did you take Carthage from the Carthaginians or from Rome? You never mentioned a war with Carthage, so I'm just wondering.
Lucky Dragon
Triskaidekaphiliac
I would rate the civs as follows:
Carthage (most difficult)
Macedonia
Persia
Rome (Easiest)
Persia has the best starting position, but Rome is easier because they have better offensive AND defensive units available to them. Carthage is probably the most difficult due to their poor starting position and being locked into war with Rome.
I was at peace with Carthage for the whole game up until I conquered Rome. Then I attacked them because I needed more land to get my 20% for a domination victory. I took the islands of Corsica, Sardinia, and most of their cities in Egypt and the middle east, plus Carthage and a couple of the neighboring cities right at the last in a final push. Then I made peace with them and got two cities they had taken from the Scythians in exchange for peace. This was just insurance to make sure I had my 20% plus a little extra. The hardest part of the war with Carthage was dealing with their fleet. The Macedonians start out with a respectable fleet, and a good position to dominate the Black Sea and the eastern Med, but once I started taking those islands, I had to take on their fleet, and it was a tough proposition indeed. I think the reason they were able to hold onto Sicily and the other islands in their war with Rome was because the Romans were unable to overpower their fleet.
I'm planning on replaying the scenario as Carthage. I'll post the results here when I'm done.
Originally posted by Xen
well, out of everyones map, seems like I'm the only opne to make a true medittreaen emire, with, by the end of my gaem, my territory bearing close resemblence to that of the mid-Roman repubilc
Only Xen...
Justus II
General Staff
@Xen,
Did you destroy Carthage first, and then Macedon, or Macedon first? Also, what difficulty was that? I had wanted to take more of the eastern med, but by the time I took out the Celts and Carthage, and Egypt (from Carthage), I ended up hitting the 50% population limit before I even took the last Carthaginian city in Gaza. If I play it again, I was thinking of increasing the pop and territory requirements, to like 33% land and 66% pop, to force the Romans to grow to their historical proportions. The only thing I was worried about is if Persia gets into Scythia, that area is far more fertile and productive on this map than historically, IMHO.
Did you destroy Carthage first, and then Macedon, or Macedon first? Also, what difficulty was that? I had wanted to take more of the eastern med, but by the time I took out the Celts and Carthage, and Egypt (from Carthage), I ended up hitting the 50% population limit before I even took the last Carthaginian city in Gaza. If I play it again, I was thinking of increasing the pop and territory requirements, to like 33% land and 66% pop, to force the Romans to grow to their historical proportions. The only thing I was worried about is if Persia gets into Scythia, that area is far more fertile and productive on this map than historically, IMHO.
I fprget the setting to be honest, but as it happend, I had just finished takeing the med islands from Carthage, and, seeing other wise blatant Punic (carthaginian) superiorty in umbers on the sea, i decided that the next target would be Hispania- then, as it happend, because I had the aggressivness et up all the way, the greeks, after demanding, and the official Roman refusal for a tech, they declared war on me- haveing the means to go and conqoure greece before Carthage, I focused on it, amassing severla armies along the way- by the end of the conquest, i had 7 armies! 2 of them were legionary II's, and the other 5 were legionary III's (I felt it was better to wait till at leas tthe II's rolled arounf before using my armies), these woukd eventualyl becvome the centerpeice of my strategy, especially agaisnt persia, as it became HUGE, and, no less then 3 times sent HUGE waves of 30-40+ troops, mostlly immortals in the first invasion, and always heavy cav in the others, alway out numbered, it may armies, and swift manuvering my them, tricking the computer into retreating b garrisoning two armies in one city, makeing it nearlyl impregnable to assualt, and then going out, and attacking some troops with them, uopn which, the cirty, then only defended by one garrison and an elite legionary, wsa sopen to assualt- that said, eventually, after a great deal fo fighting, my armies were worn out, and I pulled them to a differnt city, where, two garrison troops valientlly defended, and won every battle from a HUGE stack of immortal, needles to say, i was impressed endflesslyl with this, and have gained a new found respect for these troops in that scenario
SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
You're missing parts of Libya and France in your empire Xen. 
I said mid Roman republic, all said, wto get the real mid-republic, i ennd to ditch egypt, and most of the levant, and anatolia, actually get all the land between Egypt and carthage, and ditch the land west of the closest western city to carthage, get all of Hispania, and southern Gual, and generalyl make the northern border more unifom 
well, there are always goals for next time I play the scen arnt there
well, there are always goals for next time I play the scen arnt there
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
Xen, you conquered like that on purpose!
mr999
Chieftain
Here's the ending map of my game on Monarch with Carthage. 20% of land and 50% of population, with 7 rounds left.
As soon as I was able to train War Elephants, I started my big non-stop war against Rome.
I had already captured the last roman city on Sicilly by then.
My scientific efforts in the beginning had went very well, leaving me with a scientific leader, which I built the Great Library with. Now I wouldn't worry about the scientific issues anymore, and at the same time I developed a great wealth, which I would use in the end by hurrying Temples in my bording cities, which resulted in bigger landmass. 200-300 gold was nothing to my wealth of 10 000+ gold.
The war went very well, and I exterminated the Romans in about 15-20 rounds. I would never have done it without Hannibal though. I did the right thing by letting him controlling 3 elephants, instead of 3 slightly stronger Heavy Cavalry. The elephants with their extra hp made Hannibal very persistant.
After the Romans was out, I concentrated about 50% on expanding, and 50% on Heavy Cavalry's that I would use later, when conquering the Celts. Maybe I waited too long, because the Celts had by then destroyed the Goths and had also expanded to all of France. I would have won on the score very easy because of my happy citizens, but I wanted to win in a more honorable way, and therefore with 15 rounds left, I went on the offense with the goal to conquer the Celts, and the war went very good as I had conquered more than 10 cities in the first 4 rounds. And after round 8 I had won the game by having 20% of the landmass and 50% of the population.
As soon as I was able to train War Elephants, I started my big non-stop war against Rome.
I had already captured the last roman city on Sicilly by then.
My scientific efforts in the beginning had went very well, leaving me with a scientific leader, which I built the Great Library with. Now I wouldn't worry about the scientific issues anymore, and at the same time I developed a great wealth, which I would use in the end by hurrying Temples in my bording cities, which resulted in bigger landmass. 200-300 gold was nothing to my wealth of 10 000+ gold.
The war went very well, and I exterminated the Romans in about 15-20 rounds. I would never have done it without Hannibal though. I did the right thing by letting him controlling 3 elephants, instead of 3 slightly stronger Heavy Cavalry. The elephants with their extra hp made Hannibal very persistant.
After the Romans was out, I concentrated about 50% on expanding, and 50% on Heavy Cavalry's that I would use later, when conquering the Celts. Maybe I waited too long, because the Celts had by then destroyed the Goths and had also expanded to all of France. I would have won on the score very easy because of my happy citizens, but I wanted to win in a more honorable way, and therefore with 15 rounds left, I went on the offense with the goal to conquer the Celts, and the war went very good as I had conquered more than 10 cities in the first 4 rounds. And after round 8 I had won the game by having 20% of the landmass and 50% of the population.
Frollo
Prince
My final map as Rome on regent:
For the major part of the game, I left Macedon untouched. Instead, I provided them with iron, horses and luxuries, for I wanted them to act as a strong and loyal buffer between me and Persia.
This worked well until the very late game, so the Persians didn't posed a real threat and never came even close to the domination treshold. It was only in the last few turns that Persia finally fought their way into Macedonian lands, but they destroyed the cities instead of capturing them.
In the end, I had about 8-9 armies running around. I developed an interesting strategy, putting only 2 legions in an army instead of 3. After all, an army of 2 can move as fast and attack as many times as an army of 3. I thought, why put those loose legionaries in armies when I can use them to promote and generate even more leaders? So that's what I did and it worked well!
This certainly wasn't one of my best games ever though, for I didn't even manage to wipe out Carthage. But what counts is that after 24 hours and 111 turns of playing, I won, owning 22% land and 51% pop. My final score was 2964 points.
For the major part of the game, I left Macedon untouched. Instead, I provided them with iron, horses and luxuries, for I wanted them to act as a strong and loyal buffer between me and Persia.
This worked well until the very late game, so the Persians didn't posed a real threat and never came even close to the domination treshold. It was only in the last few turns that Persia finally fought their way into Macedonian lands, but they destroyed the cities instead of capturing them.
In the end, I had about 8-9 armies running around. I developed an interesting strategy, putting only 2 legions in an army instead of 3. After all, an army of 2 can move as fast and attack as many times as an army of 3. I thought, why put those loose legionaries in armies when I can use them to promote and generate even more leaders? So that's what I did and it worked well!
This certainly wasn't one of my best games ever though, for I didn't even manage to wipe out Carthage. But what counts is that after 24 hours and 111 turns of playing, I won, owning 22% land and 51% pop. My final score was 2964 points.
I just played the Rise of Rome Conquest on Emperor, but after having finished Carthage, Egypt, and most of Greece, I quit. I find this scenario too heavy on micro management. I just didn't have the energy to build another hundred legions for the upcoming invasion of the huge Persian empire.
Ummmmm..... micromanagement is the whole principle behind the civ series.
unscratchedfoot
War is a good thing.
watorrey, your attitude could use some micromanagement. And may your milk always be lukewarm and your potatoes undercooked.
Just joking 
