finally got a suitable start for Dance of the Aurora

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As it says in the title; I've had several desert faith, stone circles, religious idols, etc starts but until I started my current game, I'd never had a start suitable for Dance of the Aurora.

However, it took playing on an ice age script. (Specifically ice age -> small islands -> legendary resources)

While just about every tundra tile near my capital was covered with forest; four of these tiles had a Salt luxury underneath. In addition 1 Deer was Tundra no-forest. I did end up because of the pantheon chopping the 3 tundra forest deer.

Chop forest & Mine the tile for +1 food & faith increase, some free hammers, and no decrease in hammers. Yes, please!

Edit:
This is as Indonesia. My other 3 cities are all on different landmasses to take advantage of the extra spice luxaries.

City #2: Founded on a three tile island in the empty tile; other two tiles having a luxury & more deer. This city will evenually expand to take in a tundra-forest range on my starting landmass (no resources).

City #3: Founded on a one tile snow island (empty); three tiles away from the Lake yielding 6 food. Tile in that direction bought the turn I founded the city. In another direction takes in snow Iron.

City #4: Founded a bit further away, also snow bound, but takes in Whale.

At the moment cities #3 & 4 are being boot strapped by an internal (sea) hammer route each.
 
I played one last night, standard pangaea, with france. the start had 5 tundra no-forest deer and 3 salt. Not awesome, but it was playable.
 
Everytime I see a tundra start I click on "New Game". I hate tundra starts. They need something like a Petra built for tundra to give me a good reason to stay there.
 
I think I'd only start on tundra if either in the conditions the OP described, or on a lower difficulty without such conditions. Besides the raging barbs, you'd probably be left alone long enough over there in the boonies to develop something halfway decent, yes?

And I'm with ya on the trees, Fei Ling. I just recently stayed in a small tundra town in Alaska and was like "where is the beautiful forest/mountain landscape Alaska is famed for? Ohhhh yeah. Tundra." They did have trees, but they were very sad, droopy, and skinny. I don't think I knew what tundra was before playing Civ 2. Lol.
 
I actually had a half decent Dance of Aurora start last night for the first time . It wasnt brilliant but from my first two citys I had about 4-5 workable tiles ( some lux , some hills , some deer with others that it would be expandable into . As it tuns out my next two citys ended up with a fairly decent amount of desert but desert folklore had gone anyway .
 
I think I'd only start on tundra if either in the conditions the OP described, or on a lower difficulty without such conditions. Besides the raging barbs, you'd probably be left alone long enough over there in the boonies to develop something halfway decent, yes?

In my own case, yes; no other AI on my landmass. In fact no city states were on it either. (Related to me thinning out the city states to 1:1 ratio) Several city states near by.

Yes, multiple barb camps that I needed to clean out, especally the one that was spawning barb ships left & right (it was made it too risky to have cargo ships until it was removed.)

I did have to cash buy tiles on the 3rd ring on the next landmass north to avoid losing them to the neighboring English AI to the north.

And I also had to cash buy several other 3rd ring tiles in city numbers #2 & #3 when a Mongolian settler came from half way around the world to avoid losing tiles I'd care about without relying on war. (I had no need of another worker)

The capital is in excellent shape; city #2 is also in decent shape. Cities number #3 & #4 didn't really start to develop until it was possible to send internal hammer routes to them.

Note that one of the other landmasses though did have 2 AIs starting on the same landmass.
 
One of the best games I ever had was the Byzantines and in the map settings I'd set it to arid. Basically, there's hardly any grassland so with my capital on a thin strip of plains, Desert Folklore gave me loads of faith from above. First to religion so naturally I pick Dance of the Aurora to get faith from the tundra in the south. Coupled with Holy Warriors, my army was unstoppable. Before BNW, it was the only game when I struggled for money though.
 
I rarely play a Tundra start. With Dance of the Aurora, that would require you to work a 1 :c5food: tile just to get the 1 :c5faith: bonus. That doesn't really sound appealing to me. Mined tundra hills are good though.

At least with desert, eventually you are able to get 2 :c5food:. Tundra never improves food wise.
 
I rarely play a Tundra start. With Dance of the Aurora, that would require you to work a 1 :c5food: tile just to get the 1 :c5faith: bonus. That doesn't really sound appealing to me. Mined tundra hills are good though.

At least with desert, eventually you are able to get 2 :c5food:. Tundra never improves food wise.

In my particular start, all the Tundra within 3 tiles of my capital had a resource underneath (in my case Salt or Deer); there was no empty tundra.
 
i played an incredible tundra start with Inca. those hills all became huge food/hammer producers with Terrace Farms. i was actually angry at those sheep for being lesser quality tiles. otherwise i play them as an experiment but rarely finish those games.
 
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