Football Mod?

[Grey Fox]

Originally posted by Redking
For instance, most of the people in the world who play what I call "soccer", call it instead futbol (NOT football, as you guys so generously insist).

Well in UK they call Soccer "Football", and in Germany they call it Futbol as you said, but Fut means "Foot" and Bol means "Ball".

And in swedish it is called Fotboll, Fot = "Foot", and "Boll" = Ball.

The reason for this is very simple, Football (soccer), is played with your feet!

What does Soccer mean (besides Football) anyways?


To me, Football is a more logical name for Soccer. And American Football, they should call it the American Rugby or something...

 

[Kenric af Grashen]

Originally posted by Grey Fox
Well in UK they call Soccer "Football", and in Germany they call it Futbol as you said

Actually in Germany its Fußball ,sorry i just had to correct you.

 

[Rhye]

I think Futbol is spanish and french
Futebol is portuguese instead

 

[Grey Fox]

Originally posted by Sa~Craig


Actually in Germany its Fußball ,sorry i just had to correct you.

Yeah I know...

 

[TVA22]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! Why does it matter how you spell it?!!! Geeze, why don't you all discuss the mod instead of how much you think americans, the only world superpower, are a bunch of pansies?

 

[Redking]

this is the etymology of "soccer" from etymonline.com:

"soccer - 1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang, from a shortened form of assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football)."

According to this source, at least, it seems it was the British who originally used the term "soccer" to differentiate that code from rugby variants.

All the football variants of the English-speaking world were codified at one time or another during the 19th century.

From my own knowledge, I know that American football was also codified in a collegiate environment, and yes it evolved from the stable of various rugby codes (formal and informal) used in the English speaking world. American football was once heavily dependent on kicking, and grew less so for a number of reasons which I'm sure you guys don't care about.

I will say in the defense of American football that it's much more conducive to a mod because of its abundancy of specialized roles and high number of players (compared to English football). It's also a highly strategic game. But I don't care, because I play Civ for civs, not sports, simulation.

I suspect the use of "football" in Great Britain comes from a Spanish influence. I suspect that Spanish-speakers are the world's majority of the sport and do pronounce and spell it differently than do those of you insisting that your definition of "football" is orthodoxy.

 

[Rhye]

Originally posted by Redking
I suspect the use of "football" in Great Britain comes from a Spanish influence. I suspect that Spanish-speakers are the world's majority of the sport and do pronounce and spell it differently than do those of you insisting that your definition of "football" is orthodoxy.

Great Britain? Spain?

Football is everywhere known as the world's most important sport, "European" football.

And who said that Spanish speakers are the majority of the sport????

 

[Redking]

Who said? I said.

Do some quick math. Add up the populations of the english-speaking world, excepting the U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (and probably SA too). There's yer english-speaking "European Football" fans.

Now add up the the populations of spanish-speaking Latin America, and Spain itself.

Get it?

And for most of the world it is NOT the most important sport.

Australasia? Cricket or rugby.
Indian subcontinent? Cricket.
Carribean? Cricket and baseball.
US? American football and baseball.
Mexico? "European" football and baseball.
Canada? Hockey.
Japan? Baseball.
Korea? Baseball.
Taiwan? Baseball.
China? Probably table tennis still.
That leaves South America, much of Europe, and Africa (except SA) for your beloved "European" football.

Will you please go stuff yourself?

 

[Rhye]

Originally posted by Redking
Who said? I said.

Do some quick math. Add up the populations of the english-speaking world, excepting the U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (and probably SA too). There's yer english-speaking "European Football" fans.

Now add up the the populations of spanish-speaking Latin America, and Spain itself.

Get it?

OK, you mean Spanish LANGUAGE
But you forget that football was invented in England! So the name isn't translated from spanish

Originally posted by Redking
And for most of the world it is NOT the most important sport.

Australasia? Cricket or rugby.
Indian subcontinent? Cricket.
Carribean? Cricket and baseball.
US? American football and baseball.
Mexico? "European" football and baseball.
Canada? Hockey.
Japan? Baseball.
Korea? Baseball.
Taiwan? Baseball.
China? Probably table tennis still.
That leaves South America, much of Europe, and Africa (except SA) for your beloved "European" football.

Will you please go stuff yourself?

Europe -> ALL of Europe but France and Ireland where it's the 2nd
Korea -> South Korea has been playing the World Cup for 20 years. And it has a stronger team than US I wouldn't be so sure that baseball is of more importance.
Japan, Korea and China -> Since WC2002 European football importance and organization is growing quickly. Just think of mass hysteria with european teams.

Plus, you forgot the Middle East: all those countries have a national team and a championship. Many pay $$$ for European teams to go to play friendly matches there. Football players are superstars.

I can say that European football is the most played in the world, not baseball.

 

[Lord Polo]

what would be good if some one actually came up with a mod for proper football

 

[Rhye]

A quote from here: http://www.clarkson.edu/~gevargig/History.html

soccer is without a doubt the most watched and played sport in the world enjoyed by over 8 billion people. This 1994 World Cup that took place in the United States was watched by an estimated 33 billion people around the world for almost 27 days. This makes soccer the single most watched event in the world's history not surpassed even by the Olympics. This sport is bigger than baseball, football, and basketball combined.

This is written by an american

 

[Rhye]

Uh, this is nice:
http://www.goecuador.com/soccer_game/editorial_geo.html

It includes:
Given this statement, what can be deduced from America's relative neglect of soccer, the world's most popular sport?

Contrast the above indifference of the general American public to the feelings of other countries around the world when their soccer team qualified -or failed to qualify- for the World Cup. For example, in Ecuador, after a 1-1 tie with Uruguay clinched qualification, the country convulsed in nationalistic joy, buoyed by a new sense of confidence. China, a rival military superpower to the USA, celebrated for a full week their first ever qualification to a world cup. In Iran, the young Western leaning masses were ready to revolt against the conservative Ayatollahs, because they suspected their involvement in sabotaging the national team's qualification.

 

[Rhye]

Another article:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/05/30/worldcup/

If all that makes soccer sound more like a religion than a game, well, it is a kind of religion, one practiced by all races on all continents (again, excepting those agnostic Americans).

...

All that is background noise, the ambient Sturm und Drang that the soccer world seems to require when staging its monthlong quadrennial championship spectacle, the granddaddy of all media sports events. (No, Americans, nothing else comes even close: not the Super Bowl, not the World Series, not the Olympics.) Somewhere around a billion people will watch the World Cup final broadcast live from Yokohama on June 30, and if they have to skip work or get up early or stay up late, they will.

 

[Rhye]

Another one:
http://www.washdiplomat.com/00-08/b3_8_00.html

Americans still don’t really pay attention to the world’s most popular sport of soccer, despite hosting the 1994 World Cup tournament.

 

[Redking]

There aren't 8 billion people in the world.

More importantly, and this is probably beyond your skills of comprehension: the point I've so pointlessly tried to make is that neither I nor the vast majority of the English speaking world give a rat's ass about "soccer". Where I grew up it's a sport for little children and that's it. I don't have to watch, respect, appreciate, or (once again) give a rat's ass about "soccer". Nor should I have to care the least what YOU call that sport.

I'd rather watch lawn bowls than watch "soccer".

Please, enjoy your sport, feel so very special because so many lovely people enjoy it, but do shut up.

 

[Rhye]

First of all, I have not written anything quoted above. So errors of numbers aren't of my business.

Second, why are you speaking of the English world? Is this a forum of English and North American people only? Ask the moderators if you're unsure...
I an not english native speaking. And we only speak english because it's an international language.
What you don't understand is that YOU are the different, not the others. You should read some of the articles in the link above. If you and all the Americans don't care about soccer, the rest of the world doesn't give a damn.

I write now "Please, enjoy your sport" like you did, and "but do shut up" if the rest of the world speaks other language or play other sports. You must accept this.
You must accept that many people get irritated at a misunderstanding of the name. If poor Sneus wrote "American Football" and didn't write "the gretest sport in the world" probably this thread would be about his mod, and I would be dowloading it instead of replying here to such a close-minded person.