Frequently Asked Questions - (FAQ)

[Phillip_martin]

The naming convention for the GOTM and QSC is <playername>_<date>.SAV

The date should have the bc/ad as a prefix so my QSC submission is named “phil_martin_bc1000.SAV”. There is no overlap between game submissions so the game name is not required and this naming convention then allows an alphabetical sort of submissions by player name.

I recommend separate save folders for each GOTM to keep games for at least 1 GOTM after submission in case of send file corruptions, requests for additional save games, or memory joggers when contributing to the forum.

 

[Creepster]

Hopefully this answers your questions. The QSC and The GOTM are two seperate submissions.

When submitting your Game of the Month, please include the following info:

Name or Membername (please use your registered CFC forum name)
Final score
Date of finish (Date in the game, not when you submit)
Way of ending
That is: victory/defeat and how
(Conquest, Domination, UN, Cultural, Spaceship, or Histographic)
Saved games (at the turn before the game ends and optional around 10 AD)
Please put these saved games in one zip file to reduce the size.
Please rename the saved games this way:
Membername_xxYYYY.sav For example: JohnSmith_ad1210.sav.

If you ahve any other questions let me know.

 

[GenMarshall]

I think I have sent in my QSC with the wrong naming conversion. It is the proper save (Saved on the 1000BC mark) along with a Timeline. I beleve I have submited the save that is named CG_QSC18.save. Should I resend it with the proper nameing conversion? Now that I have learned about this. CG_QSC18.sav should suppost to be named CivGeneral_bc1000.sav. Sorry for any trouble :s.

Note: I have sent Creepster a PM regarding this

Edit: Problem solved, Everything is undercontrol

 

[Darkness]

Originally posted by CivGeneral
I think I have sent in my QSC with the wrong naming conversion. It is the proper save (Saved on the 1000BC mark) along with a Timeline. I beleve I have submited the save that is named CG_QSC18.save. Should I resend it with the proper nameing conversion? Now that I have learned about this. CG_QSC18.sav should suppost to be named CivGeneral_bc1000.sav. Sorry for any trouble :s.

Note: I have sent Creepster a PM regarding this

You've pm'd Creepster, so I suggest you wait until he or cracker gets back to you, just to avoid any confusion with mutiple saves flying around....

 

[RufRydyr]

Originally posted by Creepster
Hopefully this answers your questions. The QSC and The GOTM are two seperate submissions.


That is: victory/defeat and how
(Conquest, Domination, UN, Cultural, Spaceship, or Histographic)
Saved games (at the turn BEFORE the game ends and optional around 10 AD)
Please put these saved games in one zip file to reduce the size.
Please rename the saved games this way:
Membername_xxYYYY.sav For example: JohnSmith_ad1210.sav.

If you ahve any other questions let me know.

I thought it was changed to year AFTER victory. Could you clarify?

 

[Hurricane]

I couldn't find the Jason score calculator page. Link?

 

[Phillip_martin]

'ere you go

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/games/calculator.shtml

 

[Ribannah]

How come for GOTM#18 the Jason score is only a tiny fraction higher - or even lower - than the Firaxis score, even for speed games? (Wrong input of the max score?)

 

[Hurricane]

Thanks, Phillip_martin!

 

[Ribannah]

If I meet more than one victory condition on the same turn, do I get to choose which one counts for the GOTM, regardless of which one the game gives priority to?

 

[Phillip_martin]

Originally posted by RufRydyr


I thought it was changed to year AFTER victory. Could you clarify?

It is AFTER the turn you won or the save BEFORE the turn you lost.

Originally posted by Ribannah
How come for GOTM#18 the Jason score is only a tiny fraction higher - or even lower - than the Firaxis score, even for speed games? (Wrong input of the max score?)

Unless the date is late on in the game the score goes up for me. Not sure what you mean. An average internal score (lets say 4000) and and average finish date
(say 1700ad) will increase by 1000 points in Jason for most victory conditions.

Originally posted by Ribannah
If I meet more than one victory condition on the same turn, do I get to choose which one counts for the GOTM, regardless of which one the game gives priority to?

Unless the game is obviously milked and recorded as a multi victory, it is your choice which victory to take and submit. [Phillip hears a multitude of clicks on above link to Jason around submission time ]

 

[SirPleb]

Originally posted by Ribannah
If I meet more than one victory condition on the same turn, do I get to choose which one counts for the GOTM, regardless of which one the game gives priority to?

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but:

I think it is always possible to control the victory you get. As an example (not sure if this is the kind of thing you are talking about) suppose that I had one rival city left in the game, and that if I raze it (i.e. conquest) I'll trigger domination because my borders will expand when it is gone and I'm that close to the limit. In this case if I want a conquest win, I could simply abandon a city or two before taking the last rival city and that would ensure that I'd get a conquest.

It seems to me that if there is a case where you can't control which victory the game awards then it should not be legitimate to choose - if the chosen victory can't be deliberately taken then it shouldn't be allowed. And on the other hand if it is possible to control which victory you get, then that's what should be done and the question becomes moot. I think the latter is always the case, so it shouldn't really be an issue - am I missing something?

 

[Bamspeedy]

Yeah, I think you should get whatever condition the game awarded you. In almost all cases, you can avoid the other victory condition that you don't want.

You could have the save before the last turn, as proof there was multiple ways of winning, but the victory condition would be taken from the save after you won.

 

[Ribannah]

Originally posted by Phillip_martin
Unless the date is late on in the game the score goes up for me. Not sure what you mean. An average internal score (lets say 4000) and and average finish date
(say 1700ad) will increase by 1000 points in Jason for most victory conditions.

Never mind. I see the final score includes 'normalizing' the maximum to 10,000. So if you have high Firaxis points early, your final score is lower than the Firaxis score.

Unless the game is obviously milked and recorded as a multi victory, it is your choice which victory to take and submit.

So what if it is? How do I record a multi victory, and is there any bonus for doing so? I understand that it has been done in the past, but only for 2050 AD when it doesn't matter for the final score and the awards which type it is. But in my game it matters.

I mean, I know how to avoid the domination limit, but what if I want more than one victory type to happen?

There is one not altogether unlikely case in PTW when you cannot avoid to meet two conditions, unless you sacrifice turns: if the Internet is needed to research the final tech but also puts you over the 100K culture.

 

[SirPleb]

Originally posted by Ribannah
There is one not altogether unlikely case in PTW when you cannot avoid to meet two conditions, unless you sacrifice turns: if the Internet is needed to research the final tech but also puts you over the 100K culture.

My opinion (and that's all it is) is still that only the victory or victories the game actually gives should count. I think that part of the art in a multi-victory is that it be set up so that the turn before the victory can be loaded and finished, with simple steps and included instructions, in each of the possible ways.

E.g. if setting up for culture-100K and space, it should be possible from that final save to either finish the last space component or to finish one last city improvement which adds enough culture to pass the limit, thus triggering one or the other of the victories without triggering the other.

The Internet wouldn't necessarily make this any harder. If built many turns before the final save then it just factors into the regular calculations necessary to plan on reaching 99998 culture (or around there) in the final turn. If it is built very near the end, it makes it harder to calculate in advance because you'd have to count cities to predict its culture impact. Still possible though.

Whether claiming multi victories for other than 2050AD is allowed must be up to the GOTM staff of course. It would of course be very challenging to claim more than one victory which would have a shot at a medal

 

[Skyfish]

So what if it is? How do I record a multi victory, and is there any bonus for doing so? I understand that it has been done in the past, but only for 2050 AD when it doesn't matter for the final score and the awards which type it is.

No it has been done before 2050AD for example by Cartouche Bee who had a Multiple Victory win in 1585AD in GOTM15 (Russia).

 

[Ribannah]

OK, since apparently no official response to my question is forthcoming, I am assuming that with a multi-type victory the Jason score is automatically the highest of the ones available (ie based on the condition with the latest target date).

I've just played my last turn of GOTM#18 accordingly.

 

[Aeson]

Patience is a virtue... If you want a quicker response bring issues like this up in a PM to one/all of the GOTM Staff along with posting it. Sometimes we don't have the time to read every post in this forum every day (or even every other day), and sometimes even getting through PM's is daunting (at least in Cracker's case).

The victory type that you submit your game as is the one that we will use as the Jason score (if the game is possible to finish that way).

There is no bonus for finishing with multiple victory conditions, other than the recognition that it was done.

 

[Aeson]

If I meet more than one victory condition on the same turn, do I get to choose which one counts for the GOTM, regardless of which one the game gives priority to?

We rely on the player to set it up so that the victory condition they want to submit their game as is the one which triggers.

 

[Ribannah]

Aeson, that is not possible. The game has a set order by which it checks the victory conditions, the player cannot influence that order.

Edit: Your second post seems to contradict your first post.

Edit again: Let's try to simplify by saying that ALL conditions that are met simultaneously are triggered despite the fact that only one victory message appears.