Frequently Asked Questions

[QES]

Alright I see Warlords is in stores so here is the scoop:

There are no plans to make Fall from Heaven 2 into a warlords mod. There are some advantages to doing it, we would be able to use things like vassal states. But players without Warlords would be unable to play FfH (and there is no way we would try to maintain 2 versions).

At some later point we may switch it to a Warlords mod if that makes sense. But for now we will steal art, resources and cool ideas from Warlords that can be backreved and keep it a Civ4 only mod so that the largest possible amount of players can play it.

If there are any questions let me know. There is a link to the main FfH2 thread on the warlords CD in one of the mod readme's, Im curious to see how many new players it brings.

Its good to know your getting some love from CIV proper. Your on a CD mate, be proud!
-Qes

 

[Lord Vermillion]

So if you have Warlords will it still be possible to play this mod??? I was considering buying it today, but not if it isn't compatible with the current mod version.

 

[Kael]

So if you have Warlords will it still be possible to play this mod??? I was considering buying it today, but not if it isn't compatible with the current mod version.

Yeap, FfH works fine with and without warlords.

 

[Nikis-Knight]

Yeap, FfH works fine with and without warlords.

Perfect. So this means I can buy warlords for myself and give the original disc to my best friend as a wedding present. (With FfH burned onto another CD as well, of course.)

edit: or does that violate eula or something? If so I'd just put off buying expansion and buy another copy of original. Sorry for thread hijack.

 

[QES]

Perfect. So this means I can buy warlords for myself and give the original disc to my best friend as a wedding present. (With FfH burned onto another CD as well, of course.)

edit: or does that violate eula or something? If so I'd just put off buying expansion and buy another copy of original. Sorry for thread hijack.

What our friend Knight here means is that he's going to BUY a wonderful copy as a wedding present. For all of you whom are official Civ operators. (NIKIS! Icksnay on the esentpray of your own opycay.)

Yes. Yes NIKIS YOU CAN DO THAT. Yes.

-Qes

 

[Kael]

Perfect. So this means I can buy warlords for myself and give the original disc to my best friend as a wedding present. (With FfH burned onto another CD as well, of course.)

edit: or does that violate eula or something? If so I'd just put off buying expansion and buy another copy of original. Sorry for thread hijack.

No, you will need to use your origional Civ4 CD to play FfH and the Warlords CD to play Warlords.

 

[Jono]

Warlords just isn't worth it without FfH (someone had to say it).

 

[Sarisin]

Yes, I agree and that was my main reason for asking my question - I wanted to make sure I could keep playing future versions of FFh here in Thailand without worrying about having Warlords.

Anyone: I would still like to know what is necessary to set up FFh from scratch on a new machine. Do you need Civ 4, all three patches, the latest version of FFh, etc. Or, will Warlords have the patches so you can avoid that. I don't think the Civ 4 patches were cumulative, but I might be wrong.

Thanks

 

[strategyonly]

Just bought Warlords (Expansion) and nothing is compatible with CIV IV, all the MOD's, all the scenario's, maps, nothing? So either you have to play Warlords or CIV IV but can't combine them.

 

[mervvyn]

Yes, I agree and that was my main reason for asking my question - I wanted to make sure I could keep playing future versions of FFh here in Thailand without worrying about having Warlords.

Anyone: I would still like to know what is necessary to set up FFh from scratch on a new machine. Do you need Civ 4, all three patches, the latest version of FFh, etc. Or, will Warlords have the patches so you can avoid that. I don't think the Civ 4 patches were cumulative, but I might be wrong.

Thanks

FfH needs the vanilla 1.61 patch, which should be cumulative for all the previous vanilla patches. no idea about warlords, it's not out here for few more days.

 

[Jono]

Just bought Warlords (Expansion) and nothing is compatible with CIV IV, all the MOD's, all the scenario's, maps, nothing? Got to start from scratch? So either you have to play Warlords or CIV IV but can't combine them.

Was like this with all civ 3 expansions... Haven't played civ 2 or the original civ so I can't tell ya about those.

 

[rmac]

I have installed Warlords, and realize that FfH2 does NOT work out of the box.

In fact, Warlords crashed for me when I tried to copy the F2F 2014 directory to the Warlords Mod dir.

 

[Kael]

I have installed Warlords, and realize that FfH2 does NOT work out of the box.

In fact, Warlords crashed for me when I tried to copy the F2F 2014 directory to the Warlords Mod dir.

FfH2 is not a warlords mod. But Warlords doesn't overwrite your Civ4 install, so if you put your vanilla civ cd in you can load Fall from Heaven as you always have.

There are no plans to convert FfH to the Warlords codebase.

 

[rmac]

Kael,

I LOVE your mod, and frankly play it to the exclusion of vanilla C4.

That being said, this MOD is NOT able to run with the Original C4 disk with the Warlords installation. I mention a couple of issues:

1. Civilization4.exe - Requires the Warlords disk to run. WILL NOT run with my Original C4 disk.

2. Double-click my FfH2 save file (in my Original installation) - Warlords splash screen comes up, and WILL NOT start with the Original C4 disk.

I appreciate that you have no intention for adopting the Warlords content. And while I do play a LOT of FfH, it would be nice if you could create some patch (or even just instructions) that would allow Warlords folks to play FfH2. (Also because I'm probably a bit extreme in the amount of FfH2 that I play compared to the vanilla).

Thanks

 

[Silverkiss]

I have Warlords, and I can play both FfH II and Vanilla Civ IV, Warlords expansion doesn´t install in the same folder as Vanilla, instead on a sub-folder. You can run any of the two that you want.

 

[rmac]

Wow, I would really like to understand how you are able to do that.

I have Civ 4 w/ 1.61 and just installed Warlords. As mentioned in my previous post, the Civilization4.exe in my original folder asks for my Warlords disk.

Not cool. I just uninstalled Warlords so that I could run FfH2...

 

[Silverkiss]

Well, I run FfH II normally by pressing its icon (thats on his folder in the Mod´s folder) whit my Vanilla CD on...

 

[Marnid]

Q. What exactly does the fear promotion do?
A. Don't know can someone answer this?

 

[Kael]

Wow, I would really like to understand how you are able to do that.

I have Civ 4 w/ 1.61 and just installed Warlords. As mentioned in my previous post, the Civilization4.exe in my original folder asks for my Warlords disk.

Not cool. I just uninstalled Warlords so that I could run FfH2...

I think thats because you copied FfH under the Warlords/Mods folder. But it back in the Civ4/Mods folder and it will work correctly. I haven't had any problems running FfH with Warlords installed and Ive been doing it for quite a while.

 

[rmac]

Just to be clear, I observed the Warlords Disk requirement when I was running against original C4 installation with FfH folder in Original Mods folder.

I appreciate the comments. I have removed Warlords in order to get my FfH fix, I will probably experiment further in the future.