G-Major 15

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[img=right]http://www.civfanatics.net/methos/hof/staff/gauntlet.gif[/img]While the general Hall of Fame is an ongoing competition, we like to run time-definite competitions between updates that we call Gauntlets. Standard Hall of Fame rules (*) still apply, but any games meeting the settings will be counted towards the Gauntlet.

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Settings:
  • Victory Condition: Domination (though all victory conditions must be enabled)
  • Difficulty: Emperor
  • Starting Era: Ancient
  • Map Size: Standard
  • Map Type: Archipelago
  • Speed: Quick
  • Civ: Any
  • Opponents: Must include Inca (Huayna Capac)
  • Version: 1.74.001 or 2.13.001
  • Date: 26th August to 26th September 2007
The earliest finish date wins, with score as a tiebreaker.
See G-Major 15 for details.
 
Right. I've said it before, but this time I mean it. This major gauntlet would officially be IMPOSSIBLE for me. I only barely managed the previous Emperor domination, but one where you are isolated on an island and have to sail around to find everyone else before they come and invade you? No chance. Can't be done (on the difficult version of the game that I seem to have ended up with, at least).
 
Looks fun. I have one question: When you pick "archipelago," you are given some options (small islands, archipelago, snaky continents). Please clarify if we can us snaky continents for this -- I am inclined to think we should not be allowed to, as I think that looks to be contrary to what is intended by this challenge, but I just want to know for sure.
 
I only barely managed the previous Emperor domination, but one where you are isolated on an island and have to sail around to find everyone else before they come and invade you?

It's domination, so you don't have to actually find everybody - it's probably better to find nearby empty islands first, get a bunch of easy land, gather the troops, and then start conquering one-by-one until you hit the limit.
 
I was under the impression this will be easier than continent dom since the AI can't handle an archipelago map.

I'm going to try anyway, Emperor is the first level up I haven't yet beaten.

I'm thinking Ragnar or one of the Caesars? And low sea-level so galleys are more effective. Colossus is going to be pretty high priority I guess.

I've never played an Archipelago map yet anyway.

Quick speed is going to be pretty challenging though I think.

Surely things will get easier if you establish a few good production cities on a few islands.

EDIT: What is the max AI opponents, 9 or 10?

EDIT2: 10 opponents max. But when did cylindrical and toroid get banned for Oasis maps? (Not that it applies to this game of course). And has toroidal always been allowed for most maps?
 
Right, first test game abandoned after being beaten to the Great Library (wasted too much time building it so I'm going to start again, was just getting a feel for things anyway on this new [for me] map type).

I was playing as Ragnar, random opponents (10) except for the Incas of course.

I managed to found Hinduism straight away (and before anyone else got buddhism as well I think), while building a workboat despite not starting with mysticism.

Built stonehenge too, don't think that is worth it. Normally I get SH for domination but you need to found a few cities early for that to be cost effective, only space for 3-4 cities on my island. I did get a prophet for hindu shrine which meant I could run science at 100%. Only built 2 cities though.

No farmable land (no rivers) and the only resources on my island were iron, gold and sugar. Fish and crabs off the coast. Horse on another nearby island.

First to alphabet and metal casting out of the 3 civs I had met. Was building colossus when beaten to GLib.

Next game I think I'll go for the Oracle instead of Stonehenge, or not bother with either.

Didn't get an army together so no domination plans were started. Didn't even have any galleys built either. Like I said, it was a test map.

Only had 1 worker and there was jungle on my island too.

Next game I'll found 3 cities ASAP and build another worker I think, ignore stonehenge and see how it goes from there.

320 turn limit though, we'll need to be quick on this game.

EDIT: I had barbs on, as well, didn't see any barbs or animals at all due to small islands. Did pop a scout from a hut for extra fogbusting powers. May put raging barbs on to see if it hinders the AI in the next game. Or maybe not. I can't see any benefit from having no barbs though, except perhaps the pillaging of fishing boats.
 
I would play as Augustus if I had Warlords, but as I don't I'm going to try Catherine or the creative Khan first. Maybe Japan if maintenance becomes a problem.

Does the Colossus do something different in Warlords? Like +1 naval movement or something? I can't see +1 to water tiles being that great... Yes there will be lots of them, but how often will they be worked, and wouldn't you want to minimize the number in the fat cross to maximize the land captured by border expansions?

Sigh... I fear this one may be another massacre of us poor vanilla players.
 
Actually I think the Great Lighthouse will be better than the colossus. The colossus is cheap if you have copper though (I didn't, so I don't know why I was building it).

Ragnar's unique building gives ships +1 movement so expect a massacre from the Warlords players... he's financial and aggressive too and his unique unit is a maceman with a free amphibious promo. EDIT: Which they keep when you upgrade to grenadiers/rifles
 
Sounds interesting. Less of a "follow a set-in-stone strategy" than recent gauntlets. I hope I will have time to play it. Even on quick speed domination takes quite some time to pull through i think, and no more holidays for me :(
Ragnar sounds an obvious choice. Maybe it's time to actually build some cottages again ;)
 
Snaky continents with low seas seem to help a lot on archipelago maps. I just finished the minor with those settings where I wound up on one big landmass with all but one of the opponents on it. It pretty much was all the land I needed to trigger the domination. I'm not sure if the harder difficulty affects what kind of maps you draw though.
 
Gah, wasn't watching my electric meter so had an unexpected powercut in 1100AD just as I was about to wipe Cyrus out with berserkers and 4 turns away from grenadiers. And I didn't set autosave to every turn, so even if I do win it won't count for HOF.

It was looking like my best attempt so far with 8 decent cities anyway, stone in 2nd so got pyramids, missed Great Library. Nowhere near liberalism in 980AD when Hannibal got it though.

Am I the only one trying this gauntlet?
 
Latest try is going alot better. Only 6 cities but first to liberalism in 1025AD, after researching music and gunpowder, so 10 turns away from Military Tradition. Only 1 war getting a crappy city from Asoka, had to call off the war before taking his capital, but it will be on again as soon as the peace treaty runs out. Only wonder was the Great Library this time. Heroic Epic already built in my military production city so it's trebs for now and cavalry in 10 turns. Sold philosophy for cash so upgraded all my swords and axes to berserkers. I think a large war is about to break out. Just picked up guilds, engineering and still got education in the bag to trade with.

Could be my first emperor win, fingers and toes crossed ;)
 
I'm off on holiday from 11 September until early October so I won't be able to get to this one by then. I will focus on the less frustrating G-Minor 26 instead in the few days I have left.
 
Had one try racing to cavalry with a monster capital. Could build 1 turn cavs, but I could only terminate two civs with them. Then the other AIs got rifles and I abandoned the game. I wanted to test whether later wars might be suitable. Next try I will go back to early war as I did for the last emperor domination gmajor.

Good luck ParadigmShifter !
 
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