G-Minor 19

[Lehm]

Oh damn it , now I read that I have to save the initial starting position what I of course didn´t do. I only have the replay file and the turn after my 565 BC Conquest Victory... Any chances of this game to be accepted (I am really proud of it!!!)

 

[Denniz]

Oh damn it , now I read that I have to save the initial starting position what I of course didn´t do. I only have the replay file and the turn after my 565 BC Conquest Victory... Any chances of this game to be accepted (I am really proud of it!!!)

Sorry not without the start file. Do you still have your autosaves? The initial autosave will do.

 

[Denniz]

Okay, so far so good... I reached a Conquest -Victory and now I´d like to submit the game.. How do I do that? I tried to register 2 days ago but I am still waiting for the email with the password I need to log in. Did I do anything wrong or what or how or why or when or...???

I just re-sent it to you at your registered e-mail account. Be sure to check your spam folders. If you don't get it by tomorrow. E-mail us at hof.civfanatics@gmail.com so we can verify your e-mail address.

 

[Lehm]

Sorry not without the start file. Do you still have your autosaves? The initial autosave will do.

No, unfortunately not... mh, so I think I will have to do it again...

 

[Lehm]

I just re-sent it to you at your registered e-mail account. Be sure to check your spam folders. If you don't get it by tomorrow. E-mail us at hof.civfanatics@gmail.com so we can verify your e-mail address.

Thank you, I got it.

 

[Moonsinger]

You do have to research Feudalism to enable vassals...it is a fairly expensive tech for as quick a conquest as some people are likely to get, but it shouldn't be too hard to slingshot for it using the Oracle, if you go for Monarchy quickly and are able to distract the AI from building the Oracle...I can do the Feudalism slingshot on prince fairly easily on Terra maps, so I am certain some of the players here can do so...I may try to do it. Otherwise, I'll make an attempt with Rome tonight.

Thanks for the info. Since Feudalism is an expensive tech and we probably couldn't get it before 1000BC, I'm certain that it won't be the best tactic for this gauntlet.

PS As it seems to me, current minor must be played very fast:
- before 1000BC IAC.
- it is only one way to do this: play by Inca (i'v played in warlords as I haven't played vanilla for a long time)

I really don't want to say anything about the given date because I don't want to discourage anyone from trying. However, since you said it first, I totally agree with you on this.

 

[Harbourboy]

This is really hard. I wonder what I need to do differently. My current (fifth) attempt is going better than the previous four in that I am in about 1200 AD and in a reasonably strong position. I am first or second in score and about the same in power. Hannibal and Roosevelt have been eliminated but it's pretty slow going to take out the others. I was battling it out with Mao but then Ragnar turned up at my borders with a host of Beserkers so I will now need to redirect my stacks of Immortals and Trebuchets that way. Plus, the economy is starting to tank. I missed out on Liberalism by about 10 turns and now Asoka is starting to build up a tech lead.

Clearly I should be doing something completely differently.

 

[Thrallia]

hm...I think I need to learn to balance out how aggressive I am at first...I've now lost two straight games when I began very early worker stealing wars.

I should probably stop doing that unless the worker is out of reach of a single turn of movement from the capital...I should also probably beeline to IW with Rome, rather than running around the worker techs first.

 

[jesusin]

What source of stupid things that AI may do when their city is under sieged?

A. They may start building a Wonder. If they do this, move your all your Quechua away from their city for about 2 or 3 turns.
B. They may start building settler. I like this part...free worker and experience. Just anticipate where they they may send their settler out next and ambush them out in the open field.
C. They set out to destroy our cities. I love this part...when the AI put their minds into something, they won't be sidetracked...if their mission is to destroy our city or pillage our land, nothing else matter. We just wait to engage them in the open meadow in between our city and their.

I feel embarrased to ask, but...how do I know what they are building?

 

[Harbourboy]

I'm in about 1450 AD and it's all bogged down. It takes about 15 turns to take each city and there must be at least 20 left on this continent, never mind what happens if anybody makes it to the new world.

I wish I could research Military Tradition a bit more quickly. I need Cavalry! Immortals just don't cut it any more.

 

[Moonsinger]

I feel embarrased to ask, but...how do I know what they are building?

Base on their available workspaces, you can guess how long it take them to roll out an archer, or a settler. If neither of them coming out after your estimate time frame, they must be building a Wonder or something.

 

[KMadCandy]

hm...I think I need to learn to balance out how aggressive I am at first...I've now lost two straight games when I began very early worker stealing wars.

I should probably stop doing that unless the worker is out of reach of a single turn of movement from the capital.

we need to find a way to mix and match our styles Thrallia, we'd do so well! i'm quite good at showing no aggression at first. i think i've done the worker steal thing twice my entire Civ4 career ... if you don't count barbs, since they of course start the aggression there!

 

[Lehm]

Okay, this time I got a conquest vic in 295 BC. Not so good as the game before but I keep trying. I play Egypt to use the war chariots. I am not sure if they are the best units for early warfare but I like them. I think I will try to play the same settings with warlords now. I think the vanilla version made it a bit easier. At least the AI always leaves the cities in vanilla when they have more than two units stationed in the city, althought I am standing right next to the city with 4 or 5 units. Mh, we´ll see what the warlords AI can do...

 

[Harbourboy]

How on earth do you manage to do it by 295 BC? I've barely even started by then. I am in 1798 AD and may now struggle to finish before Asoka launches is space ship. This is very difficult.

 

[Gosha190]

well, I'v finished my second game just now. I hope I did not do any mistakes in game options or HOF mode version this time and my second game will be accepted and included in minor table. I'v improved finish date for 360 years.

 

[Harbourboy]

I just got Asoka's world map and there is a distressingly large amount of purple over on the new world. Maybe this game is already lost. How annoying. It takes days to get this far into the game only to have it slip away. Asoka's power graph is almost vertical. How does he get so powerful so quickly?

 

[AnitaGaribaldi]

Thanks for the info. Since Feudalism is an expensive tech and we probably couldn't get it before 1000BC, I'm certain that it won't be the best tactic for this gauntlet.

I agree with this, with so many BC times coming around. I'm a slow domination/conquest player. I've been trying to change this since I realized that I couldn't beat Monarch because of my play style. Vassals are helping me on my goal because it's already 1472 AD and I'm fighting my last war, a World War I must add. It's me with my two Vassals against Cyrus with his Vassal, Asoka. Four AIs are down, two left. Asoka will not last more than 10 turns, I guess. I think I'll win this time. The worst time of all, I guess.

 

[Harbourboy]

The worst time of all, I guess.

Not if I can pull off a win in my current game it won't be. I'm already at 1798 and still have three civs to knock over, two of whom have already emigrated to islands and new continents.

 

[Denniz]

Not if I can pull off a win in my current game it won't be. I'm already at 1798 and still have three civs to knock over, two of whom have already emigrated to islands and new continents.

If I might offer a suggestion. With a conquest type game, you only need enough economy/research to get you to producing your world conquerors. Good civs for this have a ancient era UU. (Eygpt, Persia, Rome, etc.) Your primary research path should beeline to whatever techs you need to produce that unit. After that, concentrate on producing a lot of those. Ignore anything else builder related that does not directly relate to that. Everything else is logistics.

Look in the Civ4 - Strategy & Tips fourm and the War Academy for lots of strategy articles that you can barrow ideas from.

 

[AnitaGaribaldi]

I won! My first monarch conquest victory, 1571 AD. Now, I just have to improve my time. I know I won't beat any record. I have time for more one or two games only. I just hope I can win before 1000 AD.