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Acoustics at turn 118???
I'm at turn 200 and 30 turns of getting there...
We are playing on epic, right?
4 cs allied at turn 70? Where did you get the gold?
Cause most quests are not that easy to fullfill.
Acoustics at turn 118???
I'm at turn 200 and 30 turns of getting there...
We are playing on epic, right?
4 cs allied at turn 70? Where did you get the gold?
Cause most quests are not that easy to fullfill.
3 cities/3 workers at turn 40 and a fast NC combined with Pacal's UBs is just perfect for a fast tech rate. I rush bought 3 libraries. I picked a gs for my 2nd UA gp(settled). I built the GL for Acoustics. Built Pyramids as my first wonder for 5 workers total with double boost from Liberty and Pyramids. Around the turn 100 i had improved all tiles, waiting culturally to improve more( rush bought some tiles in capital after Petra and Civil Service).
CS can be allied as soon as they ask for barb camps killing. Make sure to scout with your wariror and another unit left and right as soon as possible(As soon as i get 190 gold i rush buy a scout). Then i build an archer and rush buy another one. Sent them in both directions so they can rejoin my 2 other melee units.
Then you can clear barb camps from the map and get ton of free influence
I got lucky a bit, every cultural cs asked me to destroy a barb camp(2 of them from the same camp).
I like Pacal. 1 ge for Petra but also another ge from Liberty later for the Louvre. Everything goes so fast so i need some help
And i play the B path. I can't see myself getting Printing Press when Architecture is waiting for Hermitag, and Archeology with the strongest way to generate culture : Freedom. In fact i think that Pisa is a bad wonder before Architechture and Archology. I'm better to build it after these for an extra golden age length near the end. I will build PT after architechture to reach archology faster(combined with Oxford). There is so much things to do i a short time frame that i need to cut on some wonders.
No time to lose
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Finished a game on turn 253 now with a civ that wasn't even mentioned here yet - the Incas. (well I guess the map was also really good for them, at least the location of the 4th city with the weird name was BOMBASTIC).
In the spoiler you can find a very brief description and an overview pic or three:
(and here a gallery with some pics: http://imgur.com/a/CMRBM)
edit) as an additional info since I think it may not be seen very well on the screenshots:
I had 6 Landmarks in the main city (2 replaced by mines) and 1 + 1 holy site in the capital.
In the spoiler you can find a very brief description and an overview pic or three:
(and here a gallery with some pics: http://imgur.com/a/CMRBM)
Spoiler :
edit) as an additional info since I think it may not be seen very well on the screenshots:
I had 6 Landmarks in the main city (2 replaced by mines) and 1 + 1 holy site in the capital.
Nice one Feiling
Good idea with the Incans. I finished my game at turn 266. Got lazy near the end i even switched to Order and went 1 turn of anarchy
Got Opera houses earlier(123). You got Museums a bit faster(188). Turn 212...not sure but i think i finished around that time too with 860 cpt peak and 5 policies to go.
Why i got more culture than you with 3 cities? Because i planted more great artists. Why you finished approx 10 turns behind me? Because you got Incas and this awesome and productive city where you built Utopia.
So... i wonder what is the real kicker. More cities---> More science ---> capacity to make broadcast towers a real kicker? Settler is a weird level.
Good idea with the Incans. I finished my game at turn 266. Got lazy near the end i even switched to Order and went 1 turn of anarchy
Got Opera houses earlier(123). You got Museums a bit faster(188). Turn 212...not sure but i think i finished around that time too with 860 cpt peak and 5 policies to go.
Why i got more culture than you with 3 cities? Because i planted more great artists. Why you finished approx 10 turns behind me? Because you got Incas and this awesome and productive city where you built Utopia.
So... i wonder what is the real kicker. More cities---> More science ---> capacity to make broadcast towers a real kicker? Settler is a weird level.
Finished a game on turn 253 now with a civ that wasn't even mentioned here yet - the Incas. (well I guess the map was also really good for them, at least the location of the 4th city with the weird name was BOMBASTIC).
In the spoiler you can find a very brief description and an overview pic or three:
(and here a gallery with some pics: http://imgur.com/a/CMRBM)
Spoiler :
Sick production city for Utopia!
How many turns did it take to build?In my first game it took like 19 and now in my best game it took 13, i guess ur production was even faster.
Overall I think a few lucky ruins and fast archeology is key to this challenge
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Utopia took 10 turns in that city with 5 buildings pre-build for some overflow. No marble unfortunately 
Oh, and I was using method (A) in this game: Oxford for Archaeology - that's probably why I suddenly got that earlier than Tabarnak... but yeah, no Radio then for me though.
Oh, and I was using method (A) in this game: Oxford for Archaeology - that's probably why I suddenly got that earlier than Tabarnak... but yeah, no Radio then for me though.
I did the same. Your extra city provided you more science.
Sorry for the late replies guys:
Thank you!
I reached Acoustics at turn 140, Architecture at 160 and Archaeology at 178 via Oxford. which is not particularly fast compared to everyone here for Acoustics since I did Calvary first for Alhambra then education then acoustics, but I did get museums early.
I had 5 cities and Napoleon's Ancien regime allows the 5th city to make up for culture easier and provide a lot more
, i basically have 2 scientist in every city once universities were built too since I took Fertility rites and I have no population problem (2 scientist in addition to all those artists! That is 5 artists + 2 scientists before Civil Society 
).
I allied 3 cultural CS by turn 100, another one about 20 turns after that and the last one very late at 170 since its a hostile CS and I dont have the gold for it. Now I think about it maybe there is still room for improvement...
As everyone mentioned now, I did A, reaching Archaeology via Oxford
Radio is not needed for this particular Minor, furthest tech required is just Scientific Theory for hydro dams~
And to add on to that my policy path was:
Tradition opener
Liberty opener -> republic, collective rule, citizenship, representation (i took worker late since I popped some from huts)
Legalism for 4 amphitheaters
Piety x6
Liberty finisher took a GA (since I have the production to hand build Petra before reaching Chivary for Alhambra)
Finish Tradition
Patronage opener, Philanthropy
Freedom x6
Finish Patronage
Reaching Archaeology early allows you to push for ~900 to 1000 culture (with golden age, which you will be in for the last 50 turns or so anyway, ~1000 culture once cultural diplomacy is reached in patronage) once freedom was finished, then there should be no problem finishing the last tree, radio is too late to come into play... see attached screen shot for the moment right after freedom was finished for my game
Thank you
!I reached Acoustics at turn 140, Architecture at 160 and Archaeology at 178 via Oxford. which is not particularly fast compared to everyone here for Acoustics since I did Calvary first for Alhambra then education then acoustics, but I did get museums early.
I had 5 cities and Napoleon's Ancien regime allows the 5th city to make up for culture easier and provide a lot more
, i basically have 2 scientist in every city once universities were built too since I took Fertility rites and I have no population problem (2 scientist in addition to all those artists! That is 5 artists + 2 scientists before Civil Society ). I allied 3 cultural CS by turn 100, another one about 20 turns after that and the last one very late at 170 since its a hostile CS and I dont have the gold for it. Now I think about it maybe there is still room for improvement...
As everyone mentioned now, I did A, reaching Archaeology via Oxford
Radio is not needed for this particular Minor, furthest tech required is just Scientific Theory for hydro dams~
And to add on to that my policy path was:
Tradition opener
Liberty opener -> republic, collective rule, citizenship, representation (i took worker late since I popped some from huts)
Legalism for 4 amphitheaters
Piety x6
Liberty finisher took a GA (since I have the production to hand build Petra before reaching Chivary for Alhambra)
Finish Tradition
Patronage opener, Philanthropy
Freedom x6
Finish Patronage
Reaching Archaeology early allows you to push for ~900 to 1000 culture (with golden age, which you will be in for the last 50 turns or so anyway, ~1000 culture once cultural diplomacy is reached in patronage) once freedom was finished, then there should be no problem finishing the last tree, radio is too late to come into play... see attached screen shot for the moment right after freedom was finished for my game
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My best game so far was with France. Still wanna try Siam once at least.
@vexing,
Since Petra is popular for this gauntlet so probably is desert folklore and in that case that should be possible easily.
1 Cathedral, 1 Missionary, x more Cathedrals (x=number of your other cities), then enhancing - is what I'm usually doing (and I think it always has been quit a bit before Opera Houses).
@vexing,
Since Petra is popular for this gauntlet so probably is desert folklore and in that case that should be possible easily.
1 Cathedral, 1 Missionary, x more Cathedrals (x=number of your other cities), then enhancing - is what I'm usually doing (and I think it always has been quit a bit before Opera Houses).
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Anyone going for this with Vanilla? My first full try was T-272 with Siam and while there is of course a lot of space for improvement still, I dont think I can beat T-240 or what you have been posting as G&K best so far 
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i haven'tAnyone going for this with Vanilla? My first full try was T-272 with Siam and while there is of course a lot of space for improvement still, I dont think I can beat T-240 or what you have been posting as G&K best so far
vanilla's main bonuses are:
RAs
bulbs
era earlier freedom
probably broadcast towers / SoH
higher culture cs probability
G+Ks are:
20% bonus to culture from golden age
petra
extra great artist slot
3 or possibly 4 extra great artists from religion
much easier CS allying
i don't think vanilla can compete, though the earlier freedom is a big difference
Anyone going for this with Vanilla? My first full try was T-272 with Siam and while there is of course a lot of space for improvement still, I dont think I can beat T-240 or what you have been posting as G&K best so far
I'm trying Napo in Vanilla. Not sure about t240 though...I think Vanilla could compete if one of the top players made the effort. I'm average in Civ5 and can see 250-260 with the right map.
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