Games settings don't save -- this is annoying the heck outta me!!

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Why oh why don't game settings save? If I choose "set up game", apparently I'm going to set the game to my liking. Even if I make a new game, it's doubtful I'll ever change more than a couple settings since this is my preferred way of playing Civ. But why for the love of all that is good and holy doesn't it save any of these settings??? Every single time I have to reset everything, and regenerating a map several times is soooo tedious.

Aaagghhhhrrrrr it annoys me so bloody much!!
 
Why oh why don't game settings save? If I choose "set up game", apparently I'm going to set the game to my liking. Even if I make a new game, it's doubtful I'll ever change more than a couple settings since this is my preferred way of playing Civ. But why for the love of all that is good and holy doesn't it save any of these settings??? Every single time I have to reset everything, and regenerating a map several times is soooo tedious.

Aaagghhhhrrrrr it annoys me so bloody much!!

normally, if you have a life, you shouldn't play a thousand games. plus setting a game takes 30 seconds. you would save much more time by shutting off the combats in the advanced setup.
 
Because they obviously didn't learn anything from Civ4.
 
Why oh why don't game settings save? If I choose "set up game", apparently I'm going to set the game to my liking. Even if I make a new game, it's doubtful I'll ever change more than a couple settings since this is my preferred way of playing Civ. But why for the love of all that is good and holy doesn't it save any of these settings??? Every single time I have to reset everything, and regenerating a map several times is soooo tedious.

Aaagghhhhrrrrr it annoys me so bloody much!!
Amen and amen!

Not only do they not save these dozens of settings, but if you set them as, say, Washington and then decide that you'd rather play them as Ghandi, then when you change your leader and go back into settings — they've all reverted to the default!

Someone said it would take less than a minute to change all the settings the way you want them. That's also about how long it would take to write the code to save and reload them automatically.
 
Consider this another vote for making things convenient for the player as a mark of how much the developers care about the player experience. Yes, I can spend the extra few moments to do set up. No, I do not need to start a Civ game being annoyed and inconvenienced. It's a little thing, but it is part of a first impression each game. Are people arguing in favor of establishing this level of annoyance first thing every game? It sounds that way and it confuses me.
 
Perhaps it was a positive decision on the part of the developers to force you to make a positive choice every time you decided to use a nonstandard features?

Personally, I think that is stretching, but it could be...

I really think they just forgot to put it in.
 
I really think they just forgot to put it in.
That rings true. There seems to be very little positive to squeeze out of always reverting to factory default settings when there are so many choices, so many kinds of machines and graphics cards, and so many styles of play and temperaments of players.

Sid Meier once said that the mark of a great strategy game is that it offers decisions — choices with consequences. But I think he meant that to apply to the gameplay itself, and not to setting up preferences.

After all, you can decide to play the defaults if you want (and if your hardware will allow it). But that decision is driven more by bias than consequence. In other words, by making it easier to play with the defaults than with prefered user settings, the decision making process itself is compromized.
 
Exactly. Nobody complained when board games refused to jump out of the box and set themselves up on the table.

No, but that's because the board game maker couldn't have easily made it so that they did.

On the other hand, it would have taken almost no effort on Firaxis's part to save out your preferences.

It's an inconvenience that should be fixed. It's a relatively low priority bug, but it is still a problem.
 
Are all you angry people aware that CIV V basic set-up settings ARE automatically saved in non-modded games?

It does not save settings from the advanced menu, so if you change these (eg. selecting quick combat) then make sure to go back to the basic menu before pressing 'start game'. All basic setting are saved every time.

Except if you use mods, in which case nothing is saved. Before you all complain how terrible this is too, I should remind you that in Civ IV a consistent problem with many mods was that the game settings were saved even when a mod changed them, thus screwing up many mods. So it might on the long run have been wise for Firaxis to stop modded games saving settings.
 
normally, if you have a life, you shouldn't play a thousand games. plus setting a game takes 30 seconds. you would save much more time by shutting off the combats in the advanced setup.

Hello?... Civ Fanatics. That's the name of the web sight. You know...Fanatics

I agree with the O.P.! It's not a huge point, but so what? He felt strongly enough to come here and give his opinion about a GAME. And you decide to kill him for it?

Oh and please describe to me your great life and how it inspired you to jump this thread with hatred.
 
If you are careful, you can also save Advanced Settings. Find the GameInfo folder, typically here:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\sid meier's civilization v\Assets\Gameplay\XML\GameInfo

There are two xml files of interest:

CIV5PlayerOptions.xml
CIV5GameOptions.xml


Be sure to save a copy of these files before modifying them. The CIV5PlayerOptions file already has default commands, which you can just modify. On the CIV5GameOptions file, you will need to add the default command. As an example, in CIV5GameOptions, you will find the Quick Combat option.

<Type>GAMEOPTION_QUICK_COMBAT</Type>
<Description>TXT_KEY_GAME_OPTION_QUICK_COMBAT</Description>
<Help>TXT_KEY_GAME_OPTION_QUICK_COMBAT_HELP</Help>


Then add the indicated line to set the default.

<Type>GAMEOPTION_QUICK_COMBAT</Type>
<Description>TXT_KEY_GAME_OPTION_QUICK_COMBAT</Description>
<Help>TXT_KEY_GAME_OPTION_QUICK_COMBAT_HELP</Help>
<Default>true</Default>


Of course, you'll have to restart the game for the changes to occur, but then you should see the option already checked in the Advanced Settings Menu.

(That setting should be part of the global user interface, and not set per game.)
 
Exactly. Nobody complained when board games refused to jump out of the box and set themselves up on the table.

You've missed the O.Ps' point entirely.

No one has ever had the expectation that a board game would jump out of the box and set itself up. * Although, it's kind of a cool idea.

You intentionaly present a straw-man arguement just as a pretense to be snarky.

You well know the O.Ps expresses a reasonable opinion here. An opinion you may not hold to, but a reasonable opinion, none the less.

I honestly believe I'd have a better job of finding an auto-set board game than a modecrum of ciVility.

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Hmmm I setup my games different almost every time I play a new game, It's much more fun to not play the same maps over and over, at least for me.
 
You intentionaly present a straw-man arguement just as a pretense to be snarky.

You well know the O.Ps expresses a reasonable opinion here. An opinion you may not hold to, but a reasonable opinion, none the less.

It wasn't a 'straw man argument' and neither was it an argument at all; it was a light hearted response to another poster and didn't tackle any of the points raised in the op as the text i quoted demonstrates.

As to the op, as someone else mentioned, it takes seconds to set up a game and in the long list of faults with this game this doesn't seem particularly high in the whole scheme of things.
 
The only time the game not saving settings annoys me is when I'm constantly reloading the start looking for that ideal starting position. Obviously, the designers didn't want to make that play style easy.
 
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