Gates on BBC News: Vista is "more secure" (than what?)

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Windows Vista is "dramatically more secure than any other operating system released", Microsoft founder Bill Gates has told BBC News.
I'm trying to see how this could be considered true:
1) Linux doesn't count as an operating system, since it's a bunch of different stuff.
2) Linux doesn't count as having been released, since it gets continual version number increases.
3) Linux doesn't count as being secure, because it has withstood fewer viruses than Vista will.
4) Vista will actually be more secure than any branch of Linux.

None of these make much sense.

Mr Gates said the security features in the new operating system were reason enough to upgrade from Windows XP.

Microsoft launched Vista in London, with more than 100m computers predicted to be using it within 12 months.

Mr Gates also defended the pricing of Vista, which is twice as expensive in Europe compared to the US.

The technology leader called the launch a "big day" that would bring a new digital workstyle and lifestyle.

The new operating system (OS) boasts an improved interface and security tools.

Mr Gates said security in Vista would mean it would be "much, much harder" for malicious hackers to attack computers running the operating system.

"For anybody worried about safety, whether it is phishing or malware or parental control type issues, Vista brings that to a whole new level of capability," he added.

Security analysts have praised the improved tools in Vista but many feel that holes in the operating system eventually will be exposed and that Microsoft will continue to need to update it through online patches.


WHAT IS AN OPERATING SYSTEM?
It is the program which manages the hardware and software resources on a computer.
It also forms a platform on top of which other programs can run.

Microsoft will come under fire if Vista proves to be the popular target of malicious hackers exploiting flaws, said David Mitchell, the software practice leader at analysts Ovum.

"It's crucial for corporate reputation and revenue that Vista proves more secure and stable than XP," he said.

Not all PCs will be able to run Vista - Microsoft recommends machines have at least 512Mb of RAM, a 800Mhz processor and 15Gb of hard disk space.
The computer magazine which I get recommends 400Gb of hard disk space and similarly larger other requirements. Since they aren't selling Vista, I trust them more.

Microsoft has pledged to continue support for XP users until 2011.

The company launched Vista for business users two months ago. Now Vista has been released to consumers, who can buy four home versions.

There is also a stripped down version of the OS, Vista Starter, which is aimed at customers in developing countries. It will be available in 70 languages and will run on slower and older PCs.


VISTA PC SPECIFICATIONS
VISTA CAPABLE
800MHz processor
512Mb memory
DirectX9 capable graphics processor
PREMIUM READY
1Ghz processor
1Gb memory
128Mb graphics memory
40Gb hard drive
DVD-ROM
Internet access
15 recommended, 40 as specification? :p

How to install Vista

But Microsoft could face a backlash from consumers over its pricing plans - with the cost of Vista versions in the US roughly half the price of equivalent versions in the UK.

Prices for the OS in the UK range from about £100 for an upgrade version of the Basic package to £249 for a copy of the upgrade to the Ultimate version of Vista.

In the US prices start from $100 (£52) for an upgrade of Vista Home basic to $249 (£127) for the equivalent Ultimate version.

Mr Gates defended Microsoft's pricing plans: "We try to keep our prices largely in line from country to country... but with price you do generally get some things that get a bit out of alignment as currencies go up and down.

"Our goal across our product line is to largely have a global way of looking at things."

Mr Mitchell said there was pent up consumer demand for Vista.


VISTA HOME VERSIONS
Vista desktop - aero interface
Home Basic - improved search and security but no Aero interface (pictured)
Home Premium - As above but with Aero, Media Center options, back-up tools, DVD burning software
Vista Ultimate - All home and business features, plus a series of downloadable Ultimate Extras
Your reviews of Vista and rivals

Vista's security features

"In the consumer space there has not been any new release of a Windows operating system for five years," he said.

Ovum predicts that 15% of XP machines will be running Vista by the end of 2007.

"Part of the appetite is 'something new for something new's sake'," said Mr Mitchell.

Mr Mitchell predicted that the new graphical interface, called Aero, improved desktop search tools and a promise of more robust security would appeal to many users.

But he predicted some consumers could be confused by the minimum specifications for PCs to run Vista and by the different versions on sale.

Users can visit the Microsoft website to check if their hardware will run Vista and some new machines are being labelled Vista Capable or Premier Vista Ready, for those PCs with higher specifications.

"There's been an attempt to demystify what the minimum specifications are," said Mr Mitchell.

"Undoubtedly some people - as in any industry - won't read the instructions."

In his interview with the BBC Mr Gates also predicted that school children would be using tablet PCs rather than text books in 10 years time.

"We will have an inexpensive tablet-like device that lets the teachers customise things.

"Hopefully the cost of that isn't much more than textbooks have been so that's a big change."
What a shame, then, that the Children's Machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_Per_Child) runs Linux.

He also welcomed the arrival of Apple's iPhone into the market calling it "a great new entrant"

"What we are seeing for all these products is that software is increasingly important. If you look at a phone of five years ago it was really about the hardware only.

"But now as you are browsing and managing your calendar and having lots of music or photos, the software is the thing that counts and there are very few companies to do great software."

Microsoft produces software which runs on millions of mobile phones and portable devices.

He added: "We enjoy having them [Apple] in the business."
Do you, Gates and co, ever consider, even for a second, that you do not do great software? Your company locks people in, mangles their data at the drop of a hat, and refuses to either publish own standards or adopt official standards.

The Register said:
When I first had a Windows machine, it was a 12 MHz 386 computer. The mouse was a real-time peripheral. I mean by that, that if I moved the mouse, the pointer on the screen moved.

These days, I have a machine with a processor of 1.2 GHz clock speed. Just to make that clear: it's exactly a hundred times faster in its operations than that old 386. Where the 386 had one meg of memory, this one has exactly a thousand times as much. The disk on that one was around 50 megabytes: this one is 30 Gigabytes.

And yet, if I move the mouse, the software which now runs on this machine cannot keep up with it!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/21/bill_gates_invoice/
 
Well what do you expect him to do? Tell the truth and say linux is more secure? :lol:
 
The 15 recommended is for free space, 40 is for total.

400GB sounds completely ridiculous. That can't be true...

From what I've heard, linux seems incredibly secure though.
 
I think that I can run Vista, but It would probably make my computer explode. The high specifications make a Linux/Windows XP seem extremely appealing.
 
Given the insane requirements for Vista, I am sticking with XP.

But also given Microsoft, I bet they'll 'cease to support' XP pretty soon.

Around the same time the want everyone to switch over to Vista...

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No they can't do that because no big corporate customer would be insane enough to run Vista within the next two years. Windows 2000 will be supported until late 2009, I don't think Microsoft can be criticized for dropping support for their OSes too soon.
But I’m starting to doubt we will see a service pack 4 for XP… or even a SP3.

And, Erik, everybody knows Windows has crap security… but suggesting that Leenucks thing as a secure alternative? OpenBSD is the only secure OS! :devil:
 
Given the insane requirements for Vista, I am sticking with XP.
HOLY CRAP!!!!!! Curt and I are on the same wave length!! :eek:!! The World must be turned upside down!!

CurtSibling said:
But also given Microsoft, I bet they'll 'cease to support' XP pretty soon.
Last I checked, MS is going to stop support for XP in 2012.
 
Windows is still based on old MS-DOS, which didn't even know the concept of security.
GNU/Linux is a free system that mimicks very old (but proprietary) Unix systems, that were designed with security in mind, back in the 70s.

Vista still lacks elementary stuff that is older that Microsoft itself.
 
Windows is still based on old MS-DOS, which didn't even know the concept of security.
Incorrect. NT technology is not based on MS-DOS. The Last MS-DOS based Windows was Windows ME.

Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Vista are all derived from the NT series of windows.

Windows NT Family/Series
 
Yup, thanks for this correction. Still not at the level of Linux though.
Yeah Yeah, Save it for your Linux convention :p. I still see Windows superior than Linux in stability (I never experienced any such trouble with XP) and a wide selection of Games :smug:.

But I shall end the Windows vs. Linux fight here and continue on our marry paths :D.
 
I still see Windows superior than Linux in stability

Are you joking me????

Windows... STABLE? :lol: :lol:

I suppose XP has been more stable then the rest of the windows family but its still got a long way to go!
 
I still see Windows superior than Linux in stability
Don't care what the others say, you're right. You never know what you get with Linux, while on the other hand, Windows is reliable. Anytime you start it, you're guarranteed to see a part of Windows that's resistant to anything except that little button on your machine. There is absolutely no way in which you could de-stabilize the base of any Windows OS, the Holy Blue Screen. Now if that isn't stability... :D
 
XP, and in fact most Windows versions are very stable.... if you avoid doing anything Windows isn't prepared for!










:D
 
Also, with regards to security and safety...

Boss: "We have upgraded all our computers!"
Stockholders: "Our lawyer notes that this 'upgrade' gives an unspecified third party the right to cripple your computers and mangle your data. We're suing you for making our investment highly insecure and unsafe by exposing it this way."

Heh. Mangled medical images should be grounds for a malpractice lawsuit against any hospital that uses Vista anywhere important.
 
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