theodcyning
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I'm trying to figure out a way to acquire all Great Writers from the Classical Era(earliest era for Great People) in a single game.
I have read this: https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/the-mechanism-of-great-people.26276/
But still am at a loss of trying to figure out either:
a) a strategy that will allow me to get all Classical writers without mods.
or
b) the best way to mod the Great Writers so that they don't become archaic as quickly
As for the strategy, I have several obvious options to go for....
*beeline the Civic that gives you Theater District
**try to get all boosts
*spam Great Writer Points
*acquire the pantheon that gives extra GP for Theater
*Classical republic gives extra GP
*use Gorgo for the WildCard slot(used for Writer Points) and for Culture yields from kills
However, I can never seem to get more than 2 classical writers in time before the game moves on to the pool of Medieval Writers. Based on what I read in "The Mechanisms of Great People", I know that the World Age advances when 50% of civs reach that age(might be >50%, but I'm sure it must be 50%, because the game changes Writer Pools in a Duel game when I clearly have NOT entered the Medieval Age). So, If I play with only 2 Civs, the second my AI opponent beelines something in the Medieval Age, I'm screwed. I haven't played with lots of Civs, as I have no way to control what any of them do, giving me no assurance about whether or not this would slow down or accelerate the pace of the Ages; and I can't force any of them to help me acquire all the great writers either. I have tried experimenting with different game speeds, but nothing seems to help, I end up doing better on ONLINE speed than MARATHON, since it scales up the points needed for a Great Writer anyway. MARATHON just made it easy to get the Civic Boosts, which doesn't always help as much as I thought it would. So... anymore ideas??? Anybody want to just flat out rule this impossible? and move on to the next solution?
If in the event it is not possible, I would like to find an easy modification that I can make to the game files that would allow me to get all Classical Writers anyway; without being TOO cheap about it. Attempting to mod the Eras seems too difficult; I can't even find where the game handles Great Person Pools. Changing the Era of the Great People seems like an easy fix tho. Perhaps change 3 of the 4 Classical Writers to Medieval Era or later?
In case anybody is wondering I want to try and play a perfect Great Works Game, but there are a couple bottle necks that seem to make it close to impossible. One of those bottlenecks being these Classical Era Great Writers. There is also another bottleneck down the road, where I have to get an Archaeologist ASAP and dig up all the Ancient Artifacts ASAP before advancing World Age, thus losing the pool of Ancient Artifacts(assuming it works the same way)
I have read this: https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/the-mechanism-of-great-people.26276/
But still am at a loss of trying to figure out either:
a) a strategy that will allow me to get all Classical writers without mods.
or
b) the best way to mod the Great Writers so that they don't become archaic as quickly
As for the strategy, I have several obvious options to go for....
*beeline the Civic that gives you Theater District
**try to get all boosts
*spam Great Writer Points
*acquire the pantheon that gives extra GP for Theater
*Classical republic gives extra GP
*use Gorgo for the WildCard slot(used for Writer Points) and for Culture yields from kills
However, I can never seem to get more than 2 classical writers in time before the game moves on to the pool of Medieval Writers. Based on what I read in "The Mechanisms of Great People", I know that the World Age advances when 50% of civs reach that age(might be >50%, but I'm sure it must be 50%, because the game changes Writer Pools in a Duel game when I clearly have NOT entered the Medieval Age). So, If I play with only 2 Civs, the second my AI opponent beelines something in the Medieval Age, I'm screwed. I haven't played with lots of Civs, as I have no way to control what any of them do, giving me no assurance about whether or not this would slow down or accelerate the pace of the Ages; and I can't force any of them to help me acquire all the great writers either. I have tried experimenting with different game speeds, but nothing seems to help, I end up doing better on ONLINE speed than MARATHON, since it scales up the points needed for a Great Writer anyway. MARATHON just made it easy to get the Civic Boosts, which doesn't always help as much as I thought it would. So... anymore ideas??? Anybody want to just flat out rule this impossible? and move on to the next solution?
If in the event it is not possible, I would like to find an easy modification that I can make to the game files that would allow me to get all Classical Writers anyway; without being TOO cheap about it. Attempting to mod the Eras seems too difficult; I can't even find where the game handles Great Person Pools. Changing the Era of the Great People seems like an easy fix tho. Perhaps change 3 of the 4 Classical Writers to Medieval Era or later?
In case anybody is wondering I want to try and play a perfect Great Works Game, but there are a couple bottle necks that seem to make it close to impossible. One of those bottlenecks being these Classical Era Great Writers. There is also another bottleneck down the road, where I have to get an Archaeologist ASAP and dig up all the Ancient Artifacts ASAP before advancing World Age, thus losing the pool of Ancient Artifacts(assuming it works the same way)