Glenn Beck Says All Hispanics Should Go Back Where They Came From!

[MobBoss]

No, some of them are indeed more oppressed than others. Take the ones who live in Gaza, for instance. And I believe the ones who live in Israel are less oppressed than those who live in the West Bank. But they are all victims of Isreal's apartheid policies towards them, just as all blacks were victims in South Africa until apartheid was finally ended.

So, yes, there are indeed millions who are living under apartheid conditions.

Well, since Hamas is in control of Gaza and has been for some time now, I dont know if I would claim Israel has apartheid practices there. I mean its Hamas tossing their political opponents off buildings, not the Israelis.

In Israel proper, arent Palistinians citizens and allowed to partake in the government there?

 

[Yeekim]

Gaza: 1.4M

Total: 5 million oppressed Palestinians who live under brutal apartheid policies.

The population of the Gaza Strip increased by almost 40% between 1997 and 2007, according to the results of a Palestinian census.

Palestinians breed terribly well under brutal apartheid conditions...

 

[YonatanBlum]

What apartheid policies are you talking about? Separate settlement roads? The blockade? The separation barrier? Please describe the unnecessary and horribly dehumanizing policies that Israel practices against the Palestinians. I would especially like to know how the Israeli government horribly mistreats its own Arab population.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Palestinians breed terribly well under brutal apartheid conditions...

Because there still isn't a Gaza Disney Amusement Park.

(Cue: Farfur joke)

 

[Formaldehyde]

Double post. Please remove.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Palestinians breed terribly well under brutal apartheid conditions...

So did black South Africans. So what's your point? That there must not be anything inherently wrong with apartheid if people can still breed?

What apartheid policies are you talking about? Separate settlement roads? The blockade? The separation barrier? Please describe the unnecessary and horribly dehumanizing policies that Israel practices against the Palestinians. I would especially like to know how the Israeli government horribly mistreats its own Arab population.

I've already posted this URL twice already in the past few days. And if you don't really know how Israel "horribly mistreats" Palestinians, I suggest you do some googling or even read the recent threads regarding ongoing Israeli atrocities in this forum.

 

[Yeekim]

So did black South Africans. So what's your point? That there must not be anything inherently wrong with apartheid if people can still breed?

I've already posted this URL twice already in the past few days. And if you don't really know how Israel "horribly mistreats" Palestinians, I suggest you do some googling or even read the recent threads regarding ongoing Israeli atrocities in this forum.

Maybe it would help if you actually read the URL yourself, instead of posting it anew each day?

Calling Israel an 'apartheid state' is absolute nonsense.

—Malcolm Hedding, a South African minister and fighter against South African apartheid

 

[Formaldehyde]

Maybe it would help if you actually read the URL yourself, instead of posting it anew each day?

Perhaps you should read the URL yourself, instead of cherry picking one comment out of a sea of references which support the assertion.

And you still didn't answer the question. Does the fact that people still breed under such oppressive conditions make it OK as you apparently insinuated above?

 

[YonatanBlum]

I've already posted this URL twice already. And if you don't really know how Israel "horribly mistreats" Palestinians, I suggest you do some googling or even read the recent threads regarding ongoing Israeli atrocities in this forum.

That article is not one-sided in its arguements. The situation resembles apartheid in some ways, but is a completely different thing in others, ESPECIALLY for Arab-Israelis. Simplifying the situation by calling it apartheid and viewing every Israeli defensive action as unreasonable mistreatment may be appealing to some, but this solves nothing since the reality is anything but simple.

 

[MobBoss]

Because there still isn't a Gaza Disney Amusement Park.

(Cue: Farfur joke)

Actually, I found an article online that said Hamas did have something called 'Media City' planned, which was to be a fun park dedicated to the greatness of Hamas...or some such.

And no, I am not kidding.

Perhaps you should read the URL yourself, instead of cherry picking one comment out of a sea of references which support the assertion.

And you still didn't answer the question. Does the fact that people still breed under such oppressive conditions make it OK as you apparently insinuated above?

Form, you didnt answer my question. If there are no Israeli forces in Gaza and havent been for some time, how is it that Israel practices apartheid there when Hamas is in control? Or is it that Hamas is practicing apartheid itself by doing things like tossing its political opponents off buildings, etc?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Actually, I found an article online that said Hamas did have something called 'Media City' planned, which was to be a fun park dedicated to the greatness of Hamas...or some such.

And no, I am not kidding.

Reality: Hi Fiction
Fiction: Jeezus Cripes, what the ef are you supposed to be?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL235698020071120

 

[Formaldehyde]

That article is not one-sided in its arguements. The situation resembles apartheid in some ways, but is a completely different thing in others, ESPECIALLY for Arab-Israelis. Simplifying the situation by calling it apartheid and viewing every Israeli defensive action as unreasonable mistreatment may be appealing to some, but this solves nothing since the reality is anything but simple.

It is not "simplifying" the situation. It is calling it what it actually is. Fortunately, the word "apartheid" is not yet like the word "holocaust", which can now only be used to describe one particular atrocity instead of many which are quite similar.

 

[MobBoss]

It is not "simplifying" the situation. It is calling it what it actually is. Fortunately, the word "apartheid" is not yet like the word "holocaust", which can now only be used to describe one particular atrocity instead of many which are quite similar.

Still havent answered my question. How does Israel practice aparthied in Gaza when it has no presence there?

 

[ColdClimate]

Still havent answered my question. How does Israel practice aparthied in Gaza when it has no presence there?

The same way SA did with Bantustans?

 

[MobBoss]

The same way SA did with Bantustans?

Doesnt answer my question.

 

[ColdClimate]

Doesnt answer my question.

It creates a situation whereby the area, while not under their direct control, is a complete and utter dependent which they can enter at their leisure or set up rules within their borders (like the 1km (?) zone from the fence within the strip that Gazans are not allowed to enter). Maybe that doesn't count as 'aparthied', but there are parallels, I'm sure...

 

[MobBoss]

It creates a situation whereby the area, while not under their direct control, is a complete and utter dependent which they can enter at their leisure or set up rules within their borders (like the 1km (?) zone from the fence within the strip that Gazans are not allowed to enter). Maybe that doesn't count as 'aparthied', but there are parallels, I'm sure...

So you agree it doesnt count as aparthied? Okey dokey. So I dont consider my question answered effectively yet. Thanks.

Form? Do you have an answer?

 

[Verbose]

So you agree it doesnt count as aparthied?

As perversions go, it's certainly miserable enough a creation to warrant a name all of its own.

 

[ColdClimate]

So you agree it doesnt count as aparthied? Okey dokey. So I dont consider my question answered effectively yet. Thanks.

Well, it didn't occur in South Africa between 1948 and 1994, so it can't properly be called 'aparthied'. Congrats.

 

[MobBoss]

As perversions go, it's certainly miserable enough a creation to warrant a name all of its own.

Well, then, by all means lets make something up. I nominate 'gazoodihood'. How about you?

Well, it didn't occur in South Africa between 1948 and 1994, so it can't properly be called 'aparthied'. Congrats.

Its the little victories that mean so much you know.