alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
OOC: if china is still a communists government by then, we'll storm your islands 
GoobNES01: Fallout (Second Thread)
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The Cow
I thought you were changing into a democracy?
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
OOC: that's why i said IF china is still a Communists Government, determines on my mood for the next 10 minutes.
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The Cow
I see
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blackheart
unenlightened
I doubt Goober will let a whole country be invaded.
If he doesn't, my orders were useless.
And my first attempt at World Domination hasn't happened yet. Australia was holding onto Ceylon until they could decide for themselves, Silver and Stormy decided that was unreasonable and became mass-murderers.
It's all good.
And my first attempt at World Domination hasn't happened yet. Australia was holding onto Ceylon until they could decide for themselves, Silver and Stormy decided that was unreasonable and became mass-murderers.
It's all good.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
OOC: We went over the whole Australia thing many a time. I can't share with you the whole 8-page story I wrote for Goober, but here is the last part, edited a little bit to exclude the more vital information:
The Putin Period 1969-1976 Putin
A Strong Russia
Putin served as Prime Minister of the Communist Empire of Russia during 1967, and was elected again in 1969 but now as Prime Minister of the Russian Federation. He was directly responsible for the collapse of the Communist Regime in Russia and the disintegration of the Communist Coalition. This veteran politician however did know what he was doing, because as a result of the collapse Russia inherited most of the Coalition weapons, technologies, infrastructure, and projects. The move avoided another World War with the SADETO forces in South America, and at the same time strengthened Russia. Having achieved this, and taking advantage of the chaos in the world that the fall of the Coalition entailed Putin went on a campaign to strengthen Russian position in the World.
The Reformation 1976-1978 Gorbachev, Chubais, and Gaidar
Gorbachev
In 1976 United Russia lost its majority in the Duma and so a new government was formed, setting in motion a long string of events that would last for four years. A leftist Socialist-Communist Coalition formed the new government in 1976 with Mikhail Gorbachev as the Prime Minister. Gorbachev was a moderate Communist, but still a Communist, and as a Communist he thought Putin too liberal. In 1976 a number of freedoms were curtailed in the name of Mother Russia, and the Communists began a reform of the government. By the end of the 1976 the Communists managed to push through legislature that would reserve half of the seats in the Duma to be elected by local Soviets, which now made up less than five percent of the population. Next came the attack on big business, with a number of major companies being nationalized. In the early 1977 the KGB made its first political arrest in eight years, the arrested Platon Lebedev a co-owner of the biggest Russian oil company YUKOS who openly supported the opposition to the Communist regime. His arrest led to a threat from a number of Southern Regions of the Federation to stop cooperation, and Gorbachev ordered the opposition put down. When the army refused to follow orders the opposition saw their chance, and in mid 1977 called for a general strike to protest the government. Over one hundred thousand people poured onto the streets of Moscow in protest, and the numbers were even larger in some other cities. In July 1977 Gorbachev resigned.
Chubais
Chubais was an economist from the liberal field. He formed a minority government in late July since nobody could master a majority in the Duma. In the short six months that he was in office Chubais was responsible for the beginning of the economic reform. Not only did he return everything that the Communists had confiscated, but also he went further and ordered a complete privatization of the national sector. The military industry was about the only thing that was to remain in governments hands. His plan included laws to avoid monopolies, regulations on business, and modernization of the economic regulations in Russia, and would have taken two years or thereabouts to complete. He, however, did not have two years, as his government lost popularity and collapsed in January 1978.
Gaidar
The man who came after Chubais was Gaidar, a very strong and outspoken radical liberal. He took Chubais reforms, but changed them the way he saw fit. Regulations on monopolies were removed, no new laws to regulate economy took place, and the privatization went to the highest bidder, often at a price much less than the actual cost of the company. And so, in March 1978 Russia changed to a free market economy, while retaining its old system of regulating it. The system instantly created a class of oligarchs who profited most from the privatization and now owned giant companies, the media, the press, and everything else that was for sale. Including elections. The few media oligarchs controlled the 1978 elections into Duma and as a result they now took the liberal Gaidar government that brought them into power out of power.
Oligarchy 1978-1979 Kasyanov
Military vs. Oligarchy
The Oligarchs bought themselves posts in the government and also put Mikhail Kasyanov in power as the Prime Minister. His job was to stay quite and stay out of the way of the Oligarchs. His ambition was the end of him however. While the Oligarchs ran the country Kasyanov planned for a creation of his own power structure that would put him in place. His friends from the military occupied high posts soon enough and he begun to press down on the Oligarchs corruption. As a response to that most Oligarchs removed his funding and started an open campaign against him. One man that stood out during this campaign was Mikhail Khodorkovsky the owner of YUKOS. He did not become an Oligarch during the mad privatization under Gaidar, but was simply given his company back by Chubais. As one of the old economists he supported the moderate centrists who opposed both the new Kasyanov power class and the Oligarchs that came out of Gaidars privatization. In preparations for the 1980 elections he begun major funding of centrist parties and in mid 1979 was arrested by the KGB. In a protest the centrist parties did not attend the next Duma session. Open protests erupted in major cities, and the Oligarchs shut down the economy of the nation. One by one Kasyanovs ministers submitted their letters of resignation but he held on. Next week however the Duma met and the Communists, Moderates, and Oligarchs, united together against Kasyanov, passed a Vote of No Conficence in Government. Kasyanov left peacefully when he saw the many thousand crowd in Red Square demanding his resignation. The year was 1979 and Russia was entering a New Age.
The New Age 1979-1980 Khodorkovsky
From Prison to the Premiers Chair
That was the path Khodorkovsky took. Straight out of jail where he was for a political crime he was appointed Prime Minister of a minority centrist government. An incredibly popular figure, a martyr for freedom who was imprisoned for political reasons he easily led his centrist coalition to victory in the 1980 elections. Relying on a strong central government that Kasyanov had built and with the support from the Oligarchy and a centrist base Khodorkovsky began his work. Oligarchy was decreased and broken up through a series of laws regulating business. Reforms were pushed through the Duma very fast that basically amounted to Chubais plan that was proposed two years earlier. After the death of the serious Oligarchy and a return to honest business Khodorkovsky asked for transparency in all business affairs. Democracy that was under attack the last few years has been strengthened by a set of laws forbidding monopolies in the media and eradicated corruption. The economy begun to work the way it was supposed to, with business being independent of government and a capitalist free market economy. The government that suffered a loss of income during the Reformation years was now able to thrive and gain capital through the vibrant new economy that was born with the opening of the new decade in Russia.
The Putin Period 1969-1976 Putin
A Strong Russia
Putin served as Prime Minister of the Communist Empire of Russia during 1967, and was elected again in 1969 but now as Prime Minister of the Russian Federation. He was directly responsible for the collapse of the Communist Regime in Russia and the disintegration of the Communist Coalition. This veteran politician however did know what he was doing, because as a result of the collapse Russia inherited most of the Coalition weapons, technologies, infrastructure, and projects. The move avoided another World War with the SADETO forces in South America, and at the same time strengthened Russia. Having achieved this, and taking advantage of the chaos in the world that the fall of the Coalition entailed Putin went on a campaign to strengthen Russian position in the World.
The Reformation 1976-1978 Gorbachev, Chubais, and Gaidar
Gorbachev
In 1976 United Russia lost its majority in the Duma and so a new government was formed, setting in motion a long string of events that would last for four years. A leftist Socialist-Communist Coalition formed the new government in 1976 with Mikhail Gorbachev as the Prime Minister. Gorbachev was a moderate Communist, but still a Communist, and as a Communist he thought Putin too liberal. In 1976 a number of freedoms were curtailed in the name of Mother Russia, and the Communists began a reform of the government. By the end of the 1976 the Communists managed to push through legislature that would reserve half of the seats in the Duma to be elected by local Soviets, which now made up less than five percent of the population. Next came the attack on big business, with a number of major companies being nationalized. In the early 1977 the KGB made its first political arrest in eight years, the arrested Platon Lebedev a co-owner of the biggest Russian oil company YUKOS who openly supported the opposition to the Communist regime. His arrest led to a threat from a number of Southern Regions of the Federation to stop cooperation, and Gorbachev ordered the opposition put down. When the army refused to follow orders the opposition saw their chance, and in mid 1977 called for a general strike to protest the government. Over one hundred thousand people poured onto the streets of Moscow in protest, and the numbers were even larger in some other cities. In July 1977 Gorbachev resigned.
Chubais
Chubais was an economist from the liberal field. He formed a minority government in late July since nobody could master a majority in the Duma. In the short six months that he was in office Chubais was responsible for the beginning of the economic reform. Not only did he return everything that the Communists had confiscated, but also he went further and ordered a complete privatization of the national sector. The military industry was about the only thing that was to remain in governments hands. His plan included laws to avoid monopolies, regulations on business, and modernization of the economic regulations in Russia, and would have taken two years or thereabouts to complete. He, however, did not have two years, as his government lost popularity and collapsed in January 1978.
Gaidar
The man who came after Chubais was Gaidar, a very strong and outspoken radical liberal. He took Chubais reforms, but changed them the way he saw fit. Regulations on monopolies were removed, no new laws to regulate economy took place, and the privatization went to the highest bidder, often at a price much less than the actual cost of the company. And so, in March 1978 Russia changed to a free market economy, while retaining its old system of regulating it. The system instantly created a class of oligarchs who profited most from the privatization and now owned giant companies, the media, the press, and everything else that was for sale. Including elections. The few media oligarchs controlled the 1978 elections into Duma and as a result they now took the liberal Gaidar government that brought them into power out of power.
Oligarchy 1978-1979 Kasyanov
Military vs. Oligarchy
The Oligarchs bought themselves posts in the government and also put Mikhail Kasyanov in power as the Prime Minister. His job was to stay quite and stay out of the way of the Oligarchs. His ambition was the end of him however. While the Oligarchs ran the country Kasyanov planned for a creation of his own power structure that would put him in place. His friends from the military occupied high posts soon enough and he begun to press down on the Oligarchs corruption. As a response to that most Oligarchs removed his funding and started an open campaign against him. One man that stood out during this campaign was Mikhail Khodorkovsky the owner of YUKOS. He did not become an Oligarch during the mad privatization under Gaidar, but was simply given his company back by Chubais. As one of the old economists he supported the moderate centrists who opposed both the new Kasyanov power class and the Oligarchs that came out of Gaidars privatization. In preparations for the 1980 elections he begun major funding of centrist parties and in mid 1979 was arrested by the KGB. In a protest the centrist parties did not attend the next Duma session. Open protests erupted in major cities, and the Oligarchs shut down the economy of the nation. One by one Kasyanovs ministers submitted their letters of resignation but he held on. Next week however the Duma met and the Communists, Moderates, and Oligarchs, united together against Kasyanov, passed a Vote of No Conficence in Government. Kasyanov left peacefully when he saw the many thousand crowd in Red Square demanding his resignation. The year was 1979 and Russia was entering a New Age.
The New Age 1979-1980 Khodorkovsky
From Prison to the Premiers Chair
That was the path Khodorkovsky took. Straight out of jail where he was for a political crime he was appointed Prime Minister of a minority centrist government. An incredibly popular figure, a martyr for freedom who was imprisoned for political reasons he easily led his centrist coalition to victory in the 1980 elections. Relying on a strong central government that Kasyanov had built and with the support from the Oligarchy and a centrist base Khodorkovsky began his work. Oligarchy was decreased and broken up through a series of laws regulating business. Reforms were pushed through the Duma very fast that basically amounted to Chubais plan that was proposed two years earlier. After the death of the serious Oligarchy and a return to honest business Khodorkovsky asked for transparency in all business affairs. Democracy that was under attack the last few years has been strengthened by a set of laws forbidding monopolies in the media and eradicated corruption. The economy begun to work the way it was supposed to, with business being independent of government and a capitalist free market economy. The government that suffered a loss of income during the Reformation years was now able to thrive and gain capital through the vibrant new economy that was born with the opening of the new decade in Russia.
Did we go over the Australia thing? I don't remember ever ACTUALLY talking to you about it...
I remember complaining to Goobs, and then AFTER HE STOPPED IT, he said he realised it was unfair. The hatred. Oh, the hatred.
I remember complaining to Goobs, and then AFTER HE STOPPED IT, he said he realised it was unfair. The hatred. Oh, the hatred.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
We went over my explanation for why I did it a million times, as to if it was unfair...I dont see how, but maybe, that is between you and Goobs. However mods have to make calls on this thing, and I find it best if, unless the mod overlooked something very important, the players do not complain. I have been in too many NESes where complaining players after each turn drove the mod to quit Hint:stJNES4
Goober
Turning Right ...
Ok, I have received 23 sets of orders, 4 of those being text documents over E-mail, totalling 72 pages. Yes, I must read through 72 pages, and 19 PMs of orders.
I have received orders from all BUT Sweden Acadia and Denmark. Those are IceEye, Tragdor, whom I shall try and kick awake over MSN, and Red Masque. So I assume that you guys want me to keep going
Anyway, the Update shall be done, well, when i can do it. I can do some tomorrow, and some Friday, it will be up by Saturday, probably.
fantasmo - Australia got invaded because you were being a stubborn jerk about Ceylon. Your nation got anthrax because you had huge warehouses with 9 eco of anthrax in them sporead throughout your country, which were such tempting targets for the KGB bombers. Face facts - Australia was invaded because of you. silver and Stormy did what anybody else would do to an unreasonable player. We have been over this repeatedly. Ok?
And I have a good thick skin guys. I can take critism. And a thick skull . . .
I have received orders from all BUT Sweden Acadia and Denmark. Those are IceEye, Tragdor, whom I shall try and kick awake over MSN, and Red Masque. So I assume that you guys want me to keep going
Anyway, the Update shall be done, well, when i can do it. I can do some tomorrow, and some Friday, it will be up by Saturday, probably.
fantasmo - Australia got invaded because you were being a stubborn jerk about Ceylon. Your nation got anthrax because you had huge warehouses with 9 eco of anthrax in them sporead throughout your country, which were such tempting targets for the KGB bombers. Face facts - Australia was invaded because of you. silver and Stormy did what anybody else would do to an unreasonable player. We have been over this repeatedly. Ok?
And I have a good thick skin guys. I can take critism. And a thick skull . . .
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
If we count each PM as one page full of orders then my orders take up only 8.8% of the total, which is not that bad.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
But some put more and some put less in their PMs, so I counted on average one page full.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
You had 44 pages of stuff for your country?? 
Goober
Turning Right ...
I shall explain what all his stories were about later. Suffice to say, Banana has far too much time on his hands. I mean, what he gave me is nothing short of monstrous.
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