GOTM 140 Spoiler

[haleewud]

Here is the next portion of the log.

My goals for this portion were:
1) Continue Trade
2) 1 tech advance every turn
3) factories and Hoover Dam
4) Eliminate Carths

Here are the results:
1) 52 deliveries were made for 19171 gold. First +1000 gold delivery came in 1250. I think this went pretty well.
2) I missed on 5 of the 25 turns (1030, 1080, 1090, 1150 and 1230). 1080 and 1090 were a miscalculation when the government fell after I failed to withdraw from Carthage
3) 4 Factories came online in 1030. Hoover Dam was built in 1060. There were 12 factories in 1250
4) I reduced the Carths to one city in 1110. Decided it wasn't woth the effort (at this time) to subvert Utica.
4a) I captured Cardiff when the Celts made the mistake of stealing Metallurgy. Then I was able to get 3 more cities when the Aztecs offered an alliance in +1250.

+1010 Electricity -> Electronics (1715), Kandahar founded, Foreign deliveries 290, 312 and 170, give 15 techs to Sioux (1372), 208 spent on RBs
+1020 Celts/Aztecs war, Electronics -> Steel (1500), 1546 spent on RBs
+1030 Hut -> Advanced Tribe -> Altin Tepe, Hut-> 2 barb Knights, Foreign delivery 315, 610 spent on RBs
+1040 Carth govt overthrown, Steel -> Conscription (), hut -> 2 barb Knights, Foreign deliveries 336 and 365, 405 spent on RBs
+1050 Carths establish Despotism, Aztec govt overthrown, Conscription -> Combustion, Foreign deliveries 344 and 576, 634 spent on RBs
+1060 Celts Industrialization, Aztecs establish Republic, Combustion -> Refrigeraton, Perse builds Hoover Dam, Domestic deliveries 254 and 254, Foreign deliveries 160 and 200, hut -> 100, 170 spent on RBs
+1070 Refrigeraton -> Warrior Code, Trade with Celts Physics -> Warrior Code, Foreign deliveries 516 and 372, Bunyan founded, 814 spent on RBs
+1080 Carths demand withdrawal, I renounce Treaty, Govt falls in Scandal, WAR, Carths kill 1 Engineer, Kill Legion, Phalanx, Archer and Phalanx in Carthage (destroyed), found Charsadda on former Carthage location, Hut -> 100, Hut -> 100, 784 spent on RBs
+1090 Democracy reestablished, Hut -> Advanced Tribe -> Ura Tyube (size 3 with Temple and Mktplc), Kill Carth Ele, Bribe Carth warrior 46, 61 spent on RBs
+1100 start Communism, Communism -> Espionage, Foreign deliveries 378, 384 and 236, 1104 spent on RBs
+1110 Espionage -> Feudalism, Bribe Malaca 417 (321+Barrack+2Archers+Elephant+Settler), Bribe Carth warrior for 36, Senate signs Cease-Fire and Peace Treaty, Subvert Panormus for 2 X 277 (spy capture, 165+Barracks+Temple+Mktplc+Colo+Legion+Warrior), Bribe Carth Settler for 256, Foreign deliveries for 152, 390, 142 and 232, 876 spent on RBs
+1120 Feudalism -> Chivalry, Foreign delivery 504, 331 spent on RBs
+1130 Sioux Gunpowder, Chivalry -> Theology (1888), Naples founded, Bribe Barb Cannon 82, Foreign deliveries 372, 335 and 284, 844 spent on RBs
+1140 Theology -> Fundamentalism, Foreign delivery 287, 234 spent on RBs
+1150 Aztecs Industrialization, Domestic delivery 206, Foreign deliveries 160 and 190, 187 spent on RBs
+1160 Celts Writing, Fundy -> Leadership, Hamadan builds Bach's, Hut -> Advanced Tribe -> Issus (size 3 with Temple), Cunaxa founded, Foreign deliveries 714 and 158, 660 spent on RBs
+1170 Barbs land near Sidon, Kill Transport and Freight, Aztecs ask for Alliance, no, Leadership -> Tactics, kill Barbs near Sidon, Bribe barb Frigate 102, Foreign deliveries 495 and 552, 807 spent on RBs
+1180 Tactics -> Machine Tools, Bribe Barb Leader 61, Domestic deliveries 442 and 288, Foreign delivery 384, 752 spent on RBs
+1190 Machine Tools -> Automobile (2240), Domestic delivery 220, Foreign delivery 600, 651 spent on RBs
+1200 Celts steal Metallurgy => WAR, Automobile -> Miniaturization (2235), Land troops near Kells, Kill Celt Catapult, Domestic delivery 230, Foreign deliveries 630, 236 and 276, 981 spent on RBs
+1210 Miniaturization -> Mobile Warfare (2376), Bribe Barb Knight 82, Leader 61, Domestic delivery 205, Foreign deliveries 485 and 528, Give 5 tech to Sioux (tech cost falls to 2178), 1392 spent on RBs
+1220 Mobile Warfare -> Mass Production (2211), Kill 2 Muskest+Phalanx in Cardiff, Capture Cardiff (Pyramids+KRC+GL+188+Mktplc), Senate signs CF, Celts offer 400 for Peace, accepted, 463 spent on RBs
+1230 Cremona founded, Foreign deliveries 570 and 675, 1593 spent on RBs
+1240 Mass Production -> Computers (2380), hut -> 5 Barb Cavalry, Domestic deliveries 506 and 216, Foreign delivery 208, 465 spent on RBs
+1250 Spy killed by Barbs, Aztecs develop Communism, offer 150 for War on Celts, I agree, Computer -> Nuclear Fission (2415), Foreign delivery 1592, Kill Phalx+2Warrior in Kells, Kill Musket+Phalanx in Caerphilly, Capture Caerphilly (142+Mktplc), Bribe Kells for 227 (125+Mktplc+Lib+Colosseum), Bribe Tintagel for 344 (178+Mktplc+Musket+Warror), Hut -> 100, 950 spent on RBs

stats at +1250:
pop.: 35.77M; cities: 43; techs: 68, gov: Democracy, gold: 744; trade routes: 62D28F; cost/turn: 275
units: 29 Engineers, 1 Warriors, 1 Musketeers, 10 Riflemen, 1 Knights, 9 Cavalry, 3 Artillery, 13 Transport, 1 Diplomat, 6 Spies, 27 Freight
Wonders: Pyramids, HG, Colossus, LH, GL, KRC, MPE, Mike's, Cope's, Magallan, Shake's, Leo's, Bach's, Newton, Darwin, Hoover
Footprint: 22 cities in Persia, 8 on Celtic land, 4 on Sioux land, 1 on 2, 1 on 8, 1 on 14, 2 on 17, 1 on 20, 3 on 22

Celts: 4 Cities, 33 Tech, 779 Gold. War, Republic
Aztecs: 3 Cities, 25 Tech, 169 Gold. Allied, War with Celts, Republic, Oracle, GW
Carthaginians: 1 Cities, 18 Tech, 423 Gold. Peace, Despotism
Indians: Destroyed
Sioux: 3 Cities, 44 Tech, 1661 Gold. Peace, Republic


Goals for next segment: Launch Full Spaceship

 

[Ali Ardavan]

+1260 Nuclear Power -> Mobile Warfare. Deliveries for 156, 132, 132, 210.
+1270 Mobile Warfare -> Robotics -> Laser. Issus disbanded. T4L3S3. Deliveries for 504, 450, 214, 234.
+1280 Laser -> Communism. Computers -> Aztec -> Communism. Deliveries for 162, 160, 142, 174.
+1290 -> Espionage -> Guerrilla warfare. Deliveries for 230
+1300 Guerrilla warfare -> Flight. Deliveries for 108, 1029. T3L3S4
+1310 Flight -> Radio -> Advanced Flight. SETI built. Deliveries for 187
+1320 Advanced Flight -> Combined Arms. Deliveries for 94, 107, 112
+1330 Combined Arms -> Rocketry. Deliveries for 168, 232. T4L3S3
+1340 Rocketry -> Space Flight -> Environmentalism. Babol relocated. Deliveries for 220, 280, 43, 159. Melbourne founded.
+1350 Aztecs start Darwin. Environmentalism -> Labor Union.
+1360 Celts steal Spice Flight. I keep the peace. Labor Union -> Plastics. Deliveries for 318, 272, 244
+1370 Celts start Apollo! Plastics ->Superconductor. Deliveries for 164, 68.
+1380 Hoover built. Superconductor -> Fundamentalism. Persepolis maxes out at 35. Deliveries for 136, 316.
+1390 Fundamentalism -> Fusion Power. Deliveries for 212, 276.
+1400 Fusion Power -> Future Tech 1. Deliveries for 100
+1410 Future Tech 1 -> Stealth. Neyriz founded. Deliveries for 154, 248, 162, 157, 272
+1420 Stealth -> Future Tech 2 -> 3. Canberra founded. Celts refuse to remove their units and declare war instead forcing me to kill 2 units. Deliveries for 216, 155
+1430 Future Tech 3 -> 4. Apollo built. Spahan founded. Deliveries for 192, 120, 144
+1440 Future Tech 4 -> 5. Space race starts. Jersey founded. Deliveries for 160, 136, 104
+1450 Future Tech 5 -> 6. Adelaide and Man founded. Deliveries for 215, 208. Texcoco on island 14 subverted for 2x600g.
+1460 Future Tech 6 -> 7. Fereidoon founded. Deliveries for 107.
+1470 Future Tech 7 -> 8. Zahedan founded. Deliveries for 234.
+1480 Future Tech 8 -> 9. Celts join the space race. Deliveries for 115, 155, 208, 115, 200, 120, 154.
+1490 Celts build Liberty. Future Tech 9 -> 10. Laar founded. Deliveries for 156.
+1500 Future Tech 10 -> 11. Deliveries for 332, 188, 128

Status at +1500
Population: 90.4M; Cities: 83; Techs: all+10FT; Government: Democracy
Gold: 3725; Cost: 813; Trade routes: 39 short of full;
Ancient Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens, Lighthouse
Medieval Wonders: Marco, Copernicus, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shakespeare
Industrial Wonders: Leo, Bach, Newton
Modern Wonders: Cure, Hoover, SETI, Apollo
Units: 51 Engineers (3 None), 36 defenders, 1 Dragoon, 5 Cavalry, 1 Stealth Fighter, 8 Transport, 2 Diplomats, 2spy, 14 vans
Goals: Launch of full space ship; currently about one third done.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

+1505 Future Tech 11 -> 12. Deliveries for 324, 176, 132
+1510 Future Tech 12 -> 13. Sarvestan founded. Deliveries for 358.
+1515 Future Tech 13 -> 14 -> 15. Barbarian units bribed for 41g and 102g and used to kill another barbarian. Deliveries for 167, 316, 178, 198, 328.
+1520 Large barbarian uprising near Texcoco. Future Tech 15 -> 16. Hormoz and Chapultepec founded. Alpine kills a barbarian and turns vet. Deliveries for 140, 178. T3L3S4
+1525 Future Tech 16 -> 17. Barbarian units bribed for 41g, 2x102g, 2x123g. 2 barbarian units killed and leader captured for 100g. Deliveries for 292, 187.
+1530 Barbarians kill a van. Aztecs take undefended Man and sink a transport with 3 units on board. Future Tech 17 -> 18 -> 19. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+1535 Aztecs lose a frigate attacking my transport. Future Tech 19 -> 20. Senate hands Aztecs cease fire. Deliveries for 270, 232, 480, 174.
+1540 Celts raze defenseless Sarvestan. Future Tech 20 -> 21 -> 22. Full space ship launched. Senate hands cease fire to Celts. Man subverted for 2x186g. Deliveries for 164, 112, 150
+1541 Future Tech 22 -> 23. Sarvestan refounded. Deliveries for 290, 536, 200, 84.
+1542 Future Tech 23 -> 24. Deliveries for 324.
+1543 Future Tech 24 -> 25 -> 26. Darwin founded. Deliveries for 299, 168, 271, 155, 184.
+1544 Future Tech 26 -> 27. Coatepec and Coyotepec founded. Deliveries for 84, 78, 120, 82, 72. T2L3S5
+1545 Aztecs raze defenseless Darwin. Future Tech 27 -> 28 -> 29 -> 30 -> 31. Darwin and Adam Smith built. Aztec capital is defended by an Alpine and a diplomat without any city walls! My formerly barbarian artillery kill both units easily and the capital is taken for Pyramids, Great Library, and 95g. 2 Partisans appear and are bribed for 172g each. Engineer bribed for 252g. Tlaxcala bribed for 416g. One partisan appears . Tlat bribed for 584g. Got 83g and 1 unit. Another partisan appears. The two partisans killed at the expense of 3 units. Aztecs are down to one land locked city. Perth founded. Deliveries for 84. T3L3S4
+1546 Future Tech 31 -> 32. Tenochtitlan bribed for 272g. Spy lost. Got 281g! Aztec civilization destroyed.
+1547 Indians join the space race. Future Tech 32 -> 33 -> 34. Eiffel built. Wollongong founded. Deliveries for 330, 422, 134, 86.
+1548 Future Tech 34 -> 35. UN built. Deliveries for 118, 524, 1133. T2L3S5
+1549 Future Tech 35 -> 36 -> 37. Behistun, Andimeshk, Daryakenar, Tlap, Oea, and Rusucurru founded. Deliveries for 144, 375, 448, 98, 294, 12, 300, 50. T0L3S7
+1550 Future Tech 37 -> 38 -> 39 -> 40. Oracle, Sun Tzu, King Richard, Suffrage, Manhattan built. Tingis, Berkeh, Endgame 1, and Tula founded. Deliveries for 814. T0L10S0

 

[haleewud]

+1544 Future Tech 26 -> 27. Coatepec and Coyotepec founded. Deliveries for 84, 78, 120, 82, 72. T2L3S5
+1545 Aztecs raze defenseless Darwin. Future Tech 27 -> 28 -> 29 -> 30 -> 31.

How many cities did you have at this point? What was the tech cost? 4 advances is one turn on 50% science with only a small delivery bonus (436) seems like a lot.

 

[haleewud]

Oops, sorry, I didn't notice the whole "Darwin and Adam Smith built" entry. That makes a lot more sense.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Exactly. The box was almost full. I increased the science temporarily to achieve another discovery shortly before Darwin is built.

As you know Darwin gives you the tech you are currently researching and one more. If you are very close to achieving that tech all the arrows in your box go to waste so it pays to fine tune your tech rate and mix of scientists for the turn you are building Darwin.

 

[Major Advantage]

Ali, what was left of the AI in your game (cities, wonders)? Nice job of building up score, we'll have to see if my earliness can make up for that.

Here is my final part, it has been so peaceful by me throughout the game until then, so I didn't want to start any war then. I kept calculating my "gap", the gold missing for my spaceship. That is gold I had minus 120 for each structure minus 200 for every freight that was missing to have 1 for each structure, 3 for each component and 6 for each module.

1010 Space->Plastics, cancel science for now
(Celts about to finish Darwin, barb dragoons near Arbela, kill an engineer)
1020 bribe healthy barb drag for 102, move defender to Arbela
(Celts build Darwin)
1030 Plastics->Supercond.
1050 Supercond.->Espionage spaceship-completion-gap: still ~19k gold...
1070 Esp.->Fusion gap: 17.6k
1080 -13.6k
1090 Fusion->Recycling, spent some vans on unblocking commodities, gap 10.8k
1100 demanded gold from Eureka>Cardiff (there should be a number here, probably a littler over 1000g), gap 8.5k, Apollo will be done in 2 turns
1110 Recycl.->Guerilla
1120 Apollo built! 142 vans and 9500 gold ready to be spent on spaceship-building, this is gonna take some time
1130 ship is 19-4-4-4-3-3 (not enough cities to get in done in one turn), get Guerilla from India
1140 FT1->FT2; Full-size spaceship launched to land in 1151
1141 FT2->Amph. Warfare
1143 Amph W.->FT3; U.N. built
1144 FT3->FT4; Eiffel Tower
1145 FT4->Envir.
1146 Env.->FT5
1147 FT5->FT6, KRC
1148 FT6->Labor Union
1149 Labor->FT7, Great Library, Statue of Liberty
1150 FT8->FT9, Great Wall, Women's Suffering, Hoover Dam, couldn't complete Manhattan
1151 Alpha Centauri

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Ali, what was left of the AI in your game (cities, wonders)?

Celts grew aggressive at the end but were too technologically behind to be more than a nuisance. All I did to contain them was to build a fort at the choke point connecting my province of Khuzestan (4 cities) in the NW of their continent to them and build a stealth fighter which did not see much action. The northern part of their continent I choked off much earlier with a None rifleman but an explorer got through and walked into my only city there razing it. I built that city back but the rest of that area remained undeveloped. They never bothered settling their nearby islands. They had about 10 cities and 2 wonders at the end.

Egyptians spawned after the conquest of Aztecs on the small 3-tile island north of Aztecs. One city and no wonders.

Carthaginians were reduced to a single city in mid game and remained peaceful to the end. The city was on a small island near the South pole east of Persia. Their former cities, some with ancient wonders, became assimilated.

Indians had trouble early on with Celts and may not have survived without the advanced techs I kept gifting them. They built no more than 3 cities one of which was razed by Celts early on. They had 2 cities for most of the game all the way to the end. They never built any wonders.

Nice job of building up score, we'll have to see if my earliness can make up for that.

You launched in 1140 and I in 1540 which is 44 turns later. Since the GOTM score goes down by a little less than 2% per turn. My score has to be more than 2.3 times yours to compensate for that. My guess is that it will not be.