GOTM 150 Spoiler

[Inkerman]

My approach will be to pop many huts and see what develops. I will not found a city so that a large NON army is created.

I note the wider valley starts one third up map - about 80 spaces up the river, and there are 166 beyond. At the start I will pop the adjacent hut. I plan to move up the valley with the settler, and then branch off to the potential 4-special settlement area to the side. The archer will head off into the mountains to start the hut pops.

As we go I have the map editor open and the tracks of my troops are marked by ocean.

4000- Pop hut: it took 11 attempts to get the required archers, they set off up river.
3950- -
3900- -
3850- hut(11,243):archers
3800- -
3750- hut(17,243):25g
3700- -
3650- hut(24,228):archers, hut(5,241):WC
3600- -
3550- hut(23,245):archers
3500- hut(29,219):Pottery
3450- -
3400- -
3350- hut(4,230):archers, hut(23,217):archers
3300- hut(22,234):archers
3250- hut(17,217):chariot
3200- hut(6,224):HBR, hut(35,247):25g
3150- hut(10,232):25g, hut(25,211):50g
3100- hut(50,200):archers, hut(28,236):archers
3050- hut(19,211):horse
3000- hut(41,249):50g

Demographics - we are 1st or 7th in everything. 9 archers, 1 horse, 1 chariot.

I had not realised we would not get barbs doing this, presumably because we have no city; I guess I should have done.

2950- hut:Wheel. hut:archers.
2900- -
2850- hut:archers. hut:50g. hut:archers. hut:archers.
2800- hut:100g. hut:horse.
2750- hut:Masonry.
2700- hut:horse. hut:chariot.
2650- hut:archers. hut:archers. hut:archers. hut:horse.
2600- hut:Alphabet. hut:horse. hut:horse.
2550- hut:25g.
2500- Reach Zulu city of Ulundi. Swap Alphabet for CB. Peace. Get tribute 50g. hut:50g.

2450- hut:25g. hut:horse.
2400- Zulus block advance round sides of Ulundi - we do not attack.
hut:25g. hut:Maths. hut:BW.
2350- hut: archers. hut:chariot. hut:Writing. hut:25g. hut:100g. hut:archers
Zulus ask us to withdraw to nearest city - we do, but having no city, nothing moves.
2300- hut:archers. hut:50g.
2250- hut:25g. hut:50g. hut:chariot. hut:horse.
2200- hut:archers. hut:25g. hut:MM.
2150- hut:CoL. hut:Iron. hut:25g.
2100- Zulus refuse tribute. Find Zimbabwe. hut:Currency. hut:Literacy. hut:chariot.
2050- 25g tribute from Zulus. hut:Monarchy - revolution. hut:Polytheism. hut:legion.
2000- hut:Feudalism. hut:Mysticism. hut:ele. hut:Republic. hut:50g.

I got 10 techs in the last batch of pops, many more than expected. Anyway, we have a decision coming up.

Army (not very well placed, being largely away from the valley): 20 archers, 1 legion, 8 horse, 5 chariot, 1 ele.
Techs:20. Gold:875.

 

[haleewud]

I also decided that I would pop a lot of huts.
But one thing I noticed is that the original site was very close to the date line. A city in the mountains at 78,248 could share the Oasis and the Ivory with a city at the initial starting point.
So after popping a couple of huts, I devoted the settler to improving the terrain around the site.
I roaded and irrigated the Oasis, two other plains (that could also be shared), one of the shield grass and put a road in the silk and 1 other plains.

It took me 5 tries to get the Archer.

-4000 Hut -> Masonry, Horsemen, Masonry, HBR, Archer. Archer heads east, settler heads west.
-3900 Settler pops hut at 79,249 get Archer, Settler will now start terraforming
-3850 Hut -> HBR-3800 Hut -> Chariot
-3700 Hut -> Pottery-3600 Hut -> Chariot
-3550 Hut -> Chariot
-3500 Hut -> Archer
-3400 Huts -> Masonry and 50g
-3350 Huts -> Chariot and 100g
-3250 Hut -> Chariot
-3150 Hut -> Archer
-3100 Huts -> 50g, BW and Archer
-3050 Huts -> Archer, 50g and CB
-3000 Huts -> Wheel and Archer

stats at -3000:
pop.: .01M; cities: 0; techs: 6, gov: Depostism, gold: 250; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 1 Settler, 7 Archer, 5 Chariot
wonders: None
Footprint: 1 Chariot is following the river. Currently at 64,186

Zulus: No Contact
French: No Contact
Spanish: No Contact
Chinese: No Contact
Carthaginian: No Contact
Sioux: No Contact

So far luck has been good. 22 huts have been popped. 12 Units, 6 Tech and 4 Gold.
Huts are coming much faster now.


-2950 Huts -> WC and Mysticism
-2900 Huts -> Horsemen, IW and 100g
-2850 Huts -> Chariot, 25g and Horsemen
-2800 Hut -> Legion
-2750 Huts -> Horsemen, Polytheism, 25g and Currency
-2700
-2650 Huts -> Elephant, Alphabet and Legion
-2600 Huts -> Writing and Code of Laws
-2550 Encounter Zulus at Zimbabwe, I am supreme, get 50 tribute from Zulus, I have 3 Chariots near Zimbabwe, Huts -> Monarchy, Legion and 100g
-2500 Huts -> 50g, 50g and Feudalism, REVOLUTION
-2450 Monarchy established, Hut -> 25g and 25g
-2400 Huts -> Map Making, Elephant, Chivalry and 100g
-2350 Huts -> Knight and Legion
-2300 Huts -> Seafaring and Legion
-2250 Huts -> Legion, Legion, Knight, 100g and 50g
-2200 Huts -> Literacy and Legion
-2150 Huts -> Knight, Legion, Mathematics and Knight
-2100 Huts -> Knight, Legion, Knight, Legion
-2050 Huts -> Astronomy, Legion, Knight and 50g, Kill warrior in Zimbabwe, Destroy Zimbabwe (6)
-2000 Huts -> Knight, Legion and Trade, Sign CF and Peace Treaty with Zulus, no Tribute (probably not enough money)

stats at -2000:
pop.: .01M; cities: 0; techs: 23, gov: Monarchy, gold: 1006; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 1 Settler, 7 Archer, 13 Legion, 3 Horsemen, 6 Chariot, 2 Elephant, 8 Knights
wonders: None
Footprint: Lead Chariot is at 43,127

Zulus: No Embassy, Peace
French: No Contact
Spanish: No Contact
Chinese: No Contact
Carthaginian: No Contact
Sioux: No Contact

During the 20 turns above, 56 huts were popped, 27 units (mostly Legions and Knights), 17 Tech and 12 gold.
So the total now stands at 78 huts; 39 units, 23 tech and 16 gold.

 

[Inkerman]

I am going to have cities.

1950- hut:25g.
1900- hut:chivalry. hut:knights.
1850- become monarchy. hut:knights. hut:legion. hut:astronomy. hut:50g. hut:knights.
1800- Attack Zulus. hut:construction. hut:legion. hut:knights. hut:knights. hut:50g. hut:50g.
1750- Raze Zimbabwe taking 9g. hut:legion. hut:knights.
Lose one archer by Ulundi.
1700- hut:seafaring - explorers now available but need a city, or two, to build. hut:BB. hut:knights. hut:knights.
Found Moscow(1,169). Capture Zulu Ulundi and 22g.
Start on Philosophy. (at 70% it is 172 turns!)
1650- Lose knights attacking Bapedi. Raze Bapedi (archers become vet). Zulus elim.
hut:navigation. hut(70,170):nomads. hut:weeds.
Babyl settler approaches us (in the valley) -
1600- complete dip and explorer. hut:engineering. hut:trade. hut:banking.
A square (77,177) I was expecting glacier/oil, is whales. hut:barbs. hut:barbs.
1550-
Archers lost to barbs.
1500- A horse reaches unpopped hut on river in valley - will bypass for now.
hut:legion(Moscow).

1450- hut:invention - no more tech pops. We did well in what we got but there could have been more. hut:50g. hut:50g. hut:barbs. hut:50g.
Horse lost to barbs.
1400- hut:50g. hut:50g. hut:barbs.
1350- Bribe Babyl settlers for 164g. They found StPetersburg. Babyls have phalanx and knights.
Meet French, get 100g. hut:legion. hut: barbs (8 legions!) hut:legion. hut:50g. hut:knights.
Explorer lost to barbs. Moscow is costing 1 shield for units now, hut popping to be restricted (have done most of those south of Moscow now anyway.).
1300- Attack Babyls - killing their two army units. Ulundi settler founds Kiev.
1250- Attack French - killing a phalanx. hut:25g. hut:100g. hut:50g.
1200- Bribe Babyl settler for 164g.
Babyls destroyed by barbs. Japanese appear, demand navigation and declare war when refused.
1150- hut:knights(NON). Knights lost attacking Paris, but it is captured.
Bump into Kyoto, in valley in south of map.
ex-Babyl settler founds Minsk.
Archer lost to barbs.
1100- Bribe Orleans for 114g, taking 38g back.
1050-
Chariot lost to French.
1000- Clear a couple of units out of the way, then bribe Lyons for 110g, getting 31g back.

Cities:8, Pop:12, Gold:365, Techs:30.
1 settler, 1 phalanx, 18 archers, 7 legion, 7 horse, 4 chariot, 1 ele, 8 knights, 2 dips, 1 van, 4 exp.
Have reached (57,113), by the French city of Rheims.

No wonder. With science at 50% we have discoveries every 155 turns.

 

[haleewud]

At this point, I had reached the slightly wider river valley and was beginning to see some huts on grassland. I was worried about getting an advanced tribe.
My settler was almost done terraforming and Moscow was finally founded in 1800BC. In 1750 (the next turn), I got my first "horde of barbarians" and my first Nomads.

-1950 Find Paris, 50 Tribute from French, Huts -> 50g, Knight and 50g
-1900 Hut -> Legion
-1850 Huts -> Legion, Knight and Knight
-1800 Huts -> Knight, 25g, Knight, Legion, Legion and Legion, Moscow founded
-1750 Start Republic, Huts -> Navigation, 1 Barb Horse and Nomads
-1700 Barb Horse kills my Horse, Huts -> Philosophy, 1 Barb Legion, Legion(NON) and Republic
-1650 Withdraw from Orleans?, No, WAR, Start Monotheism, RB 14sh+10sh(62), Huts -> Legion(Moscow) and Knight(NON)
-1600 Monotheism (from Philosophy) -> Contruction, Huts -> 1 Barb Horse, 1 Barb Legion, University and Construction
-1550 Knight and Archer killed by Barbs, Start Bridge Building, RB 9sh+10sh, Huts -> 3 Barb Legion, Medicine, 3 Barb Legions and [Physics]
-1500 Chariot killed by Barbs, Legion survives 2 attacks (Vet), Huts -> Legion(NON) and 3 barb Legions
-1450 Legion killed by Barbs, Huts -> Legion(NON), Theology and Advance Tribe (St. Petersburg)
-1400 Moscow builds Settler, Hut -> 100g
-1350 Huts -> Barb Legion, Banking, 50 and Crusader, Kiev Founded (in 'Mountain Oasis')
-1300 Meet Spanish, Give them MM, Nav, Physics, exchange maps, get 300g in tribute, RB Moscow 14sh+10sh(62), St. Petersburg 14sh+10sh(62), Hut -> 100g
-1250 French Horse kills Chariot in St. Petersburg (destroyed), Kill Phalanx in Paris (1 Knight dies), destroy Paris (10), French offer 50 for CF, I decline. Hut -> 50
-1200 Kill French Phalanx, Kill Phalanx in Ulundi, Capture Ulundi(23), Huts -> Nomads and Crusader(Kiev)
-1150 Moscow builds Settler, Kill Phalanx in Bapedi, destroy Bapedi(15), Zulus destroyed, Babylonian settler found on river at 58,192 (the settler retreats into the Mountains and I chase it for the next several turns), Huts -> 25 and Theory of Gravity
-1100 Huts -> 50g, 1 Barb Legion, Atomic Theory
-1050 RB Moscow 14sh+10sh(62), Hut -> Bridge Building
-1000 Start Magnetism, Minsk Founded, RB Ulundi 8sh+10sh(44), Hut -> 50


stats at -1000:
pop.: .10M; cities: 4; techs: 36, gov: Monarchy, gold: 1695; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 2 Settlers, 6 Archers, 21 Legions, 2 Horsemen, 3 Chariot, 2 Elephant, 2 Crusaders, 11 Knights
wonders: None
Footprint: My Lead chariot had reached 60,108 but died trying to defend St. Petersburg from the French. Currently, my lead Knight is at 48,122. I have exchanged maps with the Spanish, so I can see all the way to 19,71 (with a small gap).

Zulus: destroyed by Me
Babylonians: No Embassy
French: No Embassy
Spanish: No Embassy
Chinese: No contact
Carthaginian: No Contact
Sioux: No Contact

During the 20 turns above, 51 huts were popped, 19 units, 12 Tech, 10 gold, 9 Barbs and 1 Advanced Tribe.
So the total now stands at 129 huts; 58 units, 35 tech and 26 gold, 9 Barbs and 1 Advanced Tribe.

I probably should have given up on science production by this time. The scroll for Invention has not been discovered yet. The tech cost is currently 1369. At 70% science, I am producing 5 beakers per year (274 turns).

 

[Inkerman]

975- hut: barbs (8 horse.) hut: knights(Paris). hut: barbs(1 horse). hut: legion(Kiev)
Raze French Rheims, destroying French.
Explorer killed by barbs.
950-
925-
Chariot lost to barbs.
900- Meet Spanish, get 350g for peace. hut: legion(Lyons). NON settler founds Smolensk.
Hut:Nomads.
875-
850-
825- hut:knights.
We withdraw a knight at Spanish request.
800- hut:legion.
There are a couple a couple of Spanish units deep in the mountains.
775- NON settler founds Odessa, deep in the south near the original start.
hut: nomads. hut:nomads (in the middle of nowhere.)
Paris settler founds Sevastopol.
750- Meet Chinese, get 125g. Kiev settler founds Tblisi.

725- hut:legion. hut:25g. Found Sverdlovsk, Yakutsk.
700-
675- Found Vladivostok. Get 25g from Spanish. hut:50g.
650- hut:knights. Found Novgorod - new furthest north city, Riga and Krasnoyarsk.
We refuse to withdraw from Spanish area - they declare war.
625- Disorder Sevastopol. Destory Madrid, losing a couple of units, taking 8g. hut:nomads.
Chinese break ceasefire and kill knights.
600- Meet Carthags, agree peace, get 350g. hut:25g. hut:50g. hut:25g.
575- Capture Seville destroying Spanish. hut:50g.
550- Revolution. hut:50g. hut:knights.
525- Become republic. hut:50g. hut:25g. hut:legion.
Carthags ask us to withdraw from Nanking.
500- Raze Beijing. Bribe Chinese Shanghai for 120g, getting 40g back, and a settler. hut:nomads.
hut: 50g. Meet Sioux. Take 450g to agree Peace. Give BW, Invention, Construction, get map swap. They have 3 cities, and 12 units spread out in the wilderness.

Stats
Cities:20, Pop:35, Gold:1087, Techs:30. Republic.
5 settler, 1 phalanx, 16 archers, 11 legion, 7 horse, 3 chariot, 11 knights, 1 catapult, 2 dips, 10 vans, 4 explorers.
Furthest advance: explorer at (77, 31), leading troops (20,70).
No wonders, no trade. Paying for 2 x barracks.

Russians: Us - Supreme/Dishonourable.
Zulus: eliminated - now Japanese, Unco-op/War
French: eliminated - now ?
Spanish: eliminated - now ?
Chinese: Unco-op/War
Carthags: Unco-op/Peace
Sioux: Cordial/Peace

 

[Inkerman]

475- Destroy Japanese, using a catapult. Pile vans into Paris.
Bribe Canton for 180g - 105g back, destroying Chinese. hut:50g. hut:50g. hut:knights. hut:50g.
450- Paris builds Hanging Gardens. hut:100g.
425- hut:50g, hut:50g, hut:knights, hut:25g, hut:legion.
400- Van, Ulundi-Seville, Dye, for 44g. hut:50g.
375- Vladivostok completes MPE.
Worth doing, the Vikings (2 cities), Aztecs (1 city) and Ams (1 city) are in the game, somewhere. I had not guessed all would be re-spawned.
Carthags have 6 cities. Find Washington, in river valley, in the South.
hut: 25g. hut:25g. hut:knights, hut:barbs (8 horse.) hut:barbs(7 legion, 1 horse.) hut:legion. hut:50g.
Knight and explorer lost to barbs.
350- Give Republic to Sioux. hut:barbs (x8 again.) Found Rostov.
Withdraw when Carthags ask. Explorer lost.
325- hut:barbs.
Carthags get Polytheism (from a hut). Explorer lost to barbs.
300-
275- hut:50g. Found Astrakhan.
250- Discover Philosophy -> Democracy -> Monotheism. hut:legion. Revolution.
225- Minsk builds Pyramids. Become Democracy. hut:barbs. hut:legion. hut:legion.
Pity - these three huts were at north end and I wanted one nomads. Legion lost to barbs.
Need to bring in any supported units from outside - takes a while.
200-
175- Inadvertently deliver Gems from Odessa to Trondheim(Viking), 18g. hut:legion.
150-
125- hut:legion. Found Kharkov, Grozny.
100- hut:nomads.
Carthags start Colossus.
75- Ulundi completes library - at Size 8 it is the only city above Moscow's 5. hut:nomads.
50- hut:barbs.
Explorer lost to barbs.
25- Ulundi builds Colossus. Carthags change to LH. Bribe barb for 82g to save Kharkhov.
1AD - hut:barbs. hut:knights.

Stats
Cities:25. Population:71. Gold:59. Techs:32. Cost:9. Democracy.
20 settlers, 1 phalanx, 16 archers, 14 legion, 7 horse, 3 chariot, 14 knights, 2 dips, 11 vans, 3 explorers(soon to be 2!)
Pyramids, HG, Colossus, MPE.

Russians: () Us -
Zulus: () Eliminated
Vikings: () Unco-op/Peace, 2 cities, 15 techs.
Aztecs: () Unco-op, 1 city, 15 techs.
Americans: () Cordial/Peace, 1 city, 12 techs.
Carthags: () Cordial/Peace, 6 cities, 12 techs.
Sioux: () Cordial/Peace, 3 cities, 16 techs.

This isn't going as well as I had hoped. It all seems to be slowing, and the map means moving takes a lot of time and trade is low value. Maybe I've misplayed this, or maybe I was too optimistic having not really thought the situation through. Whatever I don't think I can finish this quickly as I had hoped, as the Carthaginians are big and right in the way to delay progress further north. I'm going to put this game to one side for a while.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

I started playing last night and took a different approach.

I decided I want to do conquest. The major decision is when to start popping huts and when to build Moscow. One strategy is to delay the building of capital to collect an army of none units. The other is to build Moscow right away. I choose the latter because:
1. While None units are great, I do not think the shield support is worth delaying the building of the capital. Surely I would have to disband a few units away from home but I think overall it would be worthwhile.
2. With almost all cities on river, full conquest with hut units is unlikely.
3. With cities I have a chance of controlling my tech.

Thus I decided to build Moscow right away. Produce a warrior. Wait till I can produce/rush 10 shields. Pop the first hut and get an Archer. Disband the archer getting me to 25 shields (putting the settler a mere 5 turns away). Go hut hunting with the warrior. By this time I also get the first cheap tech researched. If I get lucky and get money from the second hut I may even get the second tech taken care of. A second size 1 settler may also be possible.

I put the above in to motion and all went according to plan till I started popping other huts. My hut luck was next to awful for quite some time. In fact, I got so few units that unit support was hardly a concern let alone having to disband units because you cannot support them. This also meant that I have popped far fewer huts than expected. After the first (mandatory) archer, I got 2 off path techs and 3 empty huts in a row before another archer appeared.

At -1000 my number of cities is right in between those of Inkerman and haleewud but my techs, units, and money is off by a factor of 5-10.

My only advantage is systematic placement of cities. Moscow is in its original position and my other cities are covering every single tile of fertile land. I am hoping that would help with respawns.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Date Notes

-4000 Moscow founded. Working Silk and walrus (for size 1 settler) building warrior.
-3950 -> Alphabet
-3800 Warrior produced.
-3750 Alphabet -> Code of Laws.
-3700 Archer on first attempt from hut. 8g spent on shields. Archer disbanded.
-3550 Horseback riding from polar hut.
-3450 Size 1 settler produced.
-3400 Warrior Code from hut. This is horrible. With no money I cannot afford a second size 1 settler. I should build the next city soon.
-3350 St. Petersburg founded.
-3200 Empty hut.
-3100 Moscow is size 2.
-3000 Empty hut again.

Status at -3000
Population: 0.04M; Cities: 2; Techs: 3; Government: Despotism
Gold: 2; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders:
Units: 1 Warrior
Goals: Monarchy, Trade
Notes: 5 huts: Archer, 2 off path techs, 2 empty
Zulu: no contact
French: no contact
Spanish: no contact
Chinese: no contact
Carthaginian: no contact
?: no contact

-2850 Code of Laws -> Ceremonial Burial.
-2800 Empty hut again! (3 in a row).
-2500 Kiev founded. Archer from hut.
-2350 Archer from hut.
-2200 Empty hut.
-2150 Mapmaking from hut.
-2100 One barb horseman from hut.
-2050 Barb horseman kills my archer. Have to delay the founding of Minsk due to the proximity of the wounded barb horseman.
-2000 Barb Horseman goes south on ice. Barb Legion from hut. Empty hut. This has been an awful streak of hut luck. Not a single hut giving me on path tech or money. Minsk founded despite two barbarian units each 3 turns away.

Status at -2000
Population: 0.04M; Cities: 4; Techs: 5; Government: Despotism
Gold: 1; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders:
Units: 1 settler, 1 Warrior, 1 Archer
Goals: Monarchy, Trade
Notes: 13 huts: 3 Archers, 3 off path techs, 5 empty, 2 barbarians
Zulu: no contact
French: no contact
Spanish: no contact
Chinese: no contact
Carthaginian: no contact
?: no contact

-1950 Legion kills my warrior.
-1900 Both barbarians move away from my undefended cities. Ceremonial Burial -> Monarchy.
-1800 Nomad from hut. First great outcome so far.
-1600 50g from hut.
-1450 Smolensk founded.
-1400 Masonry from hut.
-1250 Polytheism from hut.
-1200 Odessa founded.
-1050 Monarchy -> Bronze Working. Monarchy established. T3L0S7. Archer from hut.

Status at -1000
Population: 0.08M; Cities: 6; Techs: 9; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 55; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders:
Units: 5 settlers, 2 Archers
Goals: Trade, Marco, Hanging Gardens
Notes: 18 huts: 4 Archers, 5 off path techs, 5 empty, 2 barbarians, 1 nomad, 1x50g
Zulu: no contact
French: no contact
Spanish: no contact
Chinese: no contact
Carthaginian: no contact
?: no contact

 

[Ali Ardavan]

My situation was pretty bad with only 2 Archers in -1000. Hut hunting was slow not to mention the poor outcomes. It went from bad to worse when both tipped huts yielding barbarians. The one on ice was killed. The one on the mountain survived.

At this point I started producing more warriors for hut hunting despite the fact that all the huts close to my cities were already popped. But my hut luck changed as well and the next 5 huts yielded units. This gave me the critical mass I needed for the first time.
This was around -500. The stats clearly show the huge difference this made. Between -1000 and -500 only 12 huts were tipped. Between -500 and +1 (same number of turns) 48 huts were tipped.

Unfortunately Feudalism and Invention both arrived too quickly (in -475 and -175 respectively).

-0975 Barbarian legion from polar hut disappears the next turn.
-0925 Wheel from hut.
-0875 Barbarian legion from hut.
-0850 Archer on mountain survives barbarian legion and turns vet.
-0825 Sevastopol founded on Mountain close to Moscow to share its walrus and oasis as well as taking advantage of the gold nearby. Tblisi founded. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut.
-0800 Barbarians kill my archer.
-0775 Elephant from hut.
-0725 Bronze -> Currency.
-0700 Chariot from hut.
-0675 Chinese build Pyramids. Sverdlovsk founded.
-0625 Yakutsk founded. Legion from hut.
-0600 Legion from hut.
-0575 Horseman from hut.
-0550 Mysticism from hut.
-0525 Barbarian horseman appears near Yakutsk. Must have been from one of the huts. Fortunately my legion is right next to it and kills it. Vladivostok founded. Legion from hut. Currency from hut (first on path tech so far).
-0500 -> Trade

Status at -0500
Population: 0.26M; Cities: 11; Techs: 13; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 9; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders:
Units: 7 settlers (1 None), 5 Warriors, 1 Archer, 3 Legions, 1 Horseman, 1 Chariot, 2 Elephants
Goals: Trade, Marco, Hanging Gardens
Notes: 30 huts: 10 soldiers, 7 off path techs, 1 on path tech, 5 empty, 5 barbarians, 1 nomad, 1x50g
Zulu: no contact
French: no contact
Spanish: no contact
Chinese: no contact; Pyramids
Carthaginian: no contact
Sioux: no contact

-0475 Nomad from hut. Feudalism from hut (this is awful).
-0450 Trade from hut. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut. Pottery from hut. T7L0S3
-0425 Barbarians kill my horseman. -> Seafaring. Horseman from hut. Nomad builds Novgorod. Chivalry from hut. Chariot runs next to Ulundi. Polytheism, Mysticism -> Zulu (4) -> Writing, Math, peace, no maps, 200g.
-0400 Zulu build Colossus. Knight from hut. Krasnoyarsk founded.
-0375 Knight from hut. Nomad from hut.
-0350 25g, 50g, Knight from huts.
-0325 2xKnight, Construction, Astronomy from huts. Elephant kills barbarian horseman.
-0300 Seafaring from hut
-0275 Barbarian horseman kills my elephant. -> Iron Working. Moscow builds Hanging Gardens and celebrates. Engineering, Iron Working, Bridge Building from huts.
-0250 -> Literacy. First of several explorers produced. Knight kills barbarian horseman. Riga and Rostov founded. Navigation, Knight from hut.
-0225 25g, Legion from huts. 8 barbarian horseman from hut.
-0200 Barbarians kill my explorer. Knight kills barbarian horseman. 50g, Literacy, Legion from huts. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut.
-0175 Barbarians kill 2 explorers; only 1 remains. -> Philosophy. None Knight, Invention, 50g, Knight from huts. Barbarian horsemen killed. 8 barbarian legions from hut.
-0150 Barbarians kill a Knight. Barbarian horseman bribed for 41g and used to kill another barbarian horseman. Knight, 50g from hut.
-0125 2 barbarian horsemen killed. Astrakhan founded. Knight, Legion from huts. T3L0S7
-0100 Sioux build Lighthouse. Barbarian horseman killed in attack on my city. Marco built. Rivals do not have any tech I do not. Barbarian horseman bribed for 41g and used to kill another barbarian horseman. Kharkov built as the first city out of the narrow strip. 50g from hut. Tech bombed Sioux and got peace and their maps. They have been busy exploring the world.
Carthaginian (0) -> peace, maps, 250g
Chinese (5) -> peace, maps, 300g
Spanish (1) -> peace, maps, 450g
French (4) -> peace, maps, 300g
Zulu (3) -> peace, maps, 250g
-0075 Sioux acquire Philosophy from a hut. Barbarian legions attack my cities killing 2 pikemen. Invention -> Sioux -> Philosophy. Barbarian legion bribed for 82g. Lost a Knight attacking barbarian legion on mountain. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut. Nomad from hut. Barbarian horseman killed. 8 barbarian legion from hut. 50g from hut.
-0050 Barbarians kill a legion and my last explorer. The two wounded barbarian legions killed attacking my city this time. Barbarian horseman killed attacking my city. -> University. None legion from hut. Grozny founded as the last city on the narrow strip. 2xBarbarian legion bribed for 82g. Barbarian horseman bribed for 41g. 2xKnight from hut.
-0025 Barbarian horseman bribed for 41g. Barbarian legion bribed for 82g. 100g from hut.
+0001 Barbarian horseman killed.

Status at +1
Population: 0.7M; Cities: 18; Techs: 29; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 235; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders: Hanging Gardens, Marco
Units: 9 settlers (3 None), 6 Warriors, 1 Archer, 10 Legions, 3 Pikemen, 5 Horseman, 1 Chariot, 1 Elephants, 10 Knights, 4 Diplomats, 3 explorers, 6 vans
Footprint: Moscow, 1 in mountain SW of Moscow, 15 filling the narrow river bed, 1 in the wide river bed
Goals: Great Wall, Leo, Copernicus, King Richard, Sun Tzu
Notes: 78 huts: 27 soldiers, 21 techs, 5 empty, 11 barbarians, 4 nomads, 10 gold
Zulu: 5 cities, 17 techs; Colossus
French: 6 cities, 12 techs; war with Spanish
Spanish: 4 cities, 11 techs; war with French
Chinese: 6 cities, 19 techs; Pyramids; war with Carthaginians
Carthaginian: 2 cities, 8 techs; war with Chinese and Sioux
Sioux: 5 cities, 25 techs; Lighthouse; war with Carthaginians

 

[Inkerman]

Unfortunately Feudalism and Invention both arrived too quickly (in -475 and -175 respectively).
Status at +1
Population: 0.7M; Cities: 18; Techs: 29; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 235; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders: Hanging Gardens, Marco
Units: 9 settlers (3 None), 6 Warriors, 1 Archer, 10 Legions, 3 Pikemen, 5 Horseman, 1 Chariot, 1 Elephants, 10 Knights, 4 Diplomats, 3 explorers, 6 vans
Footprint: Moscow, 1 in mountain SW of Moscow, 15 filling the narrow river bed, 1 in the wide river bed

My stats at this point (reported already)
Population: 71 (1.6m) Cities:25. Techs:32. Government: Democracy.
Gold:59; Cost:9. 1 domestic trade route.
Wonders: Pyramids, HG, Colossus, MPE.
20 settlers, 1 phalanx, 16 archers, 14 legion, 7 horse, 3 chariot, 14 knights, 2 dips, 11 vans, 3 explorers(soon to be 2!)
Footprint: All cities in the valley: 1 in the wider space at the start, 6 in the narrow part and 18 in the wider valley as far north as (25,67) - up against a strong Carthag group of cities on the river. A few troops have reached the north of the map.

So this comparison looks good for my explore-first settle-later approach, although hut luck has played a part.

I have resumed the game (and have not yet finished.) I thought at this point I want the help of Sun Tzu and Leonardo. Progress may seem a bit slow whilst that is organized. Log to follow shortly....

 

[haleewud]

-975 1 Knight dies attacking Orleans, wait for reinforcements, find Babylon at 68,182 (still chasing Babylonian settler in mountains(?)), RB Kiev 1sh+10sh(27), Huts -> Chemistry and Legion(Kiev)
-950 Huts -> Economics and Legion(NON)
-925 Moscow and Ulundi build settlers, Kill Legion in Orleans, Capture Orleans (35), French destroyed, Huts -> Engineering, Sanitation, 8 Barb Legion and Legion(?)
-900 Legion dies to Barb Legion, Hut -> Invention (no more tech from huts)
-875 Kiev builds Settler, Huts -> 50g and 25g
-850 RB Moscow 11sh+10sh(53) and Minsk 2sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(79), Huts -> 25g, 8 Barb Horse (I kill 1) and 100g
-825 2 Legions die to Barb Horse, Minsk builds Food van, Kill Phalanx in Babylon (Babylonians destroyed), Hut -> 100g
-800 RB Ulundi 5sh(11) and Minsk 16sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(119), Huts -> 50g and 50g
-775 Barb uprising near Ulundi (1 horse and 1 leader), Minsk builds Food van, Moscow builds settler, RB Ulundi 6sh+10sh(38), Hut -> 100g
-750 Ulundi builds Catapult and kills Barb Legion, then disband the catapult, RB Ulundi 10sh, Minsk 16sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(119) and Moscow 18sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(127), Kill Phalanx and Archer in Madrid, destroy Madrid (15), Hut -> 50g
-725 Minsk and Moscow build Food vans, 4 Food vans to Moscow, Kill phalanx in Seville, capture Seville(46), Spanish destroyed
-700 Moscow builds MPE (see below), RB Seville 16sh+25sh(69), Hut -> 50g
Green - Eliminated
(2)Germans - 9 tech, 1 city, give them 4 techs to exchange maps
(1)Egyptians - 9 tech, 1 city, give them 8 techs to give them Map Making and exchange maps
(3)Chinese - 8 tech 4 cities, give 4 techs to exchange maps, get all 300 gold they have in Tribute
(4)Carthaginians - 10 tech, 5 cities, give 4 techs to exchange maps, get 200 of 420 gold in Tribute
(5)Siouz - 9 tech, 6 cities, give 4 techs to exchange maps, get 250 in Tribute
-675 Seville builds Diplomat and Ulundi builds Settler, RB Moscow 18sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(127) and Minsk 12sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(106), Huts -> 100g and 50g
-650 Minsk and Moscow build Food vans, RB Seville 16sh+10sh(69)
-625 Seville build Diplomat, Smolensk founded, Subvert Xinjian 2x127 (2), RB Minsk 16sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(119) and Moscow 18sh+10sh+10sh+10sh(127), Hut -> 100
-600 Minsk and Moscow build Food vans, Odessa founded, Kill phalanx and archer in Beijing, destroy Beijing (3), Huts -> 50g and 50g
-575 Kill phalanx in Thebes (Egyptians destroyed), give 10 tech to Aztecs (10th was MM) and exchange maps, 419g spent on RBs, Huts -> 8 Barb Legion, Nomads and Legion(Orleans)
-550 Odessa, Xinjian and Seville build Diplomats, Moscow builds Food van, 5 food vans and 50sh(200) to Moscow
-525 Moscow builds Sun Tzu, Orleans builds settler, Bribe Chinese warrior (21g), Bribe Shanghai 108 (8+phalanx), RB Seville 16sh+10sh(69(, Hut -> Legion(NON)
-500 Seville builds Diplomat, Sevastopol founded, Bribe Canton 159(14+phalanx+barracks), Chinese destroyed, RB Minsk 10sh+10sh+10sh(75) and Xinjian 15sh+10sh

stats at -500:
pop.: .34M; cities: 12, techs: 41, gov: Monarchy, gold: 956; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn: 1
units: 6 Settler, 2 Warriors, 2 Phalanx, 6 Archers, 21 Legion, 3 Pikemen, 2 Horsemen, 3 Chariot, 2 Elephants, 9 Knights, 3 Diplomats
wonders: Sun Tzu, MPE
Footprint: My lead unit is at 28, 62. Just entering Carthagian lands. I can see the entire length of the river and know where I need to head (for the most part).

Zulus: destroyed by Me
Babylonians: destroyed by Me
French: destroyed by Me
Germans: 1 City, 13 Tech, 31 Gold
Spanish: destroyed by Me
Egyptians: destroyed by Me
Aztecs: 1 City, 24 Tech, 2 Gold
Chinese: destroyed by Me
Americans: 0 Cities, 17 Tech, 0 Gold
Carthaginian: 6 Cities, 17 Tech, 311 Gold
Sioux: 6 Cities, 15 Tech, 168 Gold

During the 20 turns above, 28 huts were popped, 6 units (1 Nomads), 5 Tech, 14 gold and 3 Barbs
So the total now stands at 157 huts; 64 units (3 nomads), 40 tech and 40 gold, 12 Barbs and 1 Advanced Tribe.

 

[Inkerman]

AD20- (explorer lost) Emissary Aztecs - peace, give literacy and trade - swap maps.
Found Dnepropetrovsk. Hut:50g. Give Writing and Trade to Sioux.
40- Found Maikop.
60- Van, Novgorod-Krasnoyarsk, Beads, for 48g.
Aztecs and Carthags go to war with each other.
80- Discover Monotheism -> Gunpowder.
Found Kursk.
Carthags develop CoL.
100- Found Kuibyshev, Magnitogorsk.

120- hut:crusaders.
Van, Ulundi-Seville, Hides, for 110g. Find Viking city of Kaupang in an off-valley oasis.
Sneak attack by Vikings - caravan lost.
140- Hut:40g.
Carthage builds LH.
160-
180- Found Uralsk, a city north of the Carthags. hut:nomads.
200- Yakutsk builds Michaelangelo Chapel.
C- looking to 300 for govt change, maybe grow a few people beforehand.

Vikings and Americans trade techs.
220-
Aztecs invite us to fight Carthags, offering 100g. We say no.
240- Found Kazan, Vologda.
260- Discover Gunpowder -> Leadership.
Van, Moscow-Carthage(Carthags), Copper, for 270g.
Van, Yakutsk-Canton, Silver, for 132g.
Found Murmansk.
Vikings plunder Astrakhan, taking Gunpowder. Letting this go was careless of someone.
280- Van, Seville-Paris, Silk, for 90g.
300- Stay as democracy until got some more wonders.

320- Discover Leadership -> Theology
340- We get Carthags to withdraw from Uralsk.
360- Found Vitebsk.
380- Found Batum.
Van, Orleans-Moscow, Dye, for 80g.
400- Paris completes Leonardo's Workshop - many upgrades.
Get Aztecs to withdraw from Uralsk.
Van, Smolensk-Vladivostok, Silk, for 63g.

420- Rostov completes Sun Tzu War Academy.
Paris builds Statue of Liberty.
Van, Rostov-Minsk, Gems, for 135g.
440- Discover Theology -> Medicine.
Barb leader 100g.
Carthags withdraw.
Revolution!
460- Fundy - tax to 60%, lux to 40%.
Attack Vikings. Bribe Kaupang for 252g.
Attack Carthags.
Attack Sioux.
hut:musketeers. hut:musketeers.
480- Ulundi builds JSBach Cathedral.
Attack Aztecs.
Two dips expended on Nanking - did not get walls.
500- Capture Carthag Nanking, with walls.
Barb leader 100g.
Found Tiflis.
hut:50g.

Rather lost concentration a bit here - I am strong enough but there is a hard-to-reach outlying Sioux city that may prove hard, and other force is not necessarily best placed. Still we'll see if we have enough.

Stats
Cities:38. Population:186. Gold:1890. Techs:36. Cost:28. Fundamentalism.
20 settlers, 35 musketeers, 3 crusaders, 27 dragoons, 2 dips, 12 vans, 2 explorers.
Pyramids, HG, Colossus,
MPE, Mike's, SunTzu,
Leo, JSBach, SoL.

Russians: () Us -
Vikings: () Unco-op/War, 2 cities, 18 techs incl gunpowder
Aztecs: () Unco-op/War, 1 city, 19 techs.
Americans: () Neutral/Peace, 1 city, 14 techs.
Carthags: () Unco-op/War, 5 cities, 14 techs.
Sioux: () Unco-op/War, 3 cities, 18 techs.

 

[Inkerman]

520- Bribe Viking Astrakhan (it used to be ours) for 90g.
Barbs land from one square sea adjacent to Maikop.
540- hut:nomads. Capture Carthag Panormus. Raze Carthag Caralis.
Barbs destroy van in Maikop.
560-
580- hut:nomads. hut:50g. Bribe awkwardly placed Aztec phalanx for 161g.
Capture Sioux Wounded Knee.
600- Van, Ulundi-Sevastopol, Wool, for 104g.
Found Bryansk.

620- Capture Tenochtitlan, eliminating the Aztecs. Egyptians appear.
Capture Trondheim destroying Vikings, no re-spawn.
Capture Malaca from Carthags, with some dragoon casualties from the walls.
Found Tula, Kalinin.
Give 5 techs to Egyptians - they are in wilderness.
640- Paris builds Great Wall. Sell three x city walls.
hut:nomads. hut:barbs. hut:barbs.
Dragoon holds off 8 x barb legion. Musketeer holds off 8 x barb horse.
660- Ulundi builds Copernicus Observatory.
Capture Sioux Cedar Creek. Luckily 2 dragoons were enough - it would have taken some time to get more units there.
Attack Americans.
Found Yaroslavl, Krasnovoasis.
680- Only 2 dips needed to take out Utica's Walls.
Capture Carthag Utica.
700- Capture Little Bighorn, destroying Sioux, Indians appear.
Raze Washington, destroying Ams. Persians appear.
One city Carthags, plus three non-city civs now.
Van, Ulundi-Murmansk, Gems, for 174g.
Van, Grozny-Vladivostok, Wool , for 42g.
Found Smyrna.
Give Nav and Con to Egyptians to update map.
Give techs to Indians (2 settlers) and Persians to get maps.
Eyptians and Indians are very close together, north of Kaupang.
Persians are between Kazan and Astrakhan. All are in wilderness - on glacier not mountains.

720- Capture Carthage incl LH, eliminating Carthags. Greeks appear.
Give techs, swap maps, they are near valley in south part of map, but in mountains.
Found Tigris.

Comment: so chasing re-spawns on a large, difficult-to-move map. Need a drink - vodka?
May as well become a democracy again whilst things move on.
Revolution, and adjust cities so no disorder.

740- Become democracy, set lux to 40% whilst we work things out.
760- Found Asquana, Kayak.
780- Discover Medicine -> University.
Give three techs to Indians, swap maps.
Greeks are in a settleable valley square but penned in by our cavalry.
800-

820- Discover University -> Sanitation
Bribe Greek settler for 164g. Found Cannae.
Give various techs swap maps.
Indians settlers at (55,145), (59,143).
Egyptian settler at (55,155).
Persian at (2,208).
Greek at (39,209).
840- hut:nomads.
860- Find Vodka.
880- Discover Sanitation -> ToG.
Van, Smolensk-Novgorod, Wool, for 72g.
900-

920- Bribe Greek settlers for 164g - they have a phalanx left.
Found Lonesome Star.
Greeks destroyed by barbs.
940- Discover ToG -> Chemistry
The English have appeared - give tech, peace, give techs, get map - they are near where Greeks were.
hut:50g.
960- Ulundi builds Isaac Newton's College.
Van, Dnepropetrovsk-Kursk, Silver, for 102g.
980- Discover Chemistry -> Explosives.
Found Genoa, Aspartame.
Van, Paris-Seville, Gems, for 147g.
1000- Van, Orleans-Ulundi, Gold, for 267g.

Stats
Cities:61. Population:414. Gold:3024. Techs:41. Cost:105. Democracy.
50 settlers, 37 musketeers, 40 dragoons, 21 dips, 36 vans, 10 explorers.
Pyramids, HG, Colossus, LH, GW.
MPE, Mike's, SunTzu, Copernicus.
Leo, JSBach, SoL, Newton.
AI: 4 civs, but none have cities.

 

[Major Advantage]

I think I have pretty much messed up this game...
The initial plan was to go for huts wihtout a city so I would avoid barbs, thereby receiving a huge army, lots of gold and many (hopefully useful) techs. It turns out, Ali's anticipation

2. With almost all cities on river, full conquest with hut units is unlikely.

was fully right. Even vet ellies were not powerful enough to win against phalanxes. So eventually we had one city (conquered Ulundi), skyrocketing tech costs, a huge but weak army and german respawns in our starting location (plan was to let the settler circle the south pole once while popping huts and then found a city at the starting location).
I know somebody would tell me about "the joy of turning a game around", but at the moment I don't think I really want to. I finished #151 instead.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

I think I have pretty much messed up this game... So eventually we had one city (conquered Ulundi), skyrocketing tech costs, a huge but weak army and german respawns in our starting location...
I know somebody would tell me about "the joy of turning a game around", but at the moment I don't think I really want to. I finished #151 instead.

Well none of us have finished yet, so your situation may not be as bleak as you think it is. But with 152 around the corner (it will be posted by Monday morning) there is more than enough to keep you busy playing civ.

I have just started the conquest phase of my game and Zulu are my first target simply because of their proximity. They are down to 1-2 cities. This happened just in time as they are researching gunpowder and my best unit is a vet knight which does not have a good chance against a musketeer fortified on river. I built the Great Wall to keep it away from my rivals and have created an abundant number of diplomats to take city walls down. Sioux are researching gunpowder too and they will in all likelihood have it by the time I reach them. By then I should have enough cities to overwhelm them with numbers. With trade having low returns I have little hope of out teching my opponents.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

+0020 Moscow builds Temple (first structure). 25g, Knight, 2xLegion from huts.
+0040 Barbarian horseman dies in attack on my city.
+0060 French build Great Library. Knight, Legion from hut. Invention -> Zulu -> University.
+0080 Barbarian legions kill 2 Knights in Rostov. -> Medicine. 1 barbarian legion killed; another bribed for 82g. French, Spanish -> 50g, Chinese -> 25g, Sioux -> 275g, Zulu -> 0g. 8 barbarian legions from hut. 50g from hut. Nomad founds Kish at 23, 199 (mountain valley).
+0100 Barbarians kill 2 legions. Moscow builds Library. 50g, 25g, Knight from hut. Barbarian legion bribed for 82g. Nomad from hut. 8 barbarian legions from hut. Lost a vet horse before managing to kill a barbarian legion.
+0120 Barbarians kill my warrior. Barbarian legion bribed for 82g. Legion from hut. Sioux -> 175g, French -> 50g, Zulu -> 0g
+0140 Medicine -> Chemistry. Zulu -> 175g. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut. 50g from hut.
+0160 Barbarians kill my legion. 25g, 2x50g from hut.
+0180 Knight, 50g from hut.
+0200 Great Wall built. Barbarian horseman killed. 2x50g, 25g from hut. Sioux, Zulu -> 125g; Chinese, Spanish, French -> 50g.
+0240 100g from hut. Barbarian legion bribed for 82g. 8 barbarian legions from hut. Barbarian horseman killed. 50g from hut.
+0260 Knight survives barbarian legions. 50 from hut. Zulu -> 75g. Barbarian legion bribed for 82g.
+0280 Legion survives barbarian legion. 100g, 50g, legion from huts. Sioux, French -> 150g, Spanish -> 100g. Zulu finally get tired of my demands and declare war. I have been waiting for this.
+0300 2 Zulu units killed attacking me. Nomad builds Kharg at 47, 167 (mountain river valley). 2 Zulu units killed. 50g from hut.
+0320 Leo built. Sioux switch to King Richards; others abandon. Ulundi attacked with 6 Knights. Lost 3 before killing 2 defenders and capturing the city for Colossus, barracks, and 28g. Accepted Zulu offer of 100g for cease fire. Need time to attack Zimbabwe anyway. Chinese, Carthaginian -> 100g.
+0340 50g, nomad from huts.
+0380 Kursk founded. Silk to Zimbabwe for 27 establishes the first trade route. 2x50g from huts. Spanish, French, Sioux -> 50g.
+0400 Moscow builds Copernicus. Barbarian horseman and legion killed. 8 barbarian legions from hut. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut. 25g, 50g from huts.
+0420 Barbarians kill an explorer and a legion. Chemistry -> Monotheism.
+0440 Accepted Zulu offer of 50g for peace. Now they have no gold left. French -> 50g.
+0460 Copper to Zulu for 30. 50g from hut.
+0480 Zulu sneak attack and kill a knight. 50 from hut. Sioux -> 50g. 1 Zulu units killed. 3 Diplomats spent before Zimbabwe city walls are destroyed. 1 Knight lost to capture Zimbabwe for 2g. Bapedi bribed for 106g. Got 1g, Phalanx, and barracks.
+0500 50g from hut. 8 barbarian horsemen from hut. Spanish -> 100g.

Status at +500
Population: 1.8M; Cities: 24; Techs: 32; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 152; Cost: 18; Trade routes: 2D1F;
Wonders: Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Great Wall, Marco, Copernicus, Leo
Units: 10 settlers (3 None), 1 Phalanx, 1 Archer, 16 Legions, 9 Pikemen, 2 Elephants, 11 Knights, 4 Diplomats, 3 explorers, 18 vans
Footprint: Moscow, 1 in mountain SW of Moscow, 15 filling the narrow river bed, 5 in the wide river bed, 2 in mountain valleys.
Goals: Shakespeare in Moscow (next turn), King Richard, Sun Tzu, Michelangelo, explosives, conquest of Zulu
Zulu: 2 cities, 23 techs; war with me
French: 8 cities, 18 techs; Great Library; war with Spanish
Spanish: 5 cities, 13 techs; war with French
Chinese: 7 cities, 19 techs; Pyramids; war with Carthaginians
Carthaginian: 3 cities, 9 techs; war with Chinese and Sioux
Sioux: 6 cities, 25 techs; Lighthouse; war with Carthaginians

 

[haleewud]

Well none of us have finished yet, so your situation may not be as bleak as you think it is. But with 152 around the corner (it will be posted by Monday morning) there is more than enough to keep you busy playing civ.

Actually, I finished this game during the first week of January. It only took me a couple of days for this one. I have also finished GOTM 151. That one also only took a few days. I am anxiously awaiting GOTM 152.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Obviously I judge by log entries here and your last one ends in -500 and at that time your game is far from over.

Next game will be a normal game on a game generated map.

 

[Major Advantage]

I started a replay of the entire game (not submittable of course), this time as OCC. Things went pretty smoothly, the long distance to the AI made trade difficult, however prevented the AI from being hostile. Furthermore, the limited space prevented the AI from growing, thus being no competition in the space race. I just launched a 25-6-6-2-2-2-ship in 1900.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Interesting. Did you build a city right away or pop huts for a while first?