In my last spoiler I explained how I pursued a specific strategy in the early game. I wanted to get a cultural victory. And I wanted to use the Oracle, Great Prophets, and carefully tailoring my early research so that I could get Code of Laws, Civil Service, and Philosophy mostly for free. This worked pretty much as I had hoped, and in 545 AD I developed Philosophy.
Finally Some Tech Trading
War and Wonders
What to Do?
Crawling to the Finish Line
Analysis
Finally Some Tech Trading
Spoiler :
Now that I had Philosophy in hand, I could finally stop avoiding Alphabet. I researched that next, while working on building up my military a bit and getting some more Settlers out. I needed another 3 cities if I wanted to build maximum Cathedrals in all my cultural cities.
I acquired Alphabet in 635 AD and traded for the following over the course of a few turns: Archery, Masonry, Mathematics, Monotheism, Calendar, Currency, Metal Casting, Theology. My next target tech was Music, for Cathedrals and the free Great Artist if I made it there first. I could see that Hatty already had Literature so I decided to take the longer route to Music, through Drama, so Id get better trade material. As it turned out, by the time I developed Drama in 770 AD, she had beaten me to Music already. I guess that was the price I paid for prioritizing Civil Service and Philosophy. With the free Great Artist out of reach, and with my cities not really ready to start building Cathedrals, I decided to research Literature quickly and then go for Education and Liberalism.
Getting to Education, let alone Liberalism, was going to take a good long while. The grasslands around Athens were pretty well cottaged, but most of my other cities were production oriented. They were getting more workshops than cottages. I had a lot of missionaries and temples to build! Thermopylae was using its huge food surplus to let me whip infrastructure buildings out pretty fast, as I prepared it to become a Great Artist pump.
I acquired Alphabet in 635 AD and traded for the following over the course of a few turns: Archery, Masonry, Mathematics, Monotheism, Calendar, Currency, Metal Casting, Theology. My next target tech was Music, for Cathedrals and the free Great Artist if I made it there first. I could see that Hatty already had Literature so I decided to take the longer route to Music, through Drama, so Id get better trade material. As it turned out, by the time I developed Drama in 770 AD, she had beaten me to Music already. I guess that was the price I paid for prioritizing Civil Service and Philosophy. With the free Great Artist out of reach, and with my cities not really ready to start building Cathedrals, I decided to research Literature quickly and then go for Education and Liberalism.
Getting to Education, let alone Liberalism, was going to take a good long while. The grasslands around Athens were pretty well cottaged, but most of my other cities were production oriented. They were getting more workshops than cottages. I had a lot of missionaries and temples to build! Thermopylae was using its huge food surplus to let me whip infrastructure buildings out pretty fast, as I prepared it to become a Great Artist pump.
War and Wonders
Spoiler :
I built my seventh city, Knossos, on a small grassland island with Iron pretty far southeast of the home island in 860 AD. Just a couple of turns later, Cyrus sailed a Galley over to it and declared war. He was far ahead of me on the military track and I was worried that even a small force could capture a city from me and set me way back. So I went all out in my response. I traded several techs to Isabella to get her to declare war on Cyrus. And I traded Civil Service to Caesar for Machinery, allowing me to build Macemen. For the next dozen or so turns I devoted my economy and a lot of my city builds to producing and upgrading units. In the end, Cyrus made peace with me in 1160 AD without my ever seeing another Persian unit. I had to give him a hefty per turn gold bribe (20? 30? something like that anyway) to be nice, slowing research again.
Although I had no way of knowing it, this would be the only war I fought all game. I continued to devote a city or two to military production for many years, until I could see that no amount of additional Macemen would do me any good against the by then Infantry-equipped AIs. I was also pretty cowardly from here on out, giving in to almost every demand I received. Id long since forgone running a religion.
Prior to the war breaking out, Id started construction of the Sistine Chapel in Athens, and Angkor Wat in Corinth. The later was purely to get a high culture building, I barely used the special ability. I was able to keep them going during the war and they were finished in 1196 AD (Angkor) and 1322 AD (Sistine). These were the last World Wonders I built.
Although I had no way of knowing it, this would be the only war I fought all game. I continued to devote a city or two to military production for many years, until I could see that no amount of additional Macemen would do me any good against the by then Infantry-equipped AIs. I was also pretty cowardly from here on out, giving in to almost every demand I received. Id long since forgone running a religion.
Prior to the war breaking out, Id started construction of the Sistine Chapel in Athens, and Angkor Wat in Corinth. The later was purely to get a high culture building, I barely used the special ability. I was able to keep them going during the war and they were finished in 1196 AD (Angkor) and 1322 AD (Sistine). These were the last World Wonders I built.
What to Do?
Spoiler :
I finished my National Epic in Thermopylae in 1328 AD. With some artist specialists it was running about even with Athens in GPP production at that point. I started work on the Globe Theatre there soon after, as I needed the ability to run a lot of Artists for great people, but couldnt afford to switch to Civil Service because Slavery was paying for a lot of my culture buildings. Especially in Thermopylae itself, where hammers were almost non-existent but food was everywhere.
While all this was going on, I continued to spread religions around, build temples, and get an eighth city up and running. My economy was not strong, even with the Kong Miao and the Dai Miao (built in 1190 AD with my fourth Great Prophet) I was running something like 60% science. I was first to Education in 1340 AD, after 50 turns of research. And I refused to trade it away. But to no avail, Caesar beat me to Liberalism by about 4 turns. I developed that tech in 1442 AD.
By this point it was clear to me that my game was not going well. Not only had I been beaten to Liberalism, but I had very few Cathedrals built in my main culture cities, and many more temples needed construction throughout my empire. For awhile I considered continuing research all the way to Universal Suffrage so I could buy the buildings I needed. But it would take me something along the lines of 100 turns, which was a non-starter. Reluctantly, I decided my only option was to go all culture (about 70% culture 30% treasury at that stage) and just continue my slow pace of culture building construction, aided by pop rushing. And to try and generate as many Great Artists as possible.
While all this was going on, I continued to spread religions around, build temples, and get an eighth city up and running. My economy was not strong, even with the Kong Miao and the Dai Miao (built in 1190 AD with my fourth Great Prophet) I was running something like 60% science. I was first to Education in 1340 AD, after 50 turns of research. And I refused to trade it away. But to no avail, Caesar beat me to Liberalism by about 4 turns. I developed that tech in 1442 AD.
By this point it was clear to me that my game was not going well. Not only had I been beaten to Liberalism, but I had very few Cathedrals built in my main culture cities, and many more temples needed construction throughout my empire. For awhile I considered continuing research all the way to Universal Suffrage so I could buy the buildings I needed. But it would take me something along the lines of 100 turns, which was a non-starter. Reluctantly, I decided my only option was to go all culture (about 70% culture 30% treasury at that stage) and just continue my slow pace of culture building construction, aided by pop rushing. And to try and generate as many Great Artists as possible.
Crawling to the Finish Line
Spoiler :
As anticipated, this was a long process. There was much ferrying of missionaries from one side of the empire to another. One of my outlying cities had acquired Christianity and my ninth city, flipped from the Romans at the north end of Pig Iron island, had Islam. So there were four religions available to me and I eventually spread them everywhere and had four Cathedrals in each culture city. Thermopylae finished the Globe Theatre and did a good job of pumping out Great Artists from there on out, but I did end up with an unwanted Great Scientist (not sure how) and Great Prophet (from Athens) both of which settled in Thermopylae.
I had three sources of Iron (one popped at random near Corinth), and traded them for cash and for strategic resources that speeded construction of Cathedrals. As my outlying cities finally began to finish with their missionary and temple builds, I converted their mines and workshops to cottages and devoted them to wealth production. Id long since given up on building military, as the AIs were fielding Infantry and Destroyers to my Macemen and Galleys. Fortunately they left me alone.
My last Cathedral was finally finished in Thermopylae in 1862. Itd taken me so long to complete all of these culture buildings that Id managed to research Nationalism based solely on the beakers from my specialists, and the Hermitage was constructed in Corinth in 1869. Athens was well ahead of these cities in culture, it went Legendary in 1881. I eventually dropped 3 Great Works each in Corinth and Thermopylae, sending them over the top in 1897 and 1900 AD.
I had three sources of Iron (one popped at random near Corinth), and traded them for cash and for strategic resources that speeded construction of Cathedrals. As my outlying cities finally began to finish with their missionary and temple builds, I converted their mines and workshops to cottages and devoted them to wealth production. Id long since given up on building military, as the AIs were fielding Infantry and Destroyers to my Macemen and Galleys. Fortunately they left me alone.
My last Cathedral was finally finished in Thermopylae in 1862. Itd taken me so long to complete all of these culture buildings that Id managed to research Nationalism based solely on the beakers from my specialists, and the Hermitage was constructed in Corinth in 1869. Athens was well ahead of these cities in culture, it went Legendary in 1881. I eventually dropped 3 Great Works each in Corinth and Thermopylae, sending them over the top in 1897 and 1900 AD.
Analysis
Spoiler :
With a finish time of 1900 AD its no surprise that my score was a measly 1499/6457.
It took me way too long to get my Cathedrals in place. As a result, even with my culture production as close to 100% as I could get it after discovering Liberalism, it took me over 200 turns to achieve victory.
I also did not get as many Great Artists as I would have liked, only 7 total. This is clearly linked in part to my decision to pursue Great Prophets early on. In hindsight I also think it was a mistake to have a city that was supposed to produce Great Artists and also build Cathedrals and other culture buildings. If Thermopylae had been able to concentrate solely on making Artists and some other city took its place as a cultural center, I think I would have done better.
All in all, Im chalking up my early game strategy as having mixed success at best. I accomplished what I set out to do, but the results werent all that impressive. I think expanding more early on would have benefited me more than getting the Oracle early did. And getting to Music first probably would have been more useful than getting to Philosophy was.
If I were to attempt something like this again I think I wouldnt worry about getting the Oracle quite so early. It would be better to delay building the Oracle a bit, research Code of Laws on your own, and use the Oracle for the true Civil Service slingshot. And then when you get your first Great Prophet not long after, you can get Philosophy. Or just get Code of Laws with the Oracle, Civil Service with the Great Prophet, and forget about Philosophy.
It took me way too long to get my Cathedrals in place. As a result, even with my culture production as close to 100% as I could get it after discovering Liberalism, it took me over 200 turns to achieve victory.
I also did not get as many Great Artists as I would have liked, only 7 total. This is clearly linked in part to my decision to pursue Great Prophets early on. In hindsight I also think it was a mistake to have a city that was supposed to produce Great Artists and also build Cathedrals and other culture buildings. If Thermopylae had been able to concentrate solely on making Artists and some other city took its place as a cultural center, I think I would have done better.
All in all, Im chalking up my early game strategy as having mixed success at best. I accomplished what I set out to do, but the results werent all that impressive. I think expanding more early on would have benefited me more than getting the Oracle early did. And getting to Music first probably would have been more useful than getting to Philosophy was.
If I were to attempt something like this again I think I wouldnt worry about getting the Oracle quite so early. It would be better to delay building the Oracle a bit, research Code of Laws on your own, and use the Oracle for the true Civil Service slingshot. And then when you get your first Great Prophet not long after, you can get Philosophy. Or just get Code of Laws with the Oracle, Civil Service with the Great Prophet, and forget about Philosophy.