GOTM 43 Results and Congratulations

[AlanH]

I was wondering, what does Incomplete-Retired mean? That was the case for my game, but I clicked on the turn-before-defeat button because I had no victory condition. Should I have not selected that option?

An incomplete submission must be either a retirement, not played to a conclusion, or a conquest defeat, where you can't submit a finished save.

See this thread for the details of the recently-announced Retirement option.

There's no difference in scoring for the two cases, but retirements are not eligible for the ambulances awarded for highest and lowest scoring defeats. If you tell the submission system you were defeated it will believe you, but we'll hand-check the ambulance-winners.

 

[SpiffyKeen7744]

Wow! I just looked again at the GOTM Submission page and I see the three options. I do not remember seeing that when I submitted the Japan game. There was only a check box for defeat. Since it is a recent addition, my computer at home must have the submission script cached and I used the old one, or something weird like that.

I do not care so much about score bonus or not. I would probably have been conquered , or reduced to a few cities quickly with the Persians, Chinese, Ottomans, Russians, English, and Carthage against me. Only the backward Korea was on my side. I was just concerned that I missed the correct submission choice, which I did. I was not close to any award, so that's fine. Also, an incomplete game, as was pointed out, can be turned into a conquest lost in one turn with the disband feature for units and cities.

Thanks for the info. It is good to know that it was just my mistake.

 

[AlanH]

I do not remember seeing that when I submitted the Japan game. There was only a check box for defeat. Since it is a recent addition, my computer at home must have the submission script cached and I used the old one, or something weird like that.

Aggressive caching! The retirement option was added recently, but the other two were there in a pop-up ever since I implemented the current submission system, since forever (well, around a year as far as I recall). I don't remember it being a checkbox, though it may have been, in the distant past. But your submission shouldn't have worked with a cached page as old as that.

I was just concerned that I missed the correct submission choice, which I did. I was not close to any award, so that's fine.

That's no problem. We have technology. I've corrected it

 

[Paul#42]

I just replayed my final turns to find out what my winning score would be like.

My game had ended with a spaceship loss just when I excessed domination limit by 10 tiles in 1715. I reckon that Persia launched its shuttle in the interturn and won marginally but correctly.

This time I took autosave from 1705, settled more aggressive, built more settler for every single tile I could claim.

In 1710 CivAssist II told me I had 1755 domination tiles which is 9 over domination limit of 1746. Still the game went on . In 1715 I had 1772 tiles, 26 over limit and I had just disgraced my people by the Persians settling on Alpha Centauri.

Why did I not get the victory in 1710?

 

[namliaM]

Domination is Population+teritory I am 90% sure you need 66% of the world pop as well, sounds like you did not reach that?

 

[Paul#42]

Domination is Population+teritory I am 90% sure you need 66% of the world pop as well, sounds like you did not reach that?

Ouch. Maybe you are right. I was so used to having the bigger population in my games that I did not even check this...

Thanks.

The defense department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid.

 

[ainwood]

Why did I not get the victory in 1710?

As said above, its probably population. I have added the population proportion to civassist - it will be in the next release.

 

[Gyathaar]

As said above, its probably population. I have added the population proportion to civassist - it will be in the next release.

This could potentially give out info that you cant get in game.. in vanilla/ptw there is no way of knowing your exact population percentage for sure if some cities are still hidden in the fog

 

[AlanH]

CivAssist can take that into account and only give you percentage of visible pop.

 

[Megalou]

One of the less glamorous arts of civ is to position your workers near your small towns in order to join them into those towns as soon as you consider yourself to be over the domination limit.

 

[ainwood]

This could potentially give out info that you cant get in game.. in vanilla/ptw there is no way of knowing your exact population percentage for sure if some cities are still hidden in the fog

That's how it works - percentage of visible population.

 

[Paul#42]

One of the less glamorous arts of civ is to position your workers near your small towns in order to join them into those towns as soon as you consider yourself to be over the domination limit.

I tested it yesterday and I was missing population limit by far. Even if I had joined all my workers I would not have taken on those Persian metros...

Now that calmed me down a little...