GOTM 67 - first spoiler (end of ancient age)

[ainwood]

GOTM 67 First Spoiler

Reading Requirements:

1. You must have completed the ancient age (be able to research a middle-age tech.
2. You must have a full view of the starting continent.

Posting Restrictions

1. Please do not post screenshots showing middle age (and later) resources.
2. Please no discussions of the middle ages (or later).
3. Do not discuss any landmass that can not be reached by travelling on coast only. Do not post any screenshots of suicide galley runs - successful or not.

 

[Taxpayer'sMoney]

Predator, no specified VC.

Settled 1S on hill. Built granary-settler-settler. Researched pottery-writing-map-making-literature. Built three cities, pumped out six legionaries then declared on Germany. I took Berlin and autorazed a couple of towns before getting peace and a couple of techs. Built the Great Lighthouse, but have had no luck finding the other civs. China declared on me, and despite them being strong to me my legionaries easily repelled their riders and I was even able to go on the attack.

Not sure what to do next. I am sending many galleys to their deaths in search of the other civs but getting nowhere. A military VC looks the most likely but it will be tediously slow. Hmph.

 

[klarius]

Predator, going for space.

Settled 2 SE. Build order warrior-barracks-archers. Research writing @ min. Worker mines and roads wheat and ivory then makes military road.

Met Germans in 3350. The nearest decent city spot is Berlin, so no use building settlers. Rome just grows to 3 for 3-turn archers.

2900 contact China

2550 war with Germany taking a worker and killing an archer

2310 warrior scout succeeds taking a Chinese settler pair, so we are at war with China also

2230 Berlin captured. Make peace immediately and get Hamburg. Rome is now building worker and settler to get abandoned.

1830 settle Veii

1750 Rome abandoned - palace jumps to Berlin. Peace with China for Tsingtao.

1625 War with China for another settler pair

1500 gift Tsingtao to Germany

1475 war with Germany and capture Leipzig

1425 peace with China

1350 peace with Germany

1200 settle Antium, another war with China

1125 raze Nanking

1025 peace with China

5 towns with 14 pop at 1000BC,
2 barracks, 1 granary, 1 library,
4 workers, 7 slaves, 4 archers, 1 warrior, 1 chariot

900 war with China again

875 settle Cumae

750 settle Neapolis

730 finally the leader fishing against China pays of

690 Trajan hurries the Lighthouse in Veii

610 settle Pompeii, make a short peace with China for mysticism

590 meet the rest of the world. No phony wars for now . We have enough happiness from our luxes and first want to see what they can do in science.

570 continue war with China

510 settle Pisae

350 Hadrian appears in the siege of Beijing (which by now has pyramids).

310 capture Beijing. Our golden age starts as I was running out of attackers and had to use my only legion. Hadrian rushes FP in Beijing.

290 peace with China


Science
2190 buy masonry
2070 writing researched
2030 buy BW
1990 buy pottery, TW, IW
1725 get CB in peace treaty
1425 literature researched
1050 Col researched
1025 buy MM
975 buy last turn of philosophy
775 mathematics researched
610 get mysticism in peace treaty
590 buy HBR (from overseas)
410 republic researched (revolt 3 turns anarchy), buy polytheism and construction, which somebody abroad had gotten within 1 turn (obviously a goody hut involved).
270 currency researched ->MA

 

[milr]

Worker to forest didn't find food, decided to settle in place and try to fight my way to a better home. Built barracks, archers, with first archer finding Germans already had me closed into my little corner of the world. Roaded my way to the battlefield, and engaged Romans when I could not afford my growing army any longer. Got rid of the Germans pretty quickly, then worked on the Chinese for a long time (and through GA), getting a couple of GLs along the way. China survives on their island - sigh. No sign of anyone else - and I'm not looking. Long live the King!

 

[Chamnix]

Predator conquest challenge.

I settled Rome on top of one of the ivory tiles next to the wheat. My second city went on one of the jungle dyes skipping the desert entirely. I crushed the Germans with archers and jumped my capital to Berlin, leaving them as a 1CC so I could get their free tech later, but Bismarck decided to declare war on China and lost his city pretty quickly.

I waited to attack China until I was in Republic so I could use legions without the despotic Golden Age. I entered the Middle Ages in the early AD years making steady progress against China.

 

[tR1cKy]

Ancient age conquest in 250 AD. Jason score was over 12k points.
Hit the QSC mark with 12 cities, 8 of which captured.
I cannot post a resume here, since it would reveal too much. I'll wait for the next spoiler thread.
Nice game to play

 

[Chamnix]

 

[PaperBeetle]

Yeah, I was still in the ancient age in 250ad too.
Just I was nowhere near getting off the rock, let alone conquesting...

 

[tR1cKy]

IMO, it was the initial phase that gave me such an edge.
I just founded 2 cities, built barracks and trained units.
Well, it works

 

[megistatos]

I'm very pleased that my opening few moves almost duplicated Klarius'. Settled 2SE, built 2 warriors, then archers, then a barracks then archers. Attacked Berlin with 4 archers and just captured it, but before I could destroy their second city, Berlin flipped back. So I made peace for IW, and decided to use Legionaries next time, despite the wasted GA. Germay fell quickly, and then China declared war on me. After a succession of short wars, China was defeated in 310BC, and the leader Trajan was created. By then I had Rome, Berlin, Beijing, Shanghai and Nanking(all other cities were too small to capture).
Then there was a bit of a disaster. First I tried to disband Rome by building a settler while at pop 2. For some reason this didn't work. So I abandonned the city manually, and to my horror, the palace did not appear in Beijing, to use the Chinese RCP 5, but in Shanghai. I presume this is because Beijing had 4 Chinese citizens and 1 Roman(as it was captured), but Shanghai had 4 Romans(it was part of one of the peace treaties). Beijing therefore had to build the palace.
In 50AD I rushed a forbidden palace with Trajan in Veii in the jungles near Berlin, where I have set up a second core. Rome became a republic(some 1000 years late!) in 420AD, and I finally reached the middle ages in 630AD.
The palace and great lighthouse are nearly complete, which should help me find the other continent. I have 15 cities and 68 population in total, plus 2 settlers, 8 workers and 8 slaves. Diplomatic might work well, seeing as Rome is isolated with an abundance of resources.

 

[Paul#42]

Then there was a bit of a disaster. First I tried to disband Rome by building a settler while at pop 2. For some reason this didn't work. So I abandonned the city manually, and to my horror, the palace did not appear in Beijing, to use the Chinese RCP 5, but in Shanghai. I presume this is because Beijing had 4 Chinese citizens and 1 Roman(as it was captured), but Shanghai had 4 Romans(it was part of one of the peace treaties). Beijing therefore had to build the palace.

You can also abandon a town for a settler at pop 1 - key is just to have exactly zero food surplus in the turn you build the settler. Otherwise the governor tries to wait for the town to grow to size three...

CivAssist2 tells you quite reliable where your palace will jump and how much military other towns need to "capitalize".

 

[Più Freddo]

Ancient age conquest in 250 AD.

Awesome. Hit the Middle Ages that year after having conquered the first continent.

Silly not to go for the Lighthouse.

 

[tR1cKy]

Silly not to go for the Lighthouse.

I cannot confirm nor deny, or else i would spoil things

Anyway, in my experience with continent-type games, building the Great Lighthouse is usually worth it... and not only for finding safe paths. The AS seem absolutely incapable of trying suicide routes so if they don't show up in the early game i always go for the GL.