GOTM 80 Spoiler

[Magic_gorter]

turn 152: 1010AD Basra(164)
turn 153: 1020AD Khanbalyk(165) / capture Tours(166) / french civ destroyed / Khorasan(167)+Shangtu(168) / Ibabanago(169) bribed / Kazan(170)+Quinsay(171)+Kerman(172)
turn 154: 1030AD >9M / Naples(173) / bribed Hangchow(174)+Issus(175)+Cunaxa(176)
turn 155: 1040AD Metallurgy->Economics / hut->Cremona(177) / Cannae(178)
turn 156: 1050AD lost one city / Capua+Turin(179)+Genoa(180)+Crete(181)+Verona(182)+Salamis(183)+Lisbon(184)+Hamburg(185)
turn 157: 1060AD Prague(186)+Salzburg(187)+Bergen(188)+Venice(189)+Milan(190)+Ghent(191)
turn 158: 1070AD Pisa(192)+Dublin(193)
turn 159: 1080AD Economics->Sanitation / REVOLUTION / Toronto(194)+Melbourne(195)+Sydney(196)+Karakorum(197)+Samarkand(198)
turn 160: 1090AD >10M / Bokhara(199)+Nishapur(200)
turn 161: 1100AD hut->Kashgar(201)+Tabriz(202)+Aleppo(203)
turn 162: 1110AD Sanitation->Chemistry / >11M / bribed Xinjian(204) / chinese civ destroyed / Kabul(205)+Ormuz(206)+Basra(207)
turn 163: 1120AD Khanbalyk(208)+Khorasan(209)+Shangtu(210)+Kazan(211)+Quinsay(212)
turn 164: 1130AD Chemistry->Physics / >12M / Kerman(213)+Naples(214)+Issus(215)
turn 165: 1140AD >13M / Cunaxa(216)
turn 166: 1150AD >15M
turn 167: 1160AD Physics->Magnetism / >18M / bribed Amatikulu(217) / Cremona(218)
turn 168: 1170AD >19M / Cannae(219)
turn 169: 1180AD >20M / Capua(220)+Turin(221)
turn 170: 1190AD Magnetism->Theory of Gravity / >23M / bribed Tugela(222) / Genoa(223)+Crete(224)+Verona(225)+Salamis(226)
turn 171: 1200AD >24M
turn 172: 1210AD Theory of Gravity->Exposives / >26M / Lisbon(227)
turn 173: 1220AD >27M
turn 174: 1230AD Explosives->Steam Engine / >29M / bribed Umtata(228) / Hamburg(229)
turn 175: 1240AD >31M / Prague(230) / bribed Isandhlwana(231)
turn 176: 1250AD >33M / Salzburg(232)
turn 177: 1260AD Steam Engine->Railroad / >34M / Bergen(233)
turn 178: 1270AD >37M / Venice(234)+Milan(235)+Ghent(236)
turn 179: 1280AD Railroad->Industrialization / >40M / Pisa(237)+Dublin(238)
turn 180: 1290AD >43M / Toronto(239)+Melbourne(240)
turn 181: 1300AD Industrialization->The Corporation / >46M / Sydney(241)
turn 182: 1310AD The Corporation->Refining / >49M / Karakorum(242)+Samarkand(243)
turn 183: 1320AD Refining->Combustion / >55M / Nishapur(244)
turn 184: 1330AD >57M
turn 184: 1340AD >59M / Bokhara(244)
turn 185: 1350AD Combustion->Flight / >62M
turn 186: 1360AD Statue of Liberty build / Flight->Communism / >66M
turn 187: 1370AD >71M
turn 188: 1380AD COmmunism->Espionage / >75M
turn 189: 1390AD Espionage->Conscription / >78M / capture Moscow(245) with King Richard's Crusade / Russian civ destroyed
turn 190: 1400AD >79M
turn 191: 1410AD >80M
turn 192: 1420AD -
turn 193: 1430AD -
turn 194: 1440AD >89M / bribed Ulundi(246) with Sun Tzu War Academy and Hanging Gardens
turn 195: 1450AD >95M
turn 196: 1460AD >102M / bribed Swazi(247)
turn 197: 1470AD >109M
turn 198: 1480AD Adam Smith's Trading Co. build / >117M / bribed Ngome
turn 199: 1490AD >124M
turn 200: 1500AD Oracle build / >139M / bribed Umfolozi/bribed Intombe

Status at +1500
Population: 131,47M; Cities: 252; Trade routes: 0D0F; Government: Democracy
Money: 89 gold; Cost per turn: 360; Total advances: 54; Production: 1642MT; 0 polluted tiles
Wonders: Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Marco Polo, Pyramids, Lighthouse, Great Library, Micelangelo's, Leonardo's, Oracle, Sun Tzu's War Academy, King Richard's Crusade, Adam Smith's Trading Co., The Statue of Liberty and J.S. Bach
Units: 189 engineers, 1 musketeer, 6 partisans, 23 riflemen, 1 crusader, 12 dragoons, 1 transport, 20 spy
Russians, destroyed
Zulu's, Hostile, Cease Fire, no embassy, 3 cities
French, destroyed
Spanish, destroyed
Chinese, destroyed
Greeks, destroyed

turn 201: 1505AD Conscription->Genetic Engineering / >146M
turn 202: 1510AD Great Wall build / >154M / captured Hlobane with Copernicus
turn 203: 1515AD Genetic Engineering->Atomic Theory / >160M
turn 204: 1520AD >167M
turn 205: 1525AD >174M
turn 206: 1530AD >184M
turn 207: 1535AD >194M
turn 208: 1540AD Darwin Voyage (Atomic Theory->Leadership->Tactics), Eiffel Tower and Cure for Cancer build / >205M
turn 209: 1545AD Magellan's Expedition, Isaac Newton College and Shakespeare's Theatre / >216M
turn 210: 1550AD United Nations and Woman's Suffrage build / >224M / bribed Isipezi
turn 211: 1555AD >234M
turn 212: 1560AD >249M
turn 213: 1565AD >265M bribeb Zunguin / Zulu's destroyed
WIN BY CONQUEST

Status at +1565
Population: 266,12M(before bribing last city); Cities: 255; Trade routes: 0D0F; Government: Democracy
Money: 5138(before bribing last city) gold; Cost per turn: 974; Total advances: 58; Production: 1992MT; 0 polluted tiles
Wonders: Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Marco Polo, Pyramids, United Nations, Woman's Suffrage, Lighthouse, Shakespeare's Theatre, Isaac Newton College, Magellan's Expedition, Cure for Cancer, Eiffel Tower, Darwin Voyage, Great Wall, Great Library, Micelangelo's, Leonardo's, Oracle, Copernicus, Sun Tzu's War Academy, King Richard's Crusade, Adam Smith's Trading Co., The Statue of Liberty and J.S. Bach
Russians, destroyed
Zulu's, destroyed
French, destroyed
Spanish, destroyed
Chinese, destroyed
Greeks, destroyed

 

[CharlieChuck]

CharlieChuck: Looks like you played ics pretty well - that's not your usual style? I couldn't tell at first glance when you built your Wonders, but it appears you had Marco in 1400BC, which is pretty good. I guess your main problem was casualties.

I've had a few goes at an ICS style now, I mostly tried it to speed up the game time. The starting position in this game was good with the river and good shield resources, this helped getting marco's so early. The only problem was the lack of good sites for coastal towns. This delayed my attack, and meant I was attacking with not enough troops a lot of the time. I ended up finishing about 1000AD, after a lot of moving ships from the wrong place late on.

I built a lot of wonders at the end, but also Great wall 100bc (to stop other civ's building it) and colossus 1000bc.

A BC victory would be impressive in this game, I think it could only be done sending out chariots to the furthest cities, not crusaders.

 

[Peaster]

CC: You're right about the coastal towns; this was also a problem for me when creating a long ship chain, east/north of Spain, then to France. That was partly bad luck. The terrain was better elsewhere (south) but sometimes you have to decide your route before seeing much of the map. I wasn't sure I could get to France other ways (eg via China). I had similar uncertainty about the Zulu's, and eventually approached them from several directions, which was not very efficient.

I probably could have conquered around 200AD without much change in my plan, but I invested in my ship chain + vans instead of ele/crusaders. One might finish BC by lucky-guessing the best sea routes to France and Zulu, and/or by sending out explorers to pop huts (hoping, for example, for an advanced tribe near Zulu, to rush-build attackers).

Late in my game, the Zulu's built a couple of cities far to the west, which weren't on the map I'd gotten from them earlier. Probably the result of huts. That kind of thing would make a BC finish really tough.