GOTM150 Arabia Monarch 100k - Pre-Game Discussion

[Più Freddo]

GOTM150 Arabia Monarch 100k

In game number 150 of the classic game of the month series you will rule as Abu Bakr over the Arabs, who are expansionist and religious and start the game with the knowledge of Pottery and Ceremonial Burial. The game was designed by kuningas.

This is a Monarch-level game, and this month we sponsor the 100k victory condition. This means that you must collect 100'000 culture points for your civilization. The Arab unique unit is the Ansar Warrior, a replacement for the Knight which costs less, defends weaker but moves faster, a whopping three tiles per turn.

In order to make the game a little faster and more interesting, kuningas has added another cultural building to the game: Petra. This building costs 80 shields, produces two culture per turn, raises production in its city by 25% and produces two happy faces there as well. Knowledge of Polytheism is required to build Petra.

Another rule change is that the AI tribes all get an extra Worker.

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We continue to use a modified form of the standard PTW scenario, and although no bugs have been reported in some time, it is possible that play testing has not been exhaustive. Any in-game event or behaviour that a player feels is unintended should be reported to the GOTM staff immediately.

Here is your start position:

Scope of the Game:

Civilization|Arabia
Difficulty|Monarch
Map size|Standard, 100x100 Tiles
Map topology|Pangaea, 60% Water
Climate|Warm and Arid
Rivals|7 Pre-Selected AI Tribes
Barbarians|Roaming
Required victory condition|100k
Submissions due by 29 June 2016 |PLEASE NOTE THE DATE

Game relase page

 

[templar_x]

cool. i am not sure i will find the time for a 100k competition, but i may try.

so Petra is a building and not a wonder? Sounds like a no-brainer to spam that one anywhere possible

the start looks tricky however. a 4-turner is easily possible, however it requires lots of time and preparation. scout 2SW and worker 1SE? dunno.

t_x

 

[hth]

Is this Petra a religious kind, so it really cost 40?

 

[Più Freddo]

We'll see when we open the save, but I think it really costs 80 shields. It would be just a little bit too easy otherwise, don't you think?

 

[hth]

We'll see when we open the save

IIRC only if author specially writes this info into pedia entry. Otherwise we'll see it only in city screen on building queue.

It would be just a little bit too easy otherwise, don't you think?

Of course it be so. For only 2 tech advances we can spam these building with 1pop rushing (like barracks) anythere.

 

[Più Freddo]

Well, the information I have from kuningas is that Petra costs 80 shields. I think we can rely on that.

 

[lifetap]

I'll prolly pass on this one, and focus on conquests instead of ptw. goodluck guys!

 

[templar_x]

is there a chance that cultural conversions are off? with all the culture i build, I have not yet seen a single town flip to me...
t_x

 

[hth]

CA2 tells flip is ON.

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Btw, If you are so far along why not upload a QSC? Only 2 days left.

 

[templar_x]

i am trying hard to find time for this first ever to finish 100k game... but i won´t be able to do so in the remaining few days. therefore i ask in advance if we can get 2 or even better 3 more weeks to finish this... pleeease.
t_x

 

[hth]

Endgame phase (30-50t, roughly second half of 100k accumulation) should run MUCH faster than ICS phase, because player actions will have very insignificant impact on finish date & score. For my past 100k debut in gotm146 it was cost only 2 hours from 50.

I have some question by myself. Which building is better as #2 after temple for ICS cities - Petra with only 2cpt but no maint., or Lib with 3cpt but with 1gpt upkeep? Feel first is better, but not sure.

 

[Lanzelot]

Endgame phase (30-50t, roughly second half of 100k accumulation) should run MUCH faster than ICS phase, because player actions will have very insignificant impact on finish date & score.

This may be true in theory, but I often found that in practise the AI always decides to launch a suicidal attack on me during that endgame phase, and dealing with that takes a lot of real time. (A lot more than just hitting enter would cost...)

 

[hth]

If you do right game - you already stay very close to domlim, so remaining AIs have insufficient power for make troubles.

 

[Lanzelot]

33% of the world is quite enough to cause some trouble, especially if that territory belongs to just 1 or 2 AIs. Also I usually keep only a small force at the borders and disband the rest of my units into culture buildings...

 

[templar_x]

what about my time extension?
t_x

 

[hth]

Also I usually keep only a small force at the borders and disband the rest of my units into culture buildings...

I decide not do it because of low profit and keep 50+ mil units, so AIs behave yourselves silent.

 

[hth]

Lanzelot, how wrong I was! Exactly in endgame phase AIs goes completely mad. Nothing matters, absolutely. My guess - they got bored too ))

 

[Lanzelot]

Lanzelot, how wrong I was! Exactly in endgame phase AIs goes completely mad. Nothing matters, absolutely.

This is what I meant by "suicidal attack"... My guess: the "AI" programmers have added some kind of simple/primitive algorithm which, when it recognizes that the game will be lost soon, will "try anything", even the most idiotic attack on a super-power.

In Domination and Conquest games we usually don't notice this, because we are already at war with all or most remaining AIs anyway. But I notice this very often in the peaceful end-phase of 20K, 100K and spaceship games. In these cases the victory date of the human side is pretty easy to calculate, even for a stupid AI, and this then "pulls the trigger".

 

[templar_x]

i really do not want to be a pita, but once more i ask for an extension. no way i could play this week at all, just too much work and other types of real life. with 3 extra weeks i am pretty sure i could finish my first 100k game ever...

3 hours on the clock... any reaction like "improve your time management t_x!" or "sure you can have some extra time for your 1st 100k submission" would be nice. or something in between.

t_x

 

[hth]

Try to pm to ALanH? He can't read this thread, probably.

Personally I have to mixed opinions about this issue so prefer keep silence, mainly because my poor language prevent me from complex discussions. But anyway, only TWO uploads (or even three with yours) for gotm obviously is not fun thing.