Government Legacy Bonus

[pholtz]

Can't find one place where this is explained, but I THINK the following is correct:

- Each government type has a different legacy bonus

- You earn the bonus by sticking with the government for a length of time (how long?) America has the special ability to halve this time

- (What I'm most unsure about) After you earn the bonus it stays in force for the remainder of the game, no matter what your present government is.

- Multiple bonuses in effect at the same time would therefore be possible.

- The legacy bonus is fixed, that is once you earn it, staying with the government longer has no further legacy bonus effect (hmm, not too sure about this either).

If the above are true, it might be wise to switch governments as soon as you earn the legacy bonus to maximize them. America especially might be able to get all of them. Other factors like cost of switch, or current situation may of course delay or make unwise any government switch.

Are my assumptions right?

 

[bumpyglint]

I think the legacy bonus is something like "every 100 turns you get X", so if you keep the same goverment for 200 time you get X two times (but i'm not 100 % sure).

 

[fmm]

I think the legacy bonus grows over time. The bonus are all like "+X% Bonus Great People point generation." or "+X% discount on Faith purchases." I believe the X depends on how long you have been in the relevant government type. So staying longer *does* give further legacy bonus effects.

I think you have the rest of it correct though- the legacy bonus from a government is something you get permanently even if you later switch governments.

 

[Big J Money]

I had an article, I think it was VentureBeat, that said

1) Your legacy bonus increases as you hold onto a government

2) When you switch to a new government, the legacy bonus of the old one resets to 0, but then begins to increase again

This matches some screenshots of legacy bonuses I saw where the legacy bonus for a government was higher when the civ was still actively using it.

Assuming they didn't word it wrong, this means the sooner you switch away from a government is also something to consider.

 

[indradiva]

AFAIK the legacy bonus grows over time and when you switch governments you get a part of it permanently. So if you get +30% to Wonders and then switch government you'll get +15% to keep as legacy, I don't know exact ratio though.

 

[Deggial]

^ This.

 

[Haggbart]

AFAIK the legacy bonus grows over time and when you switch governments you get a part of it permanently. So if you get +30% to Wonders and then switch government you'll get +15% to keep as legacy, I don't know exact ratio though.

This is my understanding as well. I was also under the impression that the longer you had a government, the larger proportion of the bonus will be kept when you switch.

 

[Big J Money]

I guess the lead producer could have been wrong. This is what he said to Venture Beat:
http://venturebeat.com/2016/08/17/why-teddy-roosevelts-fat-face-matters-in-civilization-vi/

“America, I think their ability is called Founding Fathers. What Founding Fathers does for you is, when you do have a government, it’s called the heritage bonus. It multiplies twice as fast. The longer you keep a government, the same government, the more of a certain type of ability you get. If you switch it goes back to zero and starts climbing again. But it goes up twice as fast for America.”

 

[Browd]

Probably what he meant is that, when you switch governments, the legacy bonus for your new government resets to zero and builds from there over time. So if your prior government's legacy bonus had risen from 0% to, e.g., 15% when you switched governments, you would keep (all or some portion of) the accrued legacy bonus from that prior government after switching governments, but you would also start back at 0% for the new government's legacy bonus and grow that new legacy bonus over time, with America's ability increasing the new government's bonus twice as fast as other civs.

 

[isau]

You can see some of the legacy bonuses in this screenshot. Unfortunately all zeroed out so you can't see how they roll over.

Spoiler :

- Classical Republic: Bonus Great People
- Autocracy: Bonus Wonder Production
- Oligarchy: Bonus Combat XP

- Monarchy: Bonus influence
- Theocracy: Discount on Faith purchases
- Merchant Republic: Discount on Gold purchases

The others are cut off in the screenshots I can immediately find. I half-know what they are from partial screenshots, but don't want to spread false rumors, so I'll refrain from posting for now.

 

[Selten]

Where have they ever stated that you retain any of your legacy bonus when you switch governments? This would seem very strange to me as the mechanic is clearly designed to discourage switching.

 

[Red Pearl]

At 4:28 in the Devs Play as Brazil video they are at the My Government screen and it has a section that says Legacy Bonuses. Since it says bonuses as oppose to bonus would imply that you have more than one.

 

[isau]

Where have they ever stated that you retain any of your legacy bonus when you switch governments? This would seem very strange to me as the mechanic is clearly designed to discourage switching.

I think it's brilliant if it works how people are describing it. It means when a civ switches, it doesn't totally abandon the identity it's had all game. Choices from much earlier in the game still impact it. If you spent 1000 years as an Autocracy or a Theocracy, or your foundations were a Classical Republic, there are still lingering effects of that throughout history.

I love it. I sincerely hope that's how it works.

 

[Selten]

At 4:28 in the Devs Play as Brazil video they are at the My Government screen and it has a section that says Legacy Bonuses. Since it says bonuses as oppose to bonus would imply that you have more than one.

Which still doesn't imply that you retain old bonuses. Once again, where have they ever stated this?

 

[Deggial]

Where have they ever stated that you retain any of your legacy bonus when you switch governments? This would seem very strange to me as the mechanic is clearly designed to discourage switching.

There was a screenshot where you could see the (high) bonus of your current government and beneath the (lower) actual legacy bonus.

The idea is basically the same as in Civ5 where the social policies you took during the game defined your civilization's character, your "legacy".
But the new system is way more flexible and elegant.

 

[Red Pearl]

Which still doesn't imply that you retain old bonuses. Once again, where have they ever stated this?

With the exception of Chiefdom every government looks like it has only one legacy bonus.

 

[SupremacyKing2]

Here is a screenshot I took of a government with its legacy bonus higher than 0. We can see that there is a standard bonus and a legacy bonus. Note that it is the same as the other bonus but a smaller percentage. So, it is possible that the legacy bonus is what you get to keep if you change governments.

 

[fmm]

It says "Legacy Bonuses" plural and clearly has spots for many of these.

 

[Selten]

The screenshot does make it look as if some bonus is retained.

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[Lucius_]

I'm certain the legacy bonuses carry over when you change gov'ts, I just can't site a source, but it has been said somewhere along the line. I wish the gov't screen would show how long you've been in your current gov't for, so you can kind of figure out how long until your legacy bonus reaches x%. I'm also curious if it accumulates by turn or by years. If years, than earlier gov'ts will accumulate bonuses faster than later era governments.