I'm curious what people's thoughts are on the current state of the governors are in terms of balance. I liked a lot of the changes they made not long ago, but I still don't think they're all on even ground. The one that jumps out to me the most is Liang, who I personally hardly ever use these days. The extra build charge is very nice, obviously, but the rest of her kit seems awful weak to me. The environmental damage nullification is pretty dependent on luck, the extra housing doesn't seem all that necessary to me, and parks come too late in my experience to be of much use (though maybe you could do some fun things with them if you beeline them as certain civs?). Is there something I am missing here? What changes could be made to bring her towards the rest of the pack? I personally think the rest of the governors are in a pretty good spot. Pingala and Magnus are both fantastic. I can almost always find a use for Reyna, and Victor can be a life saver at times in addition to being great at keeping captured cities in line. Moksha is probably my second least used governor, but that's because I rarely go all-in on religion... if you choose to go that route, I think he's pretty good as well. If people want to talk about Ibrahim here, too, that'd be fine with me. I can see the appeal but I haven't necessarily been as impressed by him as some others have when I play the Ottomans. Serasker is nice when going on the offensive but the rest seems pretty mediocre to me. Grand Vizier probably has some uses but you'd have to basically anchor him in one civ's capital for the whole game to really take advantage of it IMO.