GOZ-2 (Workers unite-stuff the Emperor)
- Thread starter gozpel
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I will, not sure when.
IHT. Switch some cities, MM some.
We need 1 more lux. Sell Electricity to Zulu for Furs + WM + 39 gpt + 56 gold.
Up research to 70%.
IBT. France wants to rediscuss the price of 17 gpt they are paying for our beautiful gems. Actually; they don't want to buy it anymore.
Otto's renegotiate the 2gpt for our Salt. They prefer to pay WM + 26 gold + 13 gpt. Well, ok. Our Palace expands, completes East-wing.
Teno factory -> Musket
Pisae harbor -> court
Ravenna market -> fact
Aku Ankka rax -> worker
[1] 1255 AD, America, India and Zulu know Medicine. It's way too expensive and we learn it in 6.
IBT: Otto's start US. Silks are lost.
[2] 1260 AD. Sell Gems + Coal + Ivory to Zulu for Medicine + 12 gold. Sci Meth in 9.
IBT:
Teno Musket -> Universal Suffrage (Hoover Prebuild)
Xochi Factory -> Univ
Aku Ankka worker -> aqua
[3] 1265 AD. Buy Nationalism of Ottoman's for Gems + Electricity + Medcine + WM.
Sell Greece Medicine for Esp + WM + 111 gold + 4 gpt.
IBT:
Poryx Aqua -> granary
[4] 1270 AD. America, India and Zulu have The Corporation. They are going for the upper branch ! Excellent.
IBT: Indians want to talk. If we are interested in their TM. Not really.
We loose our wines; Gandhi doesn't think that horses, Ivory and Gems are enough. Drink it yourself Gandhi-boy. Americans want to talk, gosh we are popular !
Are we interested in an Alliance Vs the Romans ? Nah.
Teoti riots; they liked the Indian wine (yuck).
[5] 1275 AD. Nottin. Except upping sci to 80% (Sci Meth in 5 @ -15gpt).
IBT: Ravenna Riots. What is it with this awful tasting Indian wine ?
Loco Factory -> lib
Panama City Court -> aqua
[6] 1280 AD. Americans, India and Zulu now know RP. That's good (for us). Rome lost a city. Down to 2. Our deals with them expire in 2 turns. Let's hope they hold out long enough. Trade them Nationalism for WM + 2 gold. Rifles are just what they might need.
IBT:
Teoti Factory -> Univ
Rikem Factory -> Univ
Caliente Univ -> Intelligence Agency (ToE prebuild)
Tamuin aqua -> market
[7] 1285 AD. Sell Ivory to India for WM + 127 gold. Sell India Gems for 212 gold.
IBT: Rome wants to talk. I decide to pay him a last visit before he is dead. Sell our WM for his + 10 bars of his gold plated latinum.
[8] 1290 AD. Decide to not yet cancel the Rome Rop, as it nets us 27 gpt. I am keeping an eye on him though.
IBT: Rome wants to cancel the deal. I'm not going to sign it again.
[9] 1295 AD. Nottin happening; it's as quiet in our nation as in Wagga Wagga.
IBT: France and America sign MPP. We learn Sci Meth. Research set to Sanitation.
Loco lib -> Univ
Taco Factory -> Palace
[10] Hmmm. Caliente switched to ToE in 14. Teno finishes Universal Suffrage in 13. Remember that was an Hoover prebuild. Switch some tiles in Teno to slow the production to 15 turns. Taco switches to Intelligence agency. Slow research on Sanitation to 13 turns.
But why am I even bothering, next player to take over.
Game on !
We need 1 more lux. Sell Electricity to Zulu for Furs + WM + 39 gpt + 56 gold.
Up research to 70%.
IBT. France wants to rediscuss the price of 17 gpt they are paying for our beautiful gems. Actually; they don't want to buy it anymore.
Otto's renegotiate the 2gpt for our Salt. They prefer to pay WM + 26 gold + 13 gpt. Well, ok. Our Palace expands, completes East-wing.
Teno factory -> Musket
Pisae harbor -> court
Ravenna market -> fact
Aku Ankka rax -> worker
[1] 1255 AD, America, India and Zulu know Medicine. It's way too expensive and we learn it in 6.
IBT: Otto's start US. Silks are lost.
[2] 1260 AD. Sell Gems + Coal + Ivory to Zulu for Medicine + 12 gold. Sci Meth in 9.
IBT:
Teno Musket -> Universal Suffrage (Hoover Prebuild)
Xochi Factory -> Univ
Aku Ankka worker -> aqua
[3] 1265 AD. Buy Nationalism of Ottoman's for Gems + Electricity + Medcine + WM.
Sell Greece Medicine for Esp + WM + 111 gold + 4 gpt.
IBT:
Poryx Aqua -> granary
[4] 1270 AD. America, India and Zulu have The Corporation. They are going for the upper branch ! Excellent.
IBT: Indians want to talk. If we are interested in their TM. Not really.
We loose our wines; Gandhi doesn't think that horses, Ivory and Gems are enough. Drink it yourself Gandhi-boy. Americans want to talk, gosh we are popular !
Are we interested in an Alliance Vs the Romans ? Nah.
Teoti riots; they liked the Indian wine (yuck).
[5] 1275 AD. Nottin. Except upping sci to 80% (Sci Meth in 5 @ -15gpt).
IBT: Ravenna Riots. What is it with this awful tasting Indian wine ?
Loco Factory -> lib
Panama City Court -> aqua
[6] 1280 AD. Americans, India and Zulu now know RP. That's good (for us). Rome lost a city. Down to 2. Our deals with them expire in 2 turns. Let's hope they hold out long enough. Trade them Nationalism for WM + 2 gold. Rifles are just what they might need.
IBT:
Teoti Factory -> Univ
Rikem Factory -> Univ
Caliente Univ -> Intelligence Agency (ToE prebuild)
Tamuin aqua -> market
[7] 1285 AD. Sell Ivory to India for WM + 127 gold. Sell India Gems for 212 gold.
IBT: Rome wants to talk. I decide to pay him a last visit before he is dead. Sell our WM for his + 10 bars of his gold plated latinum.
[8] 1290 AD. Decide to not yet cancel the Rome Rop, as it nets us 27 gpt. I am keeping an eye on him though.
IBT: Rome wants to cancel the deal. I'm not going to sign it again.
[9] 1295 AD. Nottin happening; it's as quiet in our nation as in Wagga Wagga.
IBT: France and America sign MPP. We learn Sci Meth. Research set to Sanitation.
Loco lib -> Univ
Taco Factory -> Palace
[10] Hmmm. Caliente switched to ToE in 14. Teno finishes Universal Suffrage in 13. Remember that was an Hoover prebuild. Switch some tiles in Teno to slow the production to 15 turns. Taco switches to Intelligence agency. Slow research on Sanitation to 13 turns.
But why am I even bothering, next player to take over.
Game on !
Bede ?
Any progress ?
Any progress ?
Goz2 PTW 1300
Diplomacy and Trade
At peace with all and entangled with none.
Rome is everybody's target but Greece and Azteca.
America, India and France are MPP partners and America and India are allied against Rome
Check status of all running deals
America: nothing outstanding, nothing pending Trade WM's and pick up 11g
India: RoP expired but still in force, no reason to cancel; 17 turns on our Ivory and Gems, expires 1385, collect 2g for WM
Ottomans: 13gpt for our saltpeter, expires 1350, our Gems expires 1365. Could use coal and ivory, none to spare atm, collect 13g for WM, his treasury now empty.
Greece: Ivory and 10gpt expires in 1310, Incense for our gems and 5gpt expires in 1325, 12gpt to Greece expires in 1345, 4 gpt from Greece expires in 1365, collect 7g and TM for our WM.
J D'Arc is shipping dyes and 12 gpt till 1345, nothing else pending, Collect her WM, TM and 20g for WM
Zulu: Furs and 39gpt till 1350, collect 18g, his WM and TM for WM
Rome: No active deals and none in the future. He's down to two cities and Electricity, Medicine and Espionage won't help.
Cartographer's Report
Rome is a tiny scorched peninsula in the south corner of the other corner. India hangs like the sword of Damocles above his two towns (pop4 and pop6)
India is a tidy 7 city nation occupying most of the eastern continent.
The western continent is more crowded with four nations occupying a rather complicated layout of bays and peninsulas.
Zululand occupies the thumb and forefinger in the north with 7 cities, a town, and a tundra ville. There is a Zulu town on an island on the SE corner
France wraps around an inland sea southeast of Zululand with 7 small cities, an eighth on the eastern shore separated from the core by Greek towns and a ninth little burg in the far south on the other side of the Ottoman lands.
Greece is a belt across the middle of the landmass from NE to the western shore. It appears that at some point Greeks and Ottomans fought a war with the Greeks taking three towns west of the inland sea from the Turks and the Turks taking the Greek territory south of Mycenae on the eastern side.
Ottomans occupy the southern quarter of the continent, evenly split east and west of the arm of the sea.
Hardly want to discuss America in this review. Abe is in possession of the largest contiguous area, with varied and productive terrain types which have allowed him to build 15 pop12 cities. Oddly enough none of them show up in the Top 5 Cities screen. Judging from the trade screen he apparently has all the resources usable at this stage. His southern cities are vulnerable to attack by artillery from within our borders but we don't have any and don't have the offense to take three size 12 cities with cavalry. Given the added corruption from taking his towns I think the wisest military strategy remains the quiescent one of building defenses in the north. Long term we need to consider a resource denial campaign. Should it turn out that Abe has no rubber, as he well may not given his terrain, then we could consider moving on him in force with cavalry and artillery, though it may well be that the time for war with Abe has passed.
Our long term strategy has been evoloving towards either diplomatic or scientific victory rather than cultural or military, I propose that we build towards the UN with a Spaceship as the fallback.
City Management
Raised lux by 52gpt to get Teoti off starvation diet. Will build cathedral after university finishes and will get the money back in 8 turns
Turned taxmen into farmers at Teno for additonal 5gpt
Set a citizen at Zalco on mined hill, dropped food surplus to 1 but took 4 turns off factory build, growth now in six.
Queue up a bank in Calix to follow factory build.
Stalled growth at Poxyx for one turn to get better timing on granary finish.
We need to migrate citizens from surplus food corrupt northern cities to the southern core as there are a number of high value unworked areas down there.
As a start waste a shield in Tanalco for a settler. When Ravenna finishes its factory in 22 will make a good source for settlers to build the truly productive cities in the south. Also rush a settler in Pisae for 48 gold. Calix and Loco will make good homes for them.
In general, as usual when followwing RikM, any city management steps are marginal at best. No other changes are needed.
I'm looking forward to a round of quiet building and trading.
T1 1305
Ottomans and India sign MPP.
India would like to renew the RoP. Do so as it's low cost freind insurance.
Pisae and Tanalco build settlers. Pisae starts walls to regain the defense bonus, Tanalco starts library, will cash rush as soon as treasury has 1700g. Swap Chalco from Courthouse to settler and lose six shields which will be regained in less than two turns in one of our less corrupted factory towns.
Our bleeping workers have not finshed the milnet as it takes two turns to position the settlers!!
Looks like J D'Arc and Gandhi are researching SM as their offers are the lightest. Lincoln and Shaka would offer a tech of our choice and all their treasury and at least 34 gpt, a very nice premium. Alex son of Philip Macedon would offer any two tech of our choice or, one tech and 45gpt. Decline to make the trades so as not to jeopardize ToE build at Caliente.
Greece joins India in the Roman dogpile.
Pompeii has fallen to the Americans.
Calix finishes its factory and starts a bank. Citizens shifted to shield tiles. Calix now produces 22 net spt.
India learns SM and starts ToE in Karachi pop 6 on an island shared with America, two mined mountains and a mined hill adding up to 10spt.
T2 1310
Settler added to Loco adds 10gpt to the treasury and 6spt to Locos' productivity.
India sold SM to Abe for at least 170g
Remembering that these guys are tech harlots, offer SM again. Boy is the tech devaluation curve steep. Best offer I can get now for SM is 190G, no technology. If I want a technology it's going to cost 780G and no rebate. Decide to sell it on to Alex for his silks and his treasury. The added luxury puts everybody back to work and lets me cut the entertainment tax to 0. It will be interesting to see where SM ends up in 1315.
India and Rome sign a peace treaty.
America starts ToE in Atlanta (55spt) due in 10
Atlanta is in America's far north Our cav couldn't reach it fast enough to kill the build before Abe steamrolled us in the north.
Greeks start ToE in Mycenae due in 80
1315
Add settler to Calix, treasury revenues go up 5gpt and productivity at Calix rises by 2spt to 24
Add settler to Zalco, treasury revenues remian unchanged but productivity at Zalco rises 2 spt.
Even starving Caliente I can't get the build on ToE under ten so swap Taco to Coal Plant and Caliente to Intelligence.
Crank research to 100% (-165gpt) to get Atomic Theory in 11. That will consume our treasury but cost will drop as universities come on line
Discover that Sanitation is spread throughout the world to all the nations that matter except Shaka and at least he won't get next turn as I trade Shaka Scientific Method for his 192g.
In looking around the map I discover that Teno can pull ToE in 6 so swap US to Caliente and IA back to Taco. Atlanta is afflicted by pollution so we may pull it off yet. However this move could cost us Hoover but with a two tech lead on America and a rushed Coal Plant in Teno still might pull it off.
The French finish off the Romans.
Shaka starts ToE in Intombe due in 18.
T4 1320
Shaka has learned Sanitation
We can buy it for 700g
Teoti finishes its University and starts a Stock Exchange. Sanitation now due in 3
French start ToE in Rheims due in 14.
Spent a bunch of gold to learn all this but we will get it back.
T5 1325
Just a lot of fiddling around.
Incense deal expires and Alex does not want to renew. He will give us 11gpt and 65g for Gems but table it until I can consider offers from elsewhere
Of course Teoti riots, should have built that cathedral after all. Cycle the rest of the towns to prevent more and hire a bunch of taxmen
T6 1330
Strip Alexanders treasury for gems (107g and 11gpt). Strip JD'arc's treasury for our last gems (156g and 12gpt). This is a slightly desperate tactic in an attempt to slow the tech pace.
Lux tax goes up to compensate but we get gems back in six turns or so from an expiring deal so I think it's a pain we can bear.
Washington builds Universal Suffrage, and we lose ToE to the Zulu cascade and I sold Shaka the tech for a mess of pottage
(sorry, guys)
T7 1335
Teno gets a very expensive Stock Exchange.
I could almost start a war from frustration!!
Ottomans come calling and want our maps. Not today Osman.
Zulu and America sign an MPP.
T8 1340
America has steel. India has steel and refining. Greece has steel and refining. France has steel and refining. Shaka has steel and refining.
How are these guys doing this?
Start a bunch of coal plants.
T9 1345
We learn Sanitation and build the Intelligence Agency and a Dyes deal expires.
Set lux and science to 0
Spend 355g for French dyes
Spend 540g for Zulu spices
Spend 525g for Greek Incense
Turn on the governors to manage citizen moods to put everybody back to work and to identify hot spots. Turn governor off and run through the cities for opportunities to boost gpt or spt.
Leave lux at zero and crank science to Atomic Theory to 100% Can only do two turns at this pace and it is going to take ten. Turn science down to 70% Atomic theory now due in 13 and treasury in the black +41. The lux deals stripped it down to only 341 but solved our contentment problems for twenty turns and didn't subsidise the AI research budget.
Bump science back up to 80% to get Atomic Theory in 12 at
-23gpt. Will bring us close to busted but I don't see any other way to stay in the race.
T10 1350
Furs deal expires with Shaka expires and with it 39gpt to the treasury
Renewal will cost everything we have and then some. Reset lux to 10% and drop science to 60% AT now in 14 at +6gpt. This will improve as banks and universities come on line.
This was a rather desperate round and involved a lot of nail biting. The opponents keep getting smarter and stronger and I seemed powerless to do anyting about it. We are not behind, just barely keeping up, and I fear we have a big target painted on our chest.
As I consider it I think the root of the problem rest in that little contretemps with Abe when we weren't really ready for it. It put a big kink in the economic and scientific development at a crucial time. Since that time we seem to be in constant catch up mode and missing critical deadlines, never by much.
Not sure what counsel to offer, and if we are giving out "Weediest Move" awards, I think my deal with Shaka qualifies.
My biggest fear is that Abe will get tanks and come rolling south, though since he hasn't yet researched any of the enabling techs he may not have access to oil. Now my map deal with Abe looks really dumb as he can see our oil and we can't, if we have any, so he may come south with cav's. I haven't seen any American infantry so he may be missing rubber as well. The target on our chest just grows bigger as the jungle in our waist and the tundra south could well be the only source on those two resources on the continent.
No pictures this time, sorry.
On to next better player
Apologize again for delay but my son, whom I have not seen in three years, arrived from NY so RL took precendence....
Diplomacy and Trade
At peace with all and entangled with none.
Rome is everybody's target but Greece and Azteca.
America, India and France are MPP partners and America and India are allied against Rome
Check status of all running deals
America: nothing outstanding, nothing pending Trade WM's and pick up 11g
India: RoP expired but still in force, no reason to cancel; 17 turns on our Ivory and Gems, expires 1385, collect 2g for WM
Ottomans: 13gpt for our saltpeter, expires 1350, our Gems expires 1365. Could use coal and ivory, none to spare atm, collect 13g for WM, his treasury now empty.
Greece: Ivory and 10gpt expires in 1310, Incense for our gems and 5gpt expires in 1325, 12gpt to Greece expires in 1345, 4 gpt from Greece expires in 1365, collect 7g and TM for our WM.
J D'Arc is shipping dyes and 12 gpt till 1345, nothing else pending, Collect her WM, TM and 20g for WM
Zulu: Furs and 39gpt till 1350, collect 18g, his WM and TM for WM
Rome: No active deals and none in the future. He's down to two cities and Electricity, Medicine and Espionage won't help.
Cartographer's Report
Rome is a tiny scorched peninsula in the south corner of the other corner. India hangs like the sword of Damocles above his two towns (pop4 and pop6)
India is a tidy 7 city nation occupying most of the eastern continent.
The western continent is more crowded with four nations occupying a rather complicated layout of bays and peninsulas.
Zululand occupies the thumb and forefinger in the north with 7 cities, a town, and a tundra ville. There is a Zulu town on an island on the SE corner
France wraps around an inland sea southeast of Zululand with 7 small cities, an eighth on the eastern shore separated from the core by Greek towns and a ninth little burg in the far south on the other side of the Ottoman lands.
Greece is a belt across the middle of the landmass from NE to the western shore. It appears that at some point Greeks and Ottomans fought a war with the Greeks taking three towns west of the inland sea from the Turks and the Turks taking the Greek territory south of Mycenae on the eastern side.
Ottomans occupy the southern quarter of the continent, evenly split east and west of the arm of the sea.
Hardly want to discuss America in this review. Abe is in possession of the largest contiguous area, with varied and productive terrain types which have allowed him to build 15 pop12 cities. Oddly enough none of them show up in the Top 5 Cities screen. Judging from the trade screen he apparently has all the resources usable at this stage. His southern cities are vulnerable to attack by artillery from within our borders but we don't have any and don't have the offense to take three size 12 cities with cavalry. Given the added corruption from taking his towns I think the wisest military strategy remains the quiescent one of building defenses in the north. Long term we need to consider a resource denial campaign. Should it turn out that Abe has no rubber, as he well may not given his terrain, then we could consider moving on him in force with cavalry and artillery, though it may well be that the time for war with Abe has passed.
Our long term strategy has been evoloving towards either diplomatic or scientific victory rather than cultural or military, I propose that we build towards the UN with a Spaceship as the fallback.
City Management
Raised lux by 52gpt to get Teoti off starvation diet. Will build cathedral after university finishes and will get the money back in 8 turns
Turned taxmen into farmers at Teno for additonal 5gpt
Set a citizen at Zalco on mined hill, dropped food surplus to 1 but took 4 turns off factory build, growth now in six.
Queue up a bank in Calix to follow factory build.
Stalled growth at Poxyx for one turn to get better timing on granary finish.
We need to migrate citizens from surplus food corrupt northern cities to the southern core as there are a number of high value unworked areas down there.
As a start waste a shield in Tanalco for a settler. When Ravenna finishes its factory in 22 will make a good source for settlers to build the truly productive cities in the south. Also rush a settler in Pisae for 48 gold. Calix and Loco will make good homes for them.
In general, as usual when followwing RikM, any city management steps are marginal at best. No other changes are needed.
I'm looking forward to a round of quiet building and trading.
T1 1305
Ottomans and India sign MPP.
India would like to renew the RoP. Do so as it's low cost freind insurance.
Pisae and Tanalco build settlers. Pisae starts walls to regain the defense bonus, Tanalco starts library, will cash rush as soon as treasury has 1700g. Swap Chalco from Courthouse to settler and lose six shields which will be regained in less than two turns in one of our less corrupted factory towns.
Our bleeping workers have not finshed the milnet as it takes two turns to position the settlers!!
Looks like J D'Arc and Gandhi are researching SM as their offers are the lightest. Lincoln and Shaka would offer a tech of our choice and all their treasury and at least 34 gpt, a very nice premium. Alex son of Philip Macedon would offer any two tech of our choice or, one tech and 45gpt. Decline to make the trades so as not to jeopardize ToE build at Caliente.
Greece joins India in the Roman dogpile.
Pompeii has fallen to the Americans.
Calix finishes its factory and starts a bank. Citizens shifted to shield tiles. Calix now produces 22 net spt.
India learns SM and starts ToE in Karachi pop 6 on an island shared with America, two mined mountains and a mined hill adding up to 10spt.
T2 1310
Settler added to Loco adds 10gpt to the treasury and 6spt to Locos' productivity.
India sold SM to Abe for at least 170g
Remembering that these guys are tech harlots, offer SM again. Boy is the tech devaluation curve steep. Best offer I can get now for SM is 190G, no technology. If I want a technology it's going to cost 780G and no rebate. Decide to sell it on to Alex for his silks and his treasury. The added luxury puts everybody back to work and lets me cut the entertainment tax to 0. It will be interesting to see where SM ends up in 1315.
India and Rome sign a peace treaty.
America starts ToE in Atlanta (55spt) due in 10
Atlanta is in America's far north Our cav couldn't reach it fast enough to kill the build before Abe steamrolled us in the north.Greeks start ToE in Mycenae due in 80
1315
Add settler to Calix, treasury revenues go up 5gpt and productivity at Calix rises by 2spt to 24
Add settler to Zalco, treasury revenues remian unchanged but productivity at Zalco rises 2 spt.
Even starving Caliente I can't get the build on ToE under ten so swap Taco to Coal Plant and Caliente to Intelligence.
Crank research to 100% (-165gpt) to get Atomic Theory in 11. That will consume our treasury but cost will drop as universities come on line
Discover that Sanitation is spread throughout the world to all the nations that matter except Shaka and at least he won't get next turn as I trade Shaka Scientific Method for his 192g.
In looking around the map I discover that Teno can pull ToE in 6 so swap US to Caliente and IA back to Taco. Atlanta is afflicted by pollution so we may pull it off yet. However this move could cost us Hoover but with a two tech lead on America and a rushed Coal Plant in Teno still might pull it off.
The French finish off the Romans.
Shaka starts ToE in Intombe due in 18.
T4 1320
Shaka has learned Sanitation
We can buy it for 700g
Teoti finishes its University and starts a Stock Exchange. Sanitation now due in 3
French start ToE in Rheims due in 14.
Spent a bunch of gold to learn all this but we will get it back.
T5 1325
Just a lot of fiddling around.
Incense deal expires and Alex does not want to renew. He will give us 11gpt and 65g for Gems but table it until I can consider offers from elsewhere
Of course Teoti riots, should have built that cathedral after all. Cycle the rest of the towns to prevent more and hire a bunch of taxmen
T6 1330
Strip Alexanders treasury for gems (107g and 11gpt). Strip JD'arc's treasury for our last gems (156g and 12gpt). This is a slightly desperate tactic in an attempt to slow the tech pace.
Lux tax goes up to compensate but we get gems back in six turns or so from an expiring deal so I think it's a pain we can bear.
Washington builds Universal Suffrage, and we lose ToE to the Zulu cascade and I sold Shaka the tech for a mess of pottage
(sorry, guys)T7 1335
Teno gets a very expensive Stock Exchange.
I could almost start a war from frustration!!
Ottomans come calling and want our maps. Not today Osman.
Zulu and America sign an MPP.
T8 1340
America has steel. India has steel and refining. Greece has steel and refining. France has steel and refining. Shaka has steel and refining.
How are these guys doing this?
Start a bunch of coal plants.
T9 1345
We learn Sanitation and build the Intelligence Agency and a Dyes deal expires.
Set lux and science to 0
Spend 355g for French dyes
Spend 540g for Zulu spices
Spend 525g for Greek Incense
Turn on the governors to manage citizen moods to put everybody back to work and to identify hot spots. Turn governor off and run through the cities for opportunities to boost gpt or spt.
Leave lux at zero and crank science to Atomic Theory to 100% Can only do two turns at this pace and it is going to take ten. Turn science down to 70% Atomic theory now due in 13 and treasury in the black +41. The lux deals stripped it down to only 341 but solved our contentment problems for twenty turns and didn't subsidise the AI research budget.
Bump science back up to 80% to get Atomic Theory in 12 at
-23gpt. Will bring us close to busted but I don't see any other way to stay in the race.
T10 1350
Furs deal expires with Shaka expires and with it 39gpt to the treasury
Renewal will cost everything we have and then some. Reset lux to 10% and drop science to 60% AT now in 14 at +6gpt. This will improve as banks and universities come on line.
This was a rather desperate round and involved a lot of nail biting. The opponents keep getting smarter and stronger and I seemed powerless to do anyting about it. We are not behind, just barely keeping up, and I fear we have a big target painted on our chest.
As I consider it I think the root of the problem rest in that little contretemps with Abe when we weren't really ready for it. It put a big kink in the economic and scientific development at a crucial time. Since that time we seem to be in constant catch up mode and missing critical deadlines, never by much.
Not sure what counsel to offer, and if we are giving out "Weediest Move" awards, I think my deal with Shaka qualifies.
My biggest fear is that Abe will get tanks and come rolling south, though since he hasn't yet researched any of the enabling techs he may not have access to oil. Now my map deal with Abe looks really dumb as he can see our oil and we can't, if we have any, so he may come south with cav's. I haven't seen any American infantry so he may be missing rubber as well. The target on our chest just grows bigger as the jungle in our waist and the tundra south could well be the only source on those two resources on the continent.
No pictures this time, sorry.
On to next better player
Apologize again for delay but my son, whom I have not seen in three years, arrived from NY so RL took precendence....
Bummer.
But don't let this setback take us away from our victory-goals. Why did we want ToE? to get Hoover's. That is still not impossible; if we time a prebuild well enough.
Hoover = 800 shields. Teno should be around 55 SPT, when it finishes the Coal Plant. Unfortunately it has nothing to prebuild.
Caliente can get up around the same number (if our workers do their best a bit more) and has a cost of 700 shields. We should try to do this.
But don't let this setback take us away from our victory-goals. Why did we want ToE? to get Hoover's. That is still not impossible; if we time a prebuild well enough.
Hoover = 800 shields. Teno should be around 55 SPT, when it finishes the Coal Plant. Unfortunately it has nothing to prebuild.
Caliente can get up around the same number (if our workers do their best a bit more) and has a cost of 700 shields. We should try to do this.
Definitely didn't turn away from goals. It's just gotten a little tougher.
Now if our opponents would quit spending so much money on research!!
We need to make deals that take money out of their pockets as much as we can. That litle insurance poilcy I bought against Abe gave the AI a big scientific boost, I fear.
Now if our opponents would quit spending so much money on research!!
We need to make deals that take money out of their pockets as much as we can. That litle insurance poilcy I bought against Abe gave the AI a big scientific boost, I fear.
There are some ways to stop AI trading and spending their cash and gpt on research and make them spend it on something; but I fear we won't survive or can win by igniting a World-War. I agree with Bede's path to the UN; we can loose any wonder, be last in all techs, have a lousy military, be down 9 Space-ship parts etc. If me manage to win a UN vote we are the winners !
For Bede and Ankka: We can always try some "Cultural Domination tactics" !!
I think this game has proven the power of manually-controlling workers, again.
For Bede and Ankka: We can always try some "Cultural Domination tactics" !!
I think this game has proven the power of manually-controlling workers, again.
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Ow. Bad luck on the ToE I think we have to start a world war. We can try to hold out on the choke if america attacks us. What do you think. If we go for the UN what if we don't have urainum.
I agree with Rik. When WW breaks out we have the biggest target on our backs right now. And Abe can just steamroll and sail past the choke and chew us up (he's got a navy of sorts after his Roman adventure.)
The best thing we have going for us right now is our rep. IIRC the only AI with any grudge against us is...Abe!!!
The best thing we have going for us right now is our rep. IIRC the only AI with any grudge against us is...Abe!!!
Sometimes we take chances and we win, other times we lose.
I'm not fussed.
We can still get Hoovers (which we really need) and stay away from war as long as possible.
Great job overall dudes.
I'm back from RL in 2 days, might be my turn by then?
I'm not fussed.
We can still get Hoovers (which we really need) and stay away from war as long as possible.
Great job overall dudes.
I'm back from RL in 2 days, might be my turn by then?
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
I just reliezed i was up. I got it.
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Well we have a World War on our hands and guess who started it. Hint the civ begins with an "A" and ends with "mericans"
Preturn- looks good.
IT-Cancel Saltpeter deal with the Ottomans. Xochi bank->cath. Zalco factory->uni.
1-Lux to 0.
IT-Teno coal plant->hospital. Taco stock->cannon. Tamuin market->library. Chalco walls->temple.
2-Trade coal to zululand for furs, WM, and 80 gold.
IT- Calix cath->hospital. WLTKD and palace expansion.
3- Trade Ivory to greece for WM, 17gpt, and 140 gold.
IT-Teoti stock->coal plant. Loco coal plant-> hospital. Caliente bank->stock. Taco cannon->cannon. Aku Ankka duct->temple.
4- Move cannon to tanaclo.
IT-Teno hospital->rifle. Xochi cath->hospital. Taco cannon->cannon.
5-Move cannon to tanaclo.
IT- America declares war on us. Why always me
They attack Tanaclo and Pisae. We manage to hold but take loses. Calix rifle->cav. Zalco cav->cav.
6-Lose 4 cavs, kill 6 cavs and 2 knights. Upgrade 2 spears in Tanalco to rifles.
IT-America signs zululand vs us and we lose our spices and furs. Our rifle in Pisae retreats 4 cavs. Teno rifle->rifle. Caliente rifle->rifle. Taco Rifle->rifle.
7-Buy Atomic Theory from france for WM 9GPT, and 682 gold. Trade Atomic Theory to greece for Allance vs zulu, RP, and WM, 30 gold. Trade Atomic Theory to india for Allance vs America, Refining, WM, and 101 gold. We have 2 oils and 2 rubbers. Set research to Electronics at one scientist. We need gold for upgrades. Attack an american cav is america territory. Killed the cav but didn't relieze that america had a MMP with France. France Declares on us. Kill 3 more cavs.
IT-Zulu declares on India. France declares on India. America declares war on Greece. Greece and France sign a MPP. Kill 2 cavs 2 rifles and a guerilla. America Captures Chalco from us. Loco hospital->infantry. Tula bank->infantry. France declares on Greece.
8-Retake Chalco. Upgrade 4 more units to infantry. Kill 2 cavs. One of the kills gets us a GreatLeader. Build an army and load 2 infantry into it. Kill a rifle, lose a cav. Trade Atomic Theory to ottomans for Alliance vs france and Steel.
IT- Naval battles offshore, Chalco is captured again. Infantry are built, America declares on Ottomans.
9- WW kicks in. Trade Gems and Ivory to india for wines, 1 gpt. Take back Chalco.
IT- More american troops advance into our territory. Teno Infantry->Infantry. Infantry and buildings are built.
10-Kill a cav. Shuffle troops.
Most of our troops are in the north cities. We need artillery and infantry fast. We may still have a shot at hoovers because noone has electronics.
Preturn- looks good.
IT-Cancel Saltpeter deal with the Ottomans. Xochi bank->cath. Zalco factory->uni.
1-Lux to 0.
IT-Teno coal plant->hospital. Taco stock->cannon. Tamuin market->library. Chalco walls->temple.
2-Trade coal to zululand for furs, WM, and 80 gold.
IT- Calix cath->hospital. WLTKD and palace expansion.
3- Trade Ivory to greece for WM, 17gpt, and 140 gold.
IT-Teoti stock->coal plant. Loco coal plant-> hospital. Caliente bank->stock. Taco cannon->cannon. Aku Ankka duct->temple.
4- Move cannon to tanaclo.
IT-Teno hospital->rifle. Xochi cath->hospital. Taco cannon->cannon.
5-Move cannon to tanaclo.
IT- America declares war on us. Why always me
They attack Tanaclo and Pisae. We manage to hold but take loses. Calix rifle->cav. Zalco cav->cav. 6-Lose 4 cavs, kill 6 cavs and 2 knights. Upgrade 2 spears in Tanalco to rifles.
IT-America signs zululand vs us and we lose our spices and furs. Our rifle in Pisae retreats 4 cavs. Teno rifle->rifle. Caliente rifle->rifle. Taco Rifle->rifle.
7-Buy Atomic Theory from france for WM 9GPT, and 682 gold. Trade Atomic Theory to greece for Allance vs zulu, RP, and WM, 30 gold. Trade Atomic Theory to india for Allance vs America, Refining, WM, and 101 gold. We have 2 oils and 2 rubbers. Set research to Electronics at one scientist. We need gold for upgrades. Attack an american cav is america territory. Killed the cav but didn't relieze that america had a MMP with France. France Declares on us. Kill 3 more cavs.
IT-Zulu declares on India. France declares on India. America declares war on Greece. Greece and France sign a MPP. Kill 2 cavs 2 rifles and a guerilla. America Captures Chalco from us. Loco hospital->infantry. Tula bank->infantry. France declares on Greece.
8-Retake Chalco. Upgrade 4 more units to infantry. Kill 2 cavs. One of the kills gets us a GreatLeader. Build an army and load 2 infantry into it. Kill a rifle, lose a cav. Trade Atomic Theory to ottomans for Alliance vs france and Steel.
IT- Naval battles offshore, Chalco is captured again. Infantry are built, America declares on Ottomans.
9- WW kicks in. Trade Gems and Ivory to india for wines, 1 gpt. Take back Chalco.
IT- More american troops advance into our territory. Teno Infantry->Infantry. Infantry and buildings are built.
10-Kill a cav. Shuffle troops.
Most of our troops are in the north cities. We need artillery and infantry fast. We may still have a shot at hoovers because noone has electronics.
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Here is picture of the front.
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