This idea is fatally flawed as there is no...
Elvis!!!
How could Elvis not be a great entertainer??? Even just in speculation.
Elvis!!!
How could Elvis not be a great entertainer??? Even just in speculation.
Instantly turns into a Rock Band with maybe 2 promotions?This idea is fatally flawed as there is no...
Elvis!!!
How could Elvis not be a great entertainer??? Even just in speculation.
I like the idea of having an Academy in a campus district, instead of the Library.Frankly if the cultural building progressions was Library-Café-Museum, I would find it very appropriate (and non-playwright writers could stay on that side then). Have something like an Academy representing early educational institutions replace the library in science. Theater can take its proper place as Amphitheater in the entertainment district as the first tier building, Opera House sweeping in at tier 2, Zoo can be moved to third tier as one entertainment option along with stadium (less great people point, but more amenities or some such), and the broadcast centre.
I like it. I'm also now envisioning either Japan or China getting a unique Teahouse. We could also give the Ottomans a unique Kahvehane to show the Ottomans' more cultural side.Frankly if the cultural building progressions was Library-Café-Museum, I would find it very appropriate (and non-playwright writers could stay on that side then).
I'd also love to add the ability for Great Musicians to be able to perform at places such as Opera Houses, Stadiums, or Cafés for boosts of culture, amenities and tourism.If that were to happen I could see Great Writers moving away from the "great works" mechanics (keep that to great artists) and being more of a mix of culture bombing-esque and culture boosting mechanics (for the more fictiony writers) and civic research (for more non fictiony writers, as a counterpart to great scientists).
I was thinking maybe Great Musicians have their own style, like art currently has religious, sculpture, landscape etc. Classical Musicians can perform at Opera Houses, while Modern day Musicians can perform at large venues like Stadiums.Honestly if we're going with the reclassified buildings I proposed (opera and broadcast centre moving to entertainment district), I would expect great musicians and entertainers to be integrated and work the amenities side. Even classical musicians in their way: they didn't do it rock star style, but religious hymns and the sponsoring of opera play into the amenities side too.
Cafés could be a Medieval building, if we base them off of the original coffeehouses in the Islamic world.In that case the museum might actually want to be a city centre building (fits what I have in mind for it better, too), with culture possibly integrating a new building - a printing-related building rather leap to mind, or possibly a newspaper. Might have to fiddle with the time periods, though, as newspapers and cafés are largely contemporaries, and printing press not far from. A late ancient - late medieval - early industrial progression should be doable.
Yeah, great writings cold also come in different styles: Not only novels, poetry and dramas/plays, but also there could be great scientific writings making a(nother) bridge between science and culture in the game, and could be hosted in libraries and universities.I was thinking maybe Great Musicians have their own style, like art currently has religious, sculpture, landscape etc. Classical Musicians can perform at Opera Houses, while Modern day Musicians can perform at large venues like Stadiums.
Yeah novels would be great to be housed at libraries, while dramas could be performed at theaters, and even poetry at cafés.Yeah, great writings cold also come in different styles: Not only novels, poetry and dramas/plays, but also there could be great scientific writings making a(nother) bridge between science and culture in the game, and could be hosted in libraries and universities.
Yeah, great writings cold also come in different styles: Not only novels, poetry and dramas/plays, but also there could be great scientific writings making a(nother) bridge between science and culture in the game, and could be hosted in libraries and universities.
Coffeehouses started in the mid-to-late fifteenth century so that's the very tail end of the Middle Ages.Cafés could be a Medieval building, if we base them off of the original coffeehouses in the Islamic world.
*Beatnik snapping intensifies*even poetry at cafés.
Now I'm imagining Great Writers with poetry having a "poetry slam" combat, similar to theological combat but whacking each other with their poetry rather than summoning lightning strikes.*Beatnik snapping intensifies*
I half agree with what you say here - but I don't necessarily think that every great scientists should produce a "great work". But there are some pretty obvious examples: Isaac Newton's "Principia", or Nicolaus Copernicus' "De revolutionibus orbium coelestium" or Charles Darwin's "The Origin of Species" are all notable examples of works that both can be considered scientific breakthroughs, but at the same time cultural works in their own right.Once you start separating Great Writers by Content there's no stopping . . .
You have important political writing like Tom Paine's Rights of Man and Common Sense, that influenced British politics, and both the American and French revolutions.
You have influential historical non and semi-fiction like Herodotus and Gibbon's Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire that had enormous influence on how history of civs was understood and written for centuries after they wrote.
Almost every scientist promulgated his findings by writing them down, so almost all (especially post-Classical) Great Scientists are, in some way, also Great Writers.
That could result in Great Writer being almost a meaningless term, since the precise definition and effects of the game piece would depend so much on What they wrote rather than the fact that they were writing.
I half agree with what you say here - but I don't necessarily think that every great scientists should produce a "great work". But there are some pretty obvious examples: Isaac Newton's "Principia", or Nicolaus Copernicus' "De revolutionibus orbium coelestium" or Charles Darwin's "The Origin of Species" are all notable examples of works that both can be considered scientific breakthroughs, but at the same time cultural works in their own right.
Would/could it not just be a part of their effect, similar to how Sun Tzu creats a great writing or Jeanne D'Arc creates a relic on activation?Question is, then, is a Great Scientist who also produces a Great Work of writing Extra Great?
I do think a happy medium would be that whenever a Great Writer or Musician is used up by some ability, it would end up leaving behind one of their Great works in an appropriate Great work slot in a building.I do think great people beside the great artists should have a link to the great-work-artifact-relic category of items, but I'm thinking that link should be more akin to the heroic relics from hero modes: when a great person dies (eg, is used up), you get a relic/artifact that represent a physical object linked to their history. In some case it could be a physical object that represent or relate to their artistic creation (an ancient manuscript of their work, a first printing, a handwritten score), but it would not be limited to that even for writers and entertainers.