FriskyBuddha
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Can you lose them?
Great General Points
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Afforess
The White Wizard
No. You get them from winning and losing in combat. Battles vs Barbarians don't count toward the points.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
It would if you included the GG from barbarian combat mod
Afforess
The White Wizard
It would if you included the GG from barbarian combat mod
I actually agree with Firaxis, making it so Barbarians give no GG XP. Think about it for a moment. How on earth does slaughtering some pathetic "barbarians" going to inspire a citizen to become next great general?
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
They should only give half or less points but fighting barbarians is what it is all about. Other civs are barbarians too you know
Erii
Chieftain
They should only give half or less points but fighting barbarians is what it is all about. Other civs are barbarians too you know
Only the civs that start in the arctic.
os79
Deity
Other civs are barbarians too you know
Precisely why I refuse to play with barbarians without barbarianCivs option on!
MisterBenn
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You can't lose them but if a team mate earns a general then your threshold will also increase, which will make your progress bar appear to shrink.
generalstaff
Steadfast
Same here. Also, for practical game value; if Barbarians do not become civs, then it feels like they are a cheat which allows me veteran units early on. With the chance that barbarians becomes civs, then I do not raze every barbarian city I come across in hopes of seeding a vassal or ally later on. If there was no BarbarianCivs options, I would not play Barbarians.
As for the topic at hand, I do not mind not getting GG points from killing Barb Warriors and Spearmen, but when I am dealing with the Vandals or Illyrian pirates event, I feel like I deserve some GG points or some sort of reward for dealing with the event.
mussbu
Chieftain
Ditto for 'some' points towards GG (maybe half as much?). I've had some nail biting games early with 'raging barbs', surely some GG would be inspired to arise after surviving these early encounters! And now they're sneeky - infiltrating my strongpoints and pillaging my tile improvements.
Do you folks play with ragin barbs?
Do you folks play with ragin barbs?
dexter_inside
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Only the civs that start in the arctic.
And out of those that start in the arctic, only give points when fighting with barbarian women units, right?
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Personally I fail to see the difference in beating a barbarian spearman or a Roman one.
dexter_inside
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The barbarian spearman lives in the woods and the Roman one has a salary?
Like the difference between a hobby and a profession
Barbarians were invented by Romans - Celts originally had more advanced society but because Romans didn't understand their system, they said those people are barbarians and then enslaved them (Celts gold deposits were the main reason). In fact Romans were kind of barbarians as they had to borrow some advanced stuff from their neighbours...
os79
Deity
Barbarians were invented by Romans - Celts originally had more advanced society but because Romans didn't understand their system, they said those people are barbarians and then enslaved them (Celts gold deposits were the main reason). In fact Romans were kind of barbarians as they had to borrow some advanced stuff from their neighbours...
Trivia addition:
Barbarian comes from the Greek word bar-bar. It basically means blah, blah in our language.
No ownder.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Trivia addition:
Barbarian comes from the Greek word bar-bar. It basically means blah, blah in our language.
No ownder.
Actually I heard it came from the Greek for beard - anyone who has a beard is a barbarian, like me.
szemek77
Prince
Actually, it comes from the Greek barbaros and Latin barbarus which means "foreigner". In ancient Greece, this word was used for all people who were not Greek; in Rome for all who were not Roman or Greek. At the beginning it was neutral. Later, it started to have negative meaning, describing a man who doesn't speak Greek or Latin, ergo - is a primitive, low cultured, wild man.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
I strongly agree with the idea of getting GG points from barbarian combat.
Playing on giant/gigantic maps, typically with 10 - 15 starting nations and raging barbarians, I've had games with 150+ kills before I've even met another nation.
I remember turns at which I've had 40+ Barbs at or within my borders.
As others have stated above, there seems to be no difference in fighting a Roman/Japanese/whatever spear or fighting a barbarian spear.
I would be fine with 50% of the GG points, though.
Playing on giant/gigantic maps, typically with 10 - 15 starting nations and raging barbarians, I've had games with 150+ kills before I've even met another nation.
I remember turns at which I've had 40+ Barbs at or within my borders.
As others have stated above, there seems to be no difference in fighting a Roman/Japanese/whatever spear or fighting a barbarian spear.
I would be fine with 50% of the GG points, though.
MisterBenn
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... or you could follow the Fall From Heaven system where fighting barbarians will only take a unit up to a certain XP limit, then no further. Learning the basics of combat versus barbarians occurs at the same speed as elsewhere, but fighting a disorganised rabble doesn't help learn more advanced tactics.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Not only is this true in RoM also but it is in BtS also.
