GTA Game Rating Changed to Adults Only

I have to say, I'm glad to see them lose a fortune.
 
Jack the Ripper said:
Killing cops is okay but sex scenes? Ooo soo horrible.

Hillary's only shooting herself in the foot, like Mrs Gore did with the "explicit lyrics" thing in the 80s. I think the whole incident will only make the game sell more.


She is the worst of the worst. A carpetbagger that shifts on beliefs for more votes.
 
cierdan said:
BTW, some people in this thread are wrong on the facts about toleration of violence against police or whatever. In some places in America they've made laws making games that have violence against police illegal or something like that, or restricting the sale of those violent games to minors. Also the "V chip" has the name "V" because V stands for Violence. Also, a lot of movies have been criticized because of their excessive or gratuitous violence: Natural Born Killers, Kill Bill, and I think maybe a movie called True Romance or something.

so tell me, how many shooters (where the prime goal is to kill) have a rating of AO? I'd bet that most don't....

puglover said:
I have to say, I'm glad to see them lose a fortune.
you might be wrong here. In Germany/Switzerland the game's been rated 18+ from the beginning, and it's selling like crazy. They might make a bit less money due to the new rating in the US, but I really doubt that they'll lose any money.
 
In most countries i think that this game was been given a 18+ rating to begin with. But the US has more grades of rating (in uk, it is either 15+ or 18+, so naturally it gets an 18, even if it is suitbale for 16 or 17yr olds)
And i like how people are wanting rockstar to refund everyone who brought the game. I dont see that happening, considering how many people brought the game, and how few have actuallt the abaility and knowledge to find and install the mod (i looked for it online today, and most of the PC version mods have been taken down by the author because of legal pressure i presume), and for Xbox and PS2 you need special hardware to connect your PC to console, so i doubt that many kids could actually have gotten hold of and used it.
 
puglover said:
I have to say, I'm glad to see them lose a fortune.
You know Take-Two is also publishing Civilzation and Pirates! now. It might not be such a good thing that they lose money.
 
vbraun said:
You know Take-Two is also publishing Civilzation and Pirates! now. It might not be such a good thing that they lose money.
Agreed, but I can't see them taking a big loss after such brisk sales and this newfound blitz of free advertising.

I love this:

Sen. Hilary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, applauded the change but said she was disturbed the sexual content appeared on store shelves in the first place.
That's funny - I'm disturbed that she's advocating spending $90 million+ of taxpayer money on a topic she's clearly clueless about. What "store shelf" did hot coffee appear on again? If the sexual content required hot coffee, how is her statement not a complete and blatant lie or at best an apparently purposeful misrepresentation?

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Rep. Joe Baca, D-Calif., said this week the video game industry needs a good dose of government oversight
What's up with all these democrats coming out against free artistic expression? Where's the ACLU when you need them? ;)
 
They are trying to get right wing voters who do not like bush's reign of terror IMO. Hopefully once the demiocrats get into power, they'll drop the right wing views like hilary's on GTA.
 
farting bob said:
They are trying to get right wing voters who do not like bush's reign of terror IMO. Hopefully once the demiocrats get into power, they'll drop the right wing views like hilary's on GTA.
Yeah you're right; it's just that it's tough enough to keep up with politicians' b.s. when they stay on their own side of the aisle. All this false posturing makes things too confusing... :crazyeye:
 
This is hilarious : in GTA, you play the bad boy. You kill people for money, for contract, for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, for fun, and sometimes for nothing at all.
You work for the worst crooks, bent cops, maffiosi, scums, thiefs and corrupted officials that there is on Earth.
You murder, you kill, you rampage.

All this is "mature".

But then, add a little pseudo-sex scene (with a man fully dressed and a girl barely half-naked), and BLAM, it becomes "adult only".

Really, puritanism woulr make me laugh if it wouldn't make me puke.

Edit : just out of curiosity, is this thing happening in UK or in US ?
 
Akka said:
Edit : just out of curiosity, is this thing happening in UK or in US ?

Primarily in the US, to my knowledge, although I wouldn't be shocked to find the same ridiculous double standards among politicians on either side of the Atlantic.
 
KaeptnOvi said:
so tell me, how many shooters (where the prime goal is to kill) have a rating of AO? I'd bet that most don't....

Those ratings are self-made by the gaming industry. They are not made by the government or an independent consumer group or anything like that. The gaming industry hires people to give input and then make a rating based on that input -- the "high council" that has the final decision is made up of people like executives of gaming companies. So using what games have the AO rating and what don't is utterly irrelevant since that is just a function of greedy economic interests of the gaming industry as opposed to a morals based response from society. Sex and violence are apples and oranges anyway and those who make silly arguments comparing the two and who have made "apples and oranges" rebuttals in the past ought to be 200% ashamed of themselves :)
 
What's the world coming to when there's hidden pornography in our childrens video games? Thank heavens that we have good honest folks like Hillary Clinton cleaning up this disgusting smut! Now I can shoot cops in the face, napalm they gay district of San Francisco, carjack and/or mow down innocent people, kill hookers and initiate a massive gang war in Los Angeles happily and without the fear of encountering this obviously evil and vile PORNOGRAPHY and its dark influence if I were to download this horrible file and made the decision to install it![/sarcasm]

P.S. Maddox rules. ;)
 
cierdan said:
Those ratings are self-made by the gaming industry. They are not made by the government or an independent consumer group or anything like that. The gaming industry hires people to give input and then make a rating based on that input -- the "high council" that has the final decision is made up of people like executives of gaming companies. So using what games have the AO rating and what don't is utterly irrelevant since that is just a function of greedy economic interests of the gaming industry as opposed to a morals based response from society. Sex and violence are apples and oranges anyway and those who make silly arguments comparing the two and who have made "apples and oranges" rebuttals in the past ought to be 200% ashamed of themselves :)
that may well be, but so far I've never heard any of those moralists cry out because Doom 3 is only rated Mature....yet if you add a silly sex-scene into a game it suddenly becomes very wrong. Sex BAAAAAAAAADDD ;) I'm not comparing sex to violence, I'm merely trying to compare the effect they have on 17yo guys. Do you really think that being exposed to sex has a detrimental effect on a 17yo's psyche?
 
Tank_Guy#3 said:
Hilary will burn in hell for a long time for this, not that it matters to me, I'm 18 :goodjob: .
Wow. You know, if there WAS a hell, pushing for a ban on filth would not be the way to get to it.

I fail to see the problem with cracking down on this crap. It is a direct assault on the symbols of peace and harmony that allow people to spend their time making it instead of hunting, gathering, and bashing the heads of any who try to steal what was hunted and gathered.

People who benefit from the existence of society have a moral obligation not to undermine it. When they fail, abandon, or betray that obligation, they should suffer.
 
plarq said:
While I'm a big GTA fan,personally I hate those sex scenes and excessive rendering of violence for non game-playing reasons.The current rating system cannot stop the popular favor in violence.

From Liberty City to Vice City and finally in San Andreas,violence,nudity and vulgar explode.I'm very sad to see the game sliding into a a mud of those things,and I have to play it obsessively for its numerous improvements in game-playing.Never got a chance to mod out sex and beheading and chainsawing(disgusting,IMO).
GTA 1 and I'm pretty sure 2 as well had loads of swearing and cursing and vulgar language. I also remember, though less explicitly and darkly so, the game was more violent.

I'm glad they brought it back, personally. The sex, however, is pretty pointless. But I'm going to echo the majority of this thread who think the whole fiasco is rediculous.

I'm going to reiterate Rockstar is making their own scandal out of this to raise the bar on passes through as acceptable. More violence equals more sales until children are completely banned. Maybe their hoping to have their next game extreme in violence without any sex, and this is how they're gonna pull it off. Who knows?
 
You can murder cops and prostitutes to your heart's content, but throw a bit of sex in there and all of a sudden it is Adults Only? What's wrong with this picture?
 
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