Hellenistic Times Scenario

[Kyriakos]

Do you mean my real name, or my nickname?
My name is Kyriakos, which actually means "of the Lord" (Lord= Kyrios in greek, it is the same word as 'Kyrie', which you may recongnise from the church). So Kyriakos=Lordian

"varwnos" just means 'baron'. I picked it a long time ago, when i felt baronic

 

[The Last Conformist]

Incidentally, kyriakos is the origin of English "church".

 

[Takhisis]

Kyriakos what?
Kyrie eleison... that´s familiar, the Catholic Church treated the Orthodox church as heretic but still sings in Greek.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Short for "lordly house", presumably.

 

[Kyriakos]

the ending -os just means "belonging to" or "being of". So a church could be called kyriake (although it would sound unussual). -os is a masculine ending, -e is feminine and the greek word for 'church', which is "ecclesia", is feminine.
However the greek word for "Sunday" (the day) is infact Kyriake. And it just means that it belongs to god.

 

[Takhisis]

MY name is "Andrés Mariano". It means -if I am right- a man of Mary (the Virgin).

 

[Kyriakos]

yes, andras=man, in greek

 

[Takhisis]

So, should I put only one elephant per frame for the War Elphants anims? Or is two side-by-side better? I think the latter is.
What is the name for "War Elephants" in Greek?

 

[Tathlum]

Id say one. It only took a few elephants in a battle to cause disruption. Only India used them in huge numbers. I cant remember a Hellenistic army with more than about 30. Larger numbers hurt more than they helped mostly.

 

[Kyriakos]

i am not sure if they were called something particular and different in ancient greek, but "polemikoi elephantes" is what they are called now. Polemos= war. The word itself is unchanged from ancient times.

 

[Takhisis]

Id say one. It only took a few elephants in a battle to cause disruption. Only India used them in huge numbers. I cant remember a Hellenistic army with more than about 30. Larger numbers hurt more than they helped mostly.

Well then, I´ll put one per frame only, unless I find a convincing unit animation?
btw why has DP II disappeared? I PMd him a week ago and he still doesn´t answer.

 

[Takhisis]

It only took a few elephants in a battle to cause disruption.

Nonetheless, whenever I play RoR with Cathage I make a lot (15-20) of Elephant Archers and send them onwards, protected by a wall of Armored Elephants (10). Any enemies encountered on the way are just showered with arrows to death.

 

[The Last Conformist]

@Takh: Are you intending to put all unit names in Greek? That would be pretty confusing to most people.

(Yeah, I know my scen has incredibly transparent unit-names such as Yajaw K'ak'. )

 

[Takhisis]

There are not that many units.
Besides, most unit names are related to those in English (hoplitai=hoplites; Heitaroi=well, it´s the same; Cataphractoi=Cataphracts; and so on), although there are a few (i.e prodromoi [light cavalry]) that are unwnown to those who aren´t Greek or like me, who am a little twerp who spends his time trying to find the roots of words
Also, nobody complains about the Latin in RFRE, even though "Bellatores Loricati" doesn´t suggest anything to those who haven´t asked pinktilapia about it.

 

[Takhisis]

Hi folks! I´ve just won MDK (again, I do it just to watch the video in the end), so I´m back. I wanna ask a few questions:

• Should I make the GWonders already built, or should I let anyone build them at anytime?
• What does K'uhul Kaanal Ajaw mean?
• Should I represent the different administrative methods of the time be represented with different buildings for each government?
• Is there any way to make some units available with only a certain government?

 

[LouLong]

a : guess that depends on whether they were already built or not
b : ??!!!???!!!
c : can you be more precise ? Do you mean like strategoi ? Or diagramma ?
d : AFAIK no. But you can create buildings-spawning improvements that only work with a certain type of government. Of course a civ could change government and keep the units it already built but that's a lesser evil.

About names in Greek, indeed RFRE uses that system and it seems to work OK. If you write the translation in the pedia I think it would do the job.

 

[The Last Conformist]

K'uhul Kaanal Ajaw is Maya for "Holy Snake Lord"; it was the title of the kings of Calakmul, whose kingdom was anciently known as Kaan, or "Snake".

My avatar is a kaan glyph, depicting a stylized snake head.

 

[Tathlum]

d. Yes. You can make buildings that can only built by one Government. Have that building produce the unit you want every x turns. If these are elite or powerfull units it will limit how many the civ has so you wont fight enemy armies made up only of Elephants or Spartan purebloods.

I think lou-long meat unit spawning improvements when he said buildings-spawning improvements.

 

[Takhisis]

a : guess that depends on whether they were already built or not
b : ??!!!???!!!
c : can you be more precise ? Do you mean like strategoi ? Or diagramma ?
d : AFAIK no. But you can create buildings-spawning improvements that only work with a certain type of government. Of course a civ could change government and keep the units it already built but that's a lesser evil.

About names in Greek, indeed RFRE uses that system and it seems to work OK. If you write the translation in the pedia I think it would do the job.

• The game starts in 280-270 B.C. and ends in 30 B.C.
• Thanks TLC!
• I mean the local defense sistems, levy gatherers, the governor´s office, etc.
• Then I´ll make the elite units (Spartan, Teban and Athenian Hoplites; etc.) built by special buildings.

 

[Kyriakos]

Do you really need to have theban hoplites? I do not think that Thebes was in existence at that age. It was destroyed by Phillip II (not of Spain ok, bad joke ) and probably the main city in the region was some other one, perhaps Neopatrai? (not sure)