here it is: Atlantis

Dionysius said:
a suggestion for the civ is on this thread.
i already had this made.
uses a lambda flag from Rhyes flagdecals.
Leader: Atlas [spiritual expansive]
UU:Atlantean Galley [+2 extra attack]
Flag:Lambda
Colour: Darkblue
enjoy, conspiracy theorists! ;)
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I keep getting XML errors when I try to load Atlantis :( . Keeps restarting the game. Are there any updates yet?
 
Umm what file do I put it in?
 
I did that and when I went to play as them not Atlantis Civ showed up just the Normal ones showed up
 
Dionysius said:
i figure atlantis was the minoan town on the island of Thira/Santorini
in the Aegean before it erupted, later knowledge of it survived mainly in
sailors stories, it was roimanticized until plato found it and finished the job.
agreed, thay whear very advanced for thear time * but nothing overly advanced like you hear in storys:crazyeye: *
if the minoans never fell, it chould have meent that a difrent culter whould have spreed around europe, greece ect. the minoans, not the greeces might have been the big power.
 
i was under the impresssoin that atlantis was eiter in greece or atlantic oceon
atlantic
evidence,it says some were that atlantis is benode the pillars of x which means the colloey england(gibrallter)
it was detoryed by a volcanoe (bigg ass plate buondery)
hence the name atlantic oceon

greece
it says that the land produced 3 colored rocks (black white red)

my opinoin is that its the modern day aroes islands because it fits the storyes perfect(even if the the storeys are inncorrect they might be based of fact) and its in the correct place.
 
turquoiseninja said:
Yeah, Ive heard that too, that Plato or something taught it too his students as a stupid moral lesson. If thats true I would be very dissapointed.:(

All stories to teach students, even when not completely true, were based on solid events. I seriously doubt Plato could have made up everything, and even if, it wouldn't be stupid, or it wouldn't have survived the ages.


Dionysius said:
i figure atlantis was the minoan town on the island of Thira/Santorini
in the Aegean before it erupted, later knowledge of it survived mainly in
sailors stories, it was roimanticized until plato found it and finished the job.

uhm... it couldn't be a minoan town from the description of it. First off, minoans didn't build walls.
 
Dionysius said:
i already had this made.
UU:Atlantean Galley [+2 extra attack]

In one of my first experimets modding Red Erik Viking Empire I reskinned the shields on the galleys (red, yellow and _blue_) to have different looking UU. It's not a big change, but if you like to add my .dss file to reskin your UU feel free to do it. Prewiew Link.
 
Atlantis was located in Iberia near the Atlantic coast. There are ruins of several ancient towns that were built in the same way as Plato describes Atlantis.
 
I think Atlantis is the Minoan civilization, that excisted on the island of Crete.

1) It was on an island and had quite a lot of overseas trade, and powerfull naval forces
2.)They were FAR more advanced than anyone one else in the medditeranean at the time. They had running water, 2 story buildings, and huge palaces while much of Europe still lived in caves. All the Greeks and Egyptians would have been amazed by the Minoans
3.) They traded extensively with Egypt. Didn't Plato's grandfather or something hear the story from the Egyptians?
4.) Minoan civilization was mostly destroyed by natrual causes. A volcaninc island (don't remember the name) exploded right to the North of Crete, covering much of the land in ash and everyone died. (Well not everyone, but yeah...the civilization was destroyed...)
 
This subject fasinates me.

I have heard of many different possiblities, Canary Islands, Yucatan, and of course the Minoan Civilization. I have also heard of a lost continent in the Indian Ocean called Meru (or something like that) which some like to compare to Atlantis. My belief is probably the most plausible explanation is the Minoan Civlization, where Atlantis was a religious Island in the Aegean (Santorini?) and Crete as the caplital. Obviously this goes contrary to Plato's "continent", but is probably the most plausible to date with our knowledge.

One thing to throw out though that I find very fascitating, is that scientists have determined that the North Pole has shifted 3-4 time in the past 80,000 years by up to 30 degrees. The North Pole has been supposedly located in the Yukon and the Greenland Sea are just a few of the examples. The further support this, is that it is a proven fact that Wooly Mammoths are frozen standing up in Siberia with prarie flowers and grass still in their stomachs. How ever they died, they died quick and it was catastrophic for them. If you move the globe at a 30 degree, Antartica would not be in the south pole but much closer to a temperate location. Now, as one person pointed out that it has been there for 8 million years, but that is relative to the rest of the continents. If the whole globe shifted or poles shifted, then it would be in the same place relative to the other continents, but not in the same location it is. They beleive the last one took place anywhere between 20,000 to 8,000 B.C. There are similiar stories and legends within all cultures around the world and if a civlization did possilby exist in Antartica, then obviously its remains would be completely wiped out by glaciers.

I do not know if this is true, but I do believe this does have some merit to look into. I do know that there are a lot of inconsistencies with what we do believe to be history. Certain examples include the great pyramids... Modern Egyptology places the great pyramids during the 2nd Dynasty. But here is what is confusing to me... the pyramids that are attributed to the 1st and 3rd Dynasties have pyramids that are collapsing but they all have beautiful hiroglyphics in them, where as the Great Pyramids, well I need not explain their structures, but what is odd, there are no hiroglypics. There are buildings in the Andes and the Yucatan peninsula that are made of very similar gigantic stones. The sphinx has weather wear from a time of heavy rains, prior to written history...

What I am getting at is, I would not be surprised if civilization is far older than what we attribute as the cradle of civilization in Mesopotamia. Why couldn't a or multiple civlizations exist prior to ancient history but were wiped out by catastrophes that we do not understand?

I could go on further, but I think this is long winded enough... you have sparked one of the topics I find very interesting...
 
i say alatin is minoa

besieds, its a lil strange that the egyptan word for alantis is the same word for creete... isint it
i saw that on a documentry, this prity much closes the case on alantis..

the minoans did have cirtys and setalments on creete. i cant rember what the egpytans called creete, but i do rember its the same name as what thay called alantis.
 
I downloaded it, but when I loaded it up, all of the leaderheads were gone.
 
Never mind, I think I fixed it.
 
No No NO.... YOU ALL GOT IT WRONG!!!

Atalntis is on the fault line right off the coast of Iceland. I Camefrom there. It's why I'm so Enhanced
 
Sweet, was thinking of doing a fictional atlantis, write a fictional history based on current myth and religions.
Heck I should still have a 3d max model of an atlantean women inspired by the looks of the disney movie somewhere to make leader image. But it's been ages since I've done 3D and animation, never really got to it yet.

My opinion on Atlantis.
It's one of the many variations in global flood myths.
Many religions have a concept of creation and destruction of mankind happening over and over, repeating history but always different, though some are limited to only 1 previous earth like the old testament.
I especially like the mayan, incan and olmec civilization which have an actual calendar which is practical (farming etc.) and includes the cyclical creation and destruction of a version of mankind. We are in the 5th cycle which ends, supposedly, around 2012 according to their calendar. Which, by the way, is more accurate then our modern one, let's hope their religion isn't lol.
To me atlantis was in the old world before the great flood that destroyed mankind. All in all reading different religious texts, studying the aztec/mayan calendar (the thing fascinates me, can't help it). The best place for me to put something called Atlantis (culture, country, city, other (pre flood) word for human or mankind.) is in the previous (4th) cycle in the calendar, The last cycle was destroyed by flood according to the calendar, so that fits, so do the many religions that have a myth about the old being flooded and destroyed and the new starting after.

Getting carried away, won't bore you with the details, My interest is the calendar, Atlantis just seems to fit flood mythology to me. Especially combined with certain ancient indian texts and the cyclical understanding of time in the calendar. (which is surprisingly better then ours, maybe not correct but since we discovered time is anything but linear and unidirectional or real for that matter (seriously!). A straight line, one way road, is the furthest from reality possible.)

About plato, he learned the story from others in egypt. He might have made it into a moral story for education but he didn't make it up/suck it out of his thumb.
 
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