High level AI wonder production bonus

[shyuhe]

Does the AI get any? I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the high level AI does not get any production bonus on wonders (although it still gets its bonuses for other buildings). I'd appreciate it if somebody could clarify this (either via code or world-builder test).

edit: The BTS reference sheet says that "Wonders never less than X1.00". Does that mean that if the AI cost is 0.6 (deity), wonder production cost remains 1.00 (same as human cost)?

 

[Refar]

From the Handicap file its like you say. Wonders allways cost the AI at least 100% (More on levels below Noble.)

 

[Tatran]

Being in a permanent alliance, I noticed my ally was building a wonder at 15% discount (Emperor level).

 

[shyuhe]

Do you have a screenshot of this Tatran? It seems to conflict with the XML information from the BTS reference sheet... I will test this later myself to confirm.

 

[Tatran]

I doubt I can make a screenshot of the situation.
The game has finished and actually I didn't bother with it.
It looked not weird to me. The AI gets discounts on higher levels.

I saw it more by surprise, because we missed Broadway with 1 turn to go.
My ally was building it and no one had Electricity a few turns back.

Catherine was building Rock 'n' roll too and she only needed 1020 hammers, while I needed 1200 hammers.

 

[Bureaucracy]

That is not proof. The AI could have used gold or a GE to rush it, even a golden-age is possible. And maybe they switched to OR after you last checked.

The manual throws people off because it says there is no wonder bonus on deity. So they think there is no speed difference, but that is not true. The AI has penalties on wonders at other levels, so in fact this makes it faster on deity, even though *by definition* it has no bonus there.

Hope that makes it clear.

 

[shyuhe]

Hmm... I was under the impression that the human does not suffer a production penalty at the higher levels. Rather, the AI gets hammer discounts on the buildings.

@Bureaucracy:
So wonders cost the same number of hammers for the AI between prince and deity?

 

[PimpyMicPimp]

I thought higher up the AI just gets a base hammer bonus, like +10 hammers a city or something. I read something along those lines awhile ago.

 

[Refar]

The bonus allways comes in the form of Stuff beeing cheaper by some % (or in case of research the AI stay at 100% while the human gets more expensive)

15% is consistant with the AI disconunt for buildings on Emperor. However it should only apply to buildings, as there is a separate 'price'-tag for wonders.

<iAIConstructPercent>85</iAIConstructPercent>
<iAIWorldConstructPercent>100</iAIWorldConstructPercent>

 

[Unconquered Sun]

AIs get wonder discount on higher levels. It's less than the ones for buildings and units and it might be time-progressive, starting from as low as zero at 4000 BC (haven't bothered to check). Here's a BtS immortal pic.

 

[Refar]

Intereting... 96%... The strange number could indeed be the result of some time-dependant formula.

That's for sure not in the Handicap file...
[edit] Or maybe it is... What does AIPerEraModifier do ? It's -4 on immortal... Assuming Classical era... Could give 96% cost of everything...