Alex Encandar
Chieftain
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Seer council is one of the noticeable one but there are a few others. Any idea why?
Hmm...why do Calabim not get certain buildings?
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Kael
Deity
They dont get the Elder Council. From a functional side they don't get it as a balance to some of the other cool stuff they get. From a Flavor side they don't get it because no one lives long enough to be an elder.
QES
Court Jester
What about a late game replacement? For the "elder vampires".
Surely there are vampries who've lived for eons, and have collected vast libraries and studied countless things - feeding on bloodpets to further their exapansive knowledge and gain them the time they need to understand "it all."
Maybe give them a personalized national wonder - in which the vernerable vampires garner respect from other vampires and are given a place in a city from which they might look down upon the world from their ivory towers and contemplate the meaning of undeath.
Granted. They're not undead in this world - but in my mind they still are.
-Qes
Kael
Deity
What about a late game replacement? For the "elder vampires".
Surely there are vampries who've lived for eons, and have collected vast libraries and studied countless things - feeding on bloodpets to further their exapansive knowledge and gain them the time they need to understand "it all."
Maybe give them a personalized national wonder - in which the vernerable vampires garner respect from other vampires and are given a place in a city from which they might look down upon the world from their ivory towers and contemplate the meaning of undeath.
Granted. They're not undead in this world - but in my mind they still are.
-Qes
Do you think there is a functional need for this? Do you think this building would make the game more fun?
Love
Deity
Yeah.........I think....
maybe not-if the breeding pits gave +1 scientist slot
QES
Court Jester
Honestly no. And I know that's a requirement for any new implementation. My solution was to aquiesse those whom may feel there should be compensation.
My answer was merely an attempt to fill a flavor gap for whatever question was had. Its a solution - but truly I dont see a problem with a lack of elder councils for the Calabim.
I mean - people love national wonders and the like, so in that in and of itself it could be fun. But I dont see it as filling any dire or even important need.
-Qes
Rod
King
Hello,
just a question that is heading in the other way .. do we already have too many buildings ??
Do we really need granary+smokehouse ?
Do we really need training ground, archer's ground, siege workshop and what all?
Moneylender+ what was the second building to give 25 % to commerce ?
Harbour + Lighthouse ...
herbalist, infirmary and several national wonders addressing health and healing ratio ..
you name it ..
In fact I discovered for me that it is far more fun to play the 'uncivilized' Civs as they simply have less to build.
just a question that is heading in the other way .. do we already have too many buildings ??
Do we really need granary+smokehouse ?
Do we really need training ground, archer's ground, siege workshop and what all?
Moneylender+ what was the second building to give 25 % to commerce ?
Harbour + Lighthouse ...
herbalist, infirmary and several national wonders addressing health and healing ratio ..
you name it ..
In fact I discovered for me that it is far more fun to play the 'uncivilized' Civs as they simply have less to build.
Bad Player
Deity
They already ARE overpowered as it is
From my limited multiplayer experience not many people play the Calabim and I don't think I've ever seen the Calabim get into a winning position in mulitplayer. I think they have great flavour (vampires!) so I doubt that is the reason they aren't played much multiplayer.
A function need, probably not. I do think this might make the game more fun, though. My idea is a bit more ambitious, though. I'm thinking every civ could have a specific national wonder (similar to the civ's hero) that only they could build. This could even be used as a form of balance, by having it be designed to come into play earlier or later depending on when the civ's hero can come into play. For example, the Kuriorates could have their (rather weak) wonder be unlocked by an early tech, because they have such a late game hero. The Clan, on the other hand could have a (powerful) late game wonder to balance their hero becoming obsolete.
I'm sorry if I'm repeating an old idea that's been discarded, and right before Fire comes out to boot. If this is implemented, I would be glad to help in any way I can, which is not very much, with my lack of modding, balancing, programming, or pretty much any kind of experience necessary other than proposing ideas and bouncing them off someone who knows what their doing until I hit on an idea that is balanced.
Kael
Deity
We have talked about this before, and the idea does have its merits. The reason we discarderd it is that if the wonder is really cool why not allow any player to build it? And if it isnt cool, why are we adding it in the first place?
The really cool wonder, should be given to the "weaker"/"least popular"
civ, and the uncool, but slight useful wonder to "powerful"/more popular"
civ.
Ex. perhaps one of the races with the negative science trait could get a version of the great library, while one of the races that does not have seige weapons could get a late game defencs only one.
This is an idea to be kicked around a bit, maybe to come out in the next version.
Or not?
civ, and the uncool, but slight useful wonder to "powerful"/more popular"
civ.
Ex. perhaps one of the races with the negative science trait could get a version of the great library, while one of the races that does not have seige weapons could get a late game defencs only one.
This is an idea to be kicked around a bit, maybe to come out in the next version.
Or not?
BCalchet
Human, all too human.
Hmh, the idea caught my attention and forced me to write up a whole bunch of more or less useless ideas, so... here they are.
Spoiler :
+2 GPP (Great Bard))
Love
Deity
Very good work
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
Really Good! i'd be dissapointed if this wasn't implemented eventually... doesn't have to be soon, what with the work i presume is being done on fire right now...
I like your ideas but I think something else would be good for the Luchuirp because I know when I play as them I often have the Runes holy city. What I was thinking maybe another hero that was like the camps in the Genghis Khan scenario that spawn golems based on terrain. This would have very low strength and is capable of being captured. It would be capable of being built with golem mastery. This may be overpowered but it was something I thought up because I'd like a Luchuirp hero that's usable in the late game. That's just my 2-cents on Lurchuirp.
loki1232
Loki
Also a one civ only wonder means that there is no hurry to build it.
Gamestation
Introducing Servo
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I'm not too sure about that. I mean if you were Luchuirp you would rush to build Barnaxus and even though only the Luchuirp could build Barnaxus. People might decide to rush to build their civ specific wonder if it could provide a good benefit to help them survive.
